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Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:02 AM

Trump is now backed into a corner he cant get out of

Trump gave the store away and is now trapped in a corner he cannot get out off.

He has said "NK no longer a nuclear threat"

Kim has now said, "Trump promised to lift sanctions"

Trump said he's stop the "wargames"

Nobody knows what was in that conversation.

Kim can now say and ask for whatever he likes, ask for whatever he wants because Trump needs this or he looks like a massive tool.

North Korean state media is saying that Trump explicitly agreed to lift sanctions on NK and halt "war games" (joint military exercises with South Korea) — and that North Korea doesn't have to move toward denuclearizing **until the US does**

If Trump says NO, Kim can say, you reneged on the deal and stuffs him.

We all knew this was going to happen but Captain Blunder had to blow his ego.


TRUMP YOU ARE FUCKED.....

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Reply Trump is now backed into a corner he cant get out of (Original post)
sunonmars Jun 2018 OP
DetlefK Jun 2018 #1
sunonmars Jun 2018 #6
Pluvious Jun 2018 #42
exboyfil Jun 2018 #2
sunonmars Jun 2018 #4
Maraya1969 Jun 2018 #45
DetlefK Jun 2018 #17
FakeNoose Jun 2018 #24
atreides1 Jun 2018 #28
FakeNoose Jun 2018 #32
47of74 Jun 2018 #37
CrispyQ Jun 2018 #51
keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #31
lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #36
global1 Jun 2018 #3
Fred Sanders Jun 2018 #18
FakeNoose Jun 2018 #25
B2G Jun 2018 #5
shanny Jun 2018 #7
B2G Jun 2018 #9
shanny Jun 2018 #11
BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #33
keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #34
olegramps Jun 2018 #22
lagomorph777 Jun 2018 #38
oberliner Jun 2018 #8
Purple Mountain Maje Jun 2018 #12
Danascot Jun 2018 #14
BlueJac Jun 2018 #16
FSogol Jun 2018 #10
kag Jun 2018 #20
pangaia Jun 2018 #13
BlueJac Jun 2018 #15
dembotoz Jun 2018 #19
duforsure Jun 2018 #21
Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #23
bucolic_frolic Jun 2018 #26
Moostache Jun 2018 #27
TNLib Jun 2018 #29
First Speaker Jun 2018 #30
OldHippieChick Jun 2018 #35
Texin Jun 2018 #39
C Moon Jun 2018 #40
woundedkarma Jun 2018 #41
smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #43
maryellen99 Jun 2018 #47
dalton99a Jun 2018 #44
0rganism Jun 2018 #46
Orsino Jun 2018 #48
Baconator Jun 2018 #49
OnDoutside Jun 2018 #50
vi5 Jun 2018 #52
duforsure Jun 2018 #53

Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:10 AM

1. The master negotiator didn't put the contract in writing.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:36 AM

6. Wrote checks his mouth/tweets can't cash.

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Response to DetlefK (Reply #1)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:13 PM

42. "There wasn't enough time!" nt.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:14 AM

2. Kim has a limitation of how far he can push this

He cannot damage Trump as a useful tool for Putin (I think). He is just as unstable as our President so who knows.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:19 AM

4. Lets be honest NK were never going to give their only leverage....nukes.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #4)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:26 PM

45. Their nukes are the only reason the US president gave them legitimacy.

They know that. Obviously they won't give them up.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:19 AM

17. Kim doesn't care about damaging or not damaging Trump.

Kim wants to stay in power. Indefinitely. Anything else is secondary.

In order to stay in power, Kim must keep NK isolated. And so he will keep talking and negotiating and backtracking and threatening and hinting and declaring... and as the decades go by, nothing changes. Which is what Kim wanted all along.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:41 AM

24. I think Kim is taking orders (suggestions) from China

... while Cheeto listens only to Putin. This is an international chess game and the pawns are being played.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:06 AM

28. Probably

While the Chinese and the Russians talk to each other!


China wants influence over Asia and the Pacific, Russia wants to regain its influence over Europe and the Middle East!


Trumps ego makes him easy to manipulate, the Republicans in Congress won't do anything because they're afraid, Trump effectively has control of two of the three branches of the government...the Republicans are working to give him control over the third!

