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Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:34 AM

BREAKING : Cohen is preparing to flip

Per ABC report


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Reply BREAKING : Cohen is preparing to flip (Original post)
BritVic Jun 13 OP
greyl Jun 13 #1
Cha Jun 14 #62
Botany Jun 13 #2
lagomorph777 Jun 13 #15
noncliqer Jun 13 #3
TimeSnowDemos Jun 13 #4
shockey80 Jun 13 #5
regnaD kciN Jun 14 #56
BSdetect Jun 13 #6
luvtheGWN Jun 13 #12
Demsrule86 Jun 13 #16
womanofthehills Jun 13 #7
ollie10 Jun 13 #14
Lee-Lee Jun 13 #8
catbyte Jun 13 #28
Hassin Bin Sober Jun 13 #36
vercetti2021 Jun 13 #9
IronLionZion Jun 13 #10
DesertRat Jun 13 #11
Enoki33 Jun 13 #13
sandensea Jun 13 #17
kentuck Jun 13 #18
H2O Man Jun 13 #27
kentuck Jun 13 #30
H2O Man Jun 13 #43
kentuck Jun 13 #46
H2O Man Jun 13 #47
WheelWalker Jun 14 #54
regnaD kciN Jun 14 #57
LakeArenal Jun 13 #19
C Moon Jun 13 #20
Dopers_Greed Jun 13 #21
Achilleaze Jun 13 #22
Ferrets are Cool Jun 13 #23
Cryptoad Jun 13 #24
2golddogs Jun 13 #25
Rhiannon12866 Jun 14 #48
2golddogs Jun 14 #58
Rhiannon12866 Jun 14 #60
Initech Jun 13 #26
Adrahil Jun 13 #29
groundloop Jun 13 #32
FakeNoose Jun 13 #34
marlakay Jun 13 #31
Leghorn21 Jun 13 #33
calimary Jun 13 #35
BritVic Jun 13 #42
Gothmog Jun 13 #37
duforsure Jun 13 #38
BlueJac Jun 13 #39
The Wizard Jun 13 #40
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 13 #41
briv1016 Jun 13 #44
Gothmog Jun 13 #45
JI7 Jun 14 #50
Awsi Dooger Jun 14 #49
Quixote1818 Jun 14 #53
Iliyah Jun 14 #51
InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 14 #52
regnaD kciN Jun 14 #55
ryan_cats Jun 14 #59
VOX Jun 14 #61
MariaCSR Jun 14 #63

Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:35 AM

1. Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case, sources say

As attorneys for Michael Cohen rush to meet Judge Kimba Woodís Friday deadline to complete a privilege review of over 3.7 million documents seized in the April 9 raids of Cohenís New York properties and law office, a source representing this matter has disclosed to ABC News that the law firm handling the case for Cohen is not expected to represent him going forward.

To date, Cohen has been represented by Stephen Ryan and Todd Harrison of the Washington and New York firm, McDermott, Will & Emery LLP.

No replacement counsel has been identified as of this time.

Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in New York, sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard.


https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-cooperate-attorneys-leave-case/story?id=55861988

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Response to greyl (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:37 AM

62. "Cohen, now with no legal representation, is likely to cooperate with federal prosecutors in NY..

..sources said. This development, which is believed to be imminent, will likely hit the White House, family members, staffers and counsels hard."

I hope this actually happens!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:36 AM

2. Oh please be true

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Response to Botany (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:29 AM

15. Doin' my Happy Dance too!

...and getting some funny looks from co-workers.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:49 AM

3. The author of the ABC report is just some bozo

 

named GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS!!!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:55 AM

4. Holy $@*

 

That's exciting... if true.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:57 AM

5. If true, game over for Trump.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #5)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:53 AM

56. Why...?

The only way it will be "game over" for Trump is if Congress moves to impeach. Yeah, right. Isn't it obvious by now that they loves themselves some Donnie, and he literally could take out a gun and murder someone on Park Avenue, and the most they would do would be to say they're "deeply troubled?"

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:59 AM

6. Amazing that he has held out for so long given what must be really overwhelming evidenc

Last edited Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:29 AM - Edit history (1)

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #6)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:23 AM

12. If I were Cohen, I'd demand protective custody.

Otherwise, bye bye Michael -- accidentally on purpose.

