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Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:08 PM

Just heard on Hayes a dem Congress woman

Describing her visit to a federal prison with women seeking asylum. I can't even describe it without getting upset. Basically, what's going on with ice has very strong resemblance with the likes of pol pot, Stalin or Hitler. Same tactics. Separating kids from their mothers telling them they are going for a shower, putting these people in cells that are not heated with stale rusty water coming from a sink as their only source of water, putting them in cages, etc....
The United States is turning into a brutal dictatorship and Congress is doing nothing, most Americans can't be bothered to get informed or worse, believe the Trump propaganda that it's all fake news. Those are the exact same things that happened in 1920's Germany.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:16 PM

1. America

 

Has a LONG history of being pretty lousy to a wide variety of people. And it never addresses any of the underlying issues. In fact many Americans don't even know what their country has done, even to its own citizens, over the years.

It's funny, countries that have a superiority complex are often the worst countries of their day.

Hitler and his master race.
Japan and its God on earth telling the chosen race what to do
All the empires subjugating Asia, the Middle East and Africa.

And of course the US, shining city on a hill, the best country in the world and everyone knows it, etc.

And of course, who suffers in these societies?

Poor people, minorities, outsiders, etc.

History doesn't repeat, but it does rhyme.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:23 PM

2. Pramila Jayapal from here in Seattle. The detention center is just south.

There’s been a big protest and some serious intent to put this nightmare in front of as many people as possible. But there need to be advocates raising hell at every one of these concentration camps.


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pramila_Jayapal

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Response to nolabear (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:25 PM

3. Thank you for naming her. I could not remember her name

And did not want to butcher it.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #3)