The white deplorable's will keep supporting Trump in hopes of remaining the "master race" here in the US...and I believe they are more then willing to commit genocide against every group of Americans who don't support Trump!!!

Those "tokens" who support Trump, imagine Samuel L. Jackson's character in Django Unchained, or Uncle Ruckus of Boondocks...they'll help in the genocide, too!!!

Just my view...

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:19 AM

32. Agreed - we Dems have to stop this

... the Republican pod people won't do a thing. Well, we already know they're in on it.

The master race idea has to die. If there ever was a master race, it's quite obvious we're not it.


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Response to atreides1 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:32 AM

37. If these deplorables think I'm going to lie down and die at their command...

...they're in for a rather unpleasant surprise.

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Response to atreides1 (Reply #28)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:33 PM

51. Ditto this:

"I believe they are more then willing to commit genocide against every group of Americans who don't support Trump!!!"

Forty years of hate radio & it's evil spawn Fox news, & there is a large segment of the population who hate liberals more than Satan. The Jones/Moore race shouldn't have even been close! I think there's a lot of overconfidence about a blue wave this fall, considering there hasn't been much done about our compromised electoral process. And compromised in so many ways, it's stunning. Kind of makes you wonder what the opposition party has been doing, that it got this bad, huh?

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #24)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:18 AM

31. OUCH!

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #2)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:32 AM

36. They're both working for Putin; reading from the same script.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:14 AM

3. The Media Needs To Portray Trump As An Inept Con Artist.....

They constantly point to his 'business acumen' yet he's not been a very successful businessman - with all his bankruptcies and failed and fake products (think Trump University). He keeps touting himself as keeping his campaign promises - but it seems that everyone of these promises he touches - he screws up. Case in point - this NK summit and the position he is now faced with. We can go down the line and see how he's screwed up the Wall, DACA, ACA, tariffs, etc.

His followers like him because he's a contrarian and his business background and the press keeps pointing this out which further solidifies his base. Not much emphasis is put on his ineptness in all things that he touches.

If Trump didn't have the backing of the Repug Party - which I think is holding him together - some of his faithful followers being shown how inept Trump is in everything he touches - might start falling away from him.

This is just my opinion.

The MSM is playing over and over - I guess in an attempt to brainwash us - his handshake with Un. If his followers watch Fox or just catch the clips of the handshake - they see him as a 'god'. The MSM along with calling attention to each one of Trump's crazy tweets - just worsens the situation.

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Response to global1 (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:27 AM

18. Corporate media failures are legion and intentional, no way they would dare to mention

how Shitler gave away the farm for a magic bean.

Remember The Dixie Chicks and how corporate media treated them and anyone daring not to tow the corporate propaganda line...enemy of the people.

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Response to global1 (Reply #3)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:44 AM

25. His resume is one failure after another



His TV show was a success, but no thanks to him. Some really good producers worked overtime to make Cheeto look like he knew what he was doing.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:28 AM

5. Except this is what they both officially signed:

 

"Joint Statement of President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea at the Singapore Summit

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea (DPRK) held a first, historic summit in Singapore on June 12, 2018.

President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un conducted a comprehensive, in-depth, and sincere exchange of opinions on the issues related to the establishment of new U.S.–DPRK relations and the building of a lasting and robust peace regime on the Korean Peninsula. President Trump committed to provide security guarantees to the DPRK, and Chairman Kim Jong Un reaffirmed his firm and unwavering commitment to complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.

Convinced that the establishment of new U.S.–DPRK relations will contribute to the peace and prosperity of the Korean Peninsula and of the world, and recognizing that mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un state the following:
1.The United States and the DPRK commit to establish new U.S.–DPRK relations in accordance with the desire of the peoples of the two countries for peace and prosperity.
2.The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime on the Korean Peninsula.
3.Reaffirming the April 27, 2018 Panmunjom Declaration, the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.
4.The United States and the DPRK commit to recovering POW/MIA remains, including the immediate repatriation of those already identified.