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Response to luvtheGWN (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:30 AM

16. Cohen may be the one that carried the payment for hacking Hillary to the Hackers..we know he lied

Europe and if this is the case, I really believe Trump is gone.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:59 AM

7. Cohen could provide info on.........


Sarah Kendzior
‏Verified account @sarahkendzior
8m8 minutes ago

Cohen as cooperating witness could provide info on:
* Trump Org finances
* use of threats, blackmail, bribes
* Russian mafia (and other mafias)
* RNC and its finances
* Manafort and other Trump hires esp those involved with Russia/Ukraine
* numerous oligarchs
* NYC enablers

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Response to womanofthehills (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:28 AM

14. I think Cohen might know about some money laundering.....

 

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:00 AM

8. He must have lost faith in that pardon....

I guess in this negotiation he went with a real master of making deals...

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Response to Lee-Lee (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:35 PM

28. Either that or there are unpardonable state charges that could put him in prison for years

that he's trying to mitigate.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:02 PM

36. Not unless New York hurries up and changes their goofy double Jeopardy law.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:01 AM

9. God please be true

If so, that'll end this whole NK PR stunt and hopefully bring tRump down to his knees.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:12 AM

10. George Stephanopoulos is not known for fake news

Former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen likely to cooperate as his attorneys leave case, sources say
https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-cooperate-attorneys-leave-case/story?id=55861988

This is likely to be real

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:13 AM

11. k&r

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:23 AM

13. The tRump crime family are likely in an extreme tizzy-fit right now.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:32 AM

17. Like a pancake!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:34 AM

18. His strategy may be to make a deal on the state charges....

...and hope for a pardon on any Federal charges?

He would serve minimal time if he helps the New York investigators?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #18)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:25 PM

27. That's not an option.

To best protect his own interests, Cohen has to cooperate fully with both the SDNY and Team Mueller. He doesn't have any other option at this point.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #27)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:41 PM

30. Thanks!

Can he not make a deal with NY prosecutors ?

Why would he flip if he could not get a deal ?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #30)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 03:28 PM

43. The NY Attorney General's

office coordinates on this with the Southern District (federal) prosecutors. Cohen has to make a deal with the federal prosecutors (and they will coordinate with Mr. Mueller). That's where Cohen can make a deal, and NYS would go along with it. But he cannot hope to deal separately with the state for a deal at this point. It's way beyond that.

The lawyers he had retained found that there was extremely scant material that qualifies as "attorney-client." Cohen's relationship with them has soured, which tends to happen when one lies like hell to their legal team. So Friday will be a bad day in court for him. Thus, those paying for his defense are left scrambling .....it will be difficult to find good representation, and even if they can, the only "good" option for him is to flip. And, in the position Cohen finds himself, that isn't very pleasant!

Look for Trump and Hannity to turn on Cohen next week.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:09 PM

46. So, he's pretty much up the creek without a paddle?

They know how to handle the Mafia guys in the SDNY.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #46)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:37 PM

47. He's totally fucked.

He's caught in a triangle. One side is in itself three parts: Mueller, SDNY, and NYSAG. Now, as you know, Trump can't pardon him for state charges. The NYSAG's office can't duplicate charges that federal prosecutors charge -- even if Trump pardons him for those. So they have coordinated with SDNY and Mr. Mueller, and divided the upcoming charges. Even if he is "only" convicted on the state charges, he will be incarcerated in state prison for decades. And that's not a safe place for him.

The second side is the Russian mafia. These gentlemen tend to resent anyone who puts them at risk. This includes many who inhabit NYS. And they have associates within the state and federal prisons. Thus, no matter if he is in prison, or out, he knows his safety is at risk.

The third side is the domestic mob, particularly those in real estate and construction. He was connected to them for longer than he was the Russians. He met them through Trump, not only from real estate and construction, but from Trump's having promoted boxing in Atlantic City with Don King in past decades. These fellows frown upon those who turn on them to save their own skin. And they, too, have associates within the state and federal prison systems.

He is totally fucked.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #47)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:59 AM

54. Totally. He's caught in a cross ruff.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #47)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:57 AM

57. Sounds like he'd be better off in prison than out of it...

Even if he cuts a deal and walks away without jail time, how long do you think he'll last with the U.S. and Russian mobs gunning for him?

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:46 AM

19. 🤞🏻🙏🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻🤞🏻🙏🏻

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:57 AM

20. Giuliani will volunteer to be his attorney. :D

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:57 AM

21. Can't wait for the Twitter tantrum

Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:59 AM

22. Dirty Donny* depositing doo-doo in his deplorable republican diapers

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:07 PM

23. Put extra guards on him. And provide him a food taster. nt

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:09 PM

24. None the Main Trumpsters will flip,,,,,,

why should they, none will be found guilty by a jury of their peers just like trying a police officer for shooting somebody in the back,,,In any 12 people there will be at least one trumpster who will hang up the jury no matter what!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:10 PM

25. Very Good Day

This is very exciting news, enough to make me see a crack of daylight. Iíve been lurking here a very long time and all of you have a hand in helping me survive these long, long months. Thank you, each and every one of you.