Having acknowledged that the U.S.–DPRK summit—the first in history—was an epochal event of great significance in overcoming decades of tensions and hostilities between the two countries and for the opening up of a new future, President Trump and Chairman Kim Jong Un commit to implement the stipulations in this joint statement fully and expeditiously. The United States and the DPRK commit to hold follow-on negotiations, led by the U.S. Secretary of State, Mike Pompeo, and a relevant high-level DPRK official, at the earliest possible date, to implement the outcomes of the U.S.–DPRK summit.

President Donald J. Trump of the United States of America and Chairman Kim Jong Un of the State Affairs Commission of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea have committed to cooperate for the development of new U.S.–DPRK relations and for the promotion of peace, prosperity, and security of the Korean Peninsula and of the world."

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/north-korea-summit-agreement-trump-kim-jong-un-signed-meeting-singapore-today-2018-06-12/

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Response to B2G (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:43 AM

7. "...the DPRK commits to work toward complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula."

means exactly nothing. Translation for clarity: "aspiring to think about considering beginning planning to work toward maybe kinda sorta denuclearizing or something ....

#4 is something that was promised already, and all the rest is fluff.

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Response to shanny (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:45 AM

9. Yep, means nothing.

 

As do the blatherings of Trump and NK.

Either side can say whatever they think will make them look good respectively. Point being nothing outlined in the OP was in fact agreed to or is binding. It's just a lot of sound and fury.

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Response to B2G (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:50 AM

11. +1

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Response to B2G (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:21 AM

33. "It's just a lot of sound and fury."

But the setting provided massive propaganda material for NK that makes the U.S. look like a bunch of losers - especially considering that in the "business world" that Drumpf comes from, "private agreements" ("oral contracts" ) are considered to hold weight.

In fact, it's interesting that I recall reading an article yesterday that mentioned that Drumpf claimed to have "taken no notes". But I bet Kim Jong-Un (and/or his translator) did.

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Response to shanny (Reply #7)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:22 AM

34. Endeavor to persevere

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Response to B2G (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:39 AM

22. 2.The United States and the DPRK will join their efforts to build a lasting and stable peace regime

There exists a stable and peaceful regime in Korea. It is called South Korea. We have a brutal murderous dictatorship whose leader even murdered his own half-brother along with of hundreds and imprisoned thousands, kidnaped people, brutalized foreigners on trumped up charges of espionage. Its call North Korea. Its the communists dream to have their fellow South Korean's united in enjoying their glorious state despair. Trump is repulsive.

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Response to B2G (Reply #5)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:34 AM

38. Both signatures are completely worthless and always have been.

It's just a big glitzy show; both of them need a distraction from their crimes and the consequences.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:44 AM

8. Also, there was probably a Trump Tower Pyongyang deal

Breaking ground in a few years?

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Response to oberliner (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:53 AM

12. No. Trump sold his brand to Kim

 

For this POS

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Response to Purple Mountain Maje (Reply #12)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:11 AM

14. Poorly disguised nuclear missle.

nt

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Response to oberliner (Reply #8)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:13 AM

16. I don't doubt that one minute...

the art of the CROOK!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 09:48 AM

10. You assume he has any awareness or concern about that. He only sees the pr win. He doesn't care

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about results, only the publicity. He considers it a done deal and has already moved on.

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Response to FSogol (Reply #10)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:27 AM

20. Right.

For him, being "Prezudint" is just a TV show. Only thing that matters is what happens when the cameras are trained on his ugly mug, and the little red light is on. Anything of substance is left for us "peons" to figure out for ourselves.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:01 AM

13. TRUMO isn;t fucked. WE are fucked.


Oh, sunomars, BTW it should be -
Trump gave the store away and is now trapped in a corner out of which he can not get.



Sorry, I am so pissed I have to go after somebody... and sometimes I can be a smart ass know it all..
Even though I k now almost nuttin'

Otherwise, great post...



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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:11 AM

15. Yes, we are fucked ...

and have been since the election, with lots more fucking to take place!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:27 AM

19. trump the real estate thug thinks he can renegociate any deal as it suits him

from stiffing subcontractors to now pulling out of iran deal and NAFTA

his word is only as certain as what he said today....

once a thug always a thug.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:32 AM

21. He's been exposed

As being a serial liar and con man, like with their made up lies saying the meeting was cancelled , and this now is no different, who trump openly admits making stuff up for excuses and self promotion regularly, and this is the same all over again. We are not safer from Kim, and trumps spinning more propaganda than facts. Kim still has nuclear weapons and their delivery systems available to use , no matter what trump claims. trump was only going after business deals for himself and his family all along. He created conflicts to use to do this with, and if they don't pay him for policies or business deals he then uses the government to hurt them with. Trump embracing brutal ruthless terrorist dictators shows everyone once again who he sides with time after time. He's one of them, the really bad ones to.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:39 AM

23. Trump's supporters will follow him over the cliff, and agree to whatever he says happened.

If Trump says he never said that (despite videos showing him saying it), his supporters will agree that that is "fake news."

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:52 AM

26. Stupidity in Our Time

Face it - those 2 Dictator-Perverts understand one another

Now Trump will use Kim as a role model

So it's the U.S. that is F'ed!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 10:54 AM

27. I'm tired of all the "winning".... (n/t)

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:11 AM

29. Except I believe that was the point all along to the crazy dog and pony NK show

The goal for Trump and Putin is to withdraw troops from SK and lift NK sanctions. Trump is going do his best to obey his masters.

Lets hope those checks and balances hold!

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:15 AM

30. In some ways, this is worse than Munich...

...Neville Chamberlain was Pericles, compared to Trump. And Hitler, while obviously more evil than Kim--not an easy achievement, but Adolf is sui generis--was also more stable, emotionally. He was cold, clear-sighted, and ruthless. He would have laughed at both parties to this "summit". This is an incoherent, PR-driven "agreement" that sells out everyone we've promised to protect, for--nothing. Just to feel Trump's ego. I'm past feeling amazed and shocked. The world thinks we're insane, and they're right...

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:32 AM

35. This is a conundrum. Cheeto lied about what went on and what was conceded

so how can he say his buddy is lying? What to do, what to do ...

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:38 AM

39. This is all just a bunch of bullshit theatrical posturing on both their parts.

I believe Canada and Australia will probably become involved with South Korea, and possibly Japan, in joint military operations in place of the US. I'm not saying that the US isn't totally fucked at this point, but I think the other western alliances will strengthen their resolve.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:44 AM

40. Trump will have one of his Twitter fits against NK,

and the press will forget the NK meeting ever happened (because Trump will refuse to talk about it).

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:04 PM

41. Lies lies lies and he has continued to get away with it

Why do you think that's going to change?

Trump will walk it back.

Nobody will care.

North Korea will still cooperate because Russia and China will tell it to.

Trump will still lick NK's b**** some more because that's what putin tells him to do.

Nothing has changed.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:19 PM

43. I really can't believe anyone is buying this. Did people really think that it was going to be that

easy? After decades of tensions and even months of bad blood between Trump and Kim themselves, that Trump would just waltz right in their and get a brutal, murdering dictator to follow through on a promise to give up all his nukes and be our best friends for ever and ever? It's just insane to think that NK is no longer a threat or a problem. We are so being played.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #43)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:31 PM

47. His brain dead voters have fallen for it hook line and sinker nt

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:24 PM

44. The best negotiator in the history of the world

many people say the history of the universe

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 12:31 PM

46. you say "Trump", but i think you mean "our country"

Trump has no problems here. maybe he cut another shitty "deal" but he's been gambling with other people's money for a long time and this is no different. to him.

Trump will come out of this fine, one way or another.

i'm pretty worried about the rest of us.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 01:58 PM

48. This is his Hail Mary pass.

After setting himself up by minting those goddamned coins, he had to get the footage of handshakes and signatures.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:18 PM

49. No he's not...

He get's the 2% base domestic base bump and then when it all goes to shit he can tweet about how he was the victim in all of this and we go back to the last 50 years standard.

Yes, he looks like was Kim's bitch to most people but to the 25% of America that he cares about it's all a win.

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Response to Baconator (Reply #49)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:20 PM

50. +1000

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:42 PM

52. It's so adorable...

..that you think he or his base will ever take responsibility for anything, or allow themselves to believe anyone else's assessment of what happened, or ever turn on him or ever admit that he or they were wrong.

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Response to sunonmars (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 02:52 PM

53. Before its all over for trump

He'll openly threaten the American people, one way or another.

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