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Response to 2golddogs (Reply #25)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:19 AM

48. Welcome to DU, 2golddogs!

It's great to have you with us!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #48)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:25 AM

58. :)

Thank you, Rhiannon

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Response to 2golddogs (Reply #58)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:34 AM

60. I completely identify, DU has gotten me through some tough times over the years

DU is the best place to keep up with news and I've learned so much here, it's also the most informed site on the internets! So glad that you found us!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:11 PM

26. Who wants some butter? I got plenty!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:40 PM

29. I've heard a couple experts....

Speculate that Cohen is floating this in hopes of triggering some kind of intervention from Trump.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #29)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:44 PM

32. Yes, Cohen has been a mob lawyer for so long I can't see him flipping

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Response to groundloop (Reply #32)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:58 PM

34. "I'd take a bullet for Mr. Trump" - what lawyer ever says that?

Answer: mob lawyers, that's who



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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:43 PM

31. I think its likely he will get a continuance

because of getting new lawyers up to speed. I have been watching this local murder case and thinking it would finally go to court then her expensive lawyer dropped her because she couldn't afford to pay anymore and she got extra time and dates moved way up.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:53 PM

33. Per Kyle Griffin tweets, WSJ and AP confirming Cohen shopping for new lawyer(s):

WSJ confirms parts of the ABC News report: The attorneys for Michael Cohen are expected to stop representing him, according to a person familiar with the matter.<br><br>Cohen is searching for a federal criminal lawyer in New York. <a href="https://t.co/xuiRqz8QE8">https://t.co/xuiRqz8QE8</a></p>ó Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

The AP now confirms that Michael Cohen is searching for a new legal team.<br><br>A person familiar with the matter told the AP that Cohen's current legal team plans to stop handling the case. <a href="https://t.co/E9LSch1WQ5">https://t.co/E9LSch1WQ5</a></p>ó Kyle Griffin (@kylegriffin1) <a href="
?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">June 13, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Hey

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:59 PM

35. Welcome to DU, BritVic!

Just gets more and more interesting. I would LOVE to see this come true. Wonder if Cohen is watching the screws tighten on Manafort and starting to get a little bit shaky about his own situation?

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Response to calimary (Reply #35)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:58 PM

42. Thank you !

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:13 PM

37. Cohen is running out of money to pay legal fees

In order to review all of the documents seized for privilege issues, I heard that Cohen's law firm had 10 to 20 attorneys working full time just on this one project. At New York rates, this would add up to $50,000 to $100,000 per day. I suspect that Cohen is running out of funds necessary to review all of the documents seized by the FBI and so is having to get new attorneys


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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:15 PM

38. Maybe his quote has changed...

From "I would take a bullet for trump", to "I will be getting a bullet from trump" . I see another witless protection program candidate here now.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:34 PM

39. Don't hold your breath!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:37 PM

40. The Bagman

has the keys to the vault.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:18 PM

41. The dotard is probably soiling his Depends right now.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 04:11 PM

44. He's not going to flip. He has a wife and 2 kids.

I doubt he wants to see them murdered.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:14 PM

45. Lawyers fired Cohen as a client due to unpaid legal fees

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Response to Gothmog (Reply #45)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:43 AM

50. and wasn't the Trump Campaign paying for These LEgal Fees ? so they must have stopped

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:42 AM

49. This seems like the most favorable and unlikely interpretation

That's why I'm not buying it. Happy Adjusters fall for crap like this.

Trump surrounds himself with fellow crooks and liars. They won't cave. It's likely a rather meaningless transition between one scheme and the next.

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Response to Awsi Dooger (Reply #49)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:54 AM

53. These types are the first to cave. They only look out for themselves and they don't want

even a minute in jail.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:49 AM

51. Already a done deal.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 12:50 AM

52. Woooo-fuckin-hooooo!!!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 01:49 AM

55. I see it's "Fitzmas in June"...

Frankly, I'll believe it when I see it.

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Response to regnaD kciN (Reply #55)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:31 AM

59. YES!

YES!
We need a like button for posts!

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 06:36 AM

61. I don't see Cohen flipping as easily as I envision him poised to be the fall-guy.

Guess it all depends where Muller inserts #45 into the various overlapping timelines and international involvements.

Sorry I'm not more chipper. This week has ground me down into a mild depression.

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Response to BritVic (Original post)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:35 AM

63. So he's not flipping. :(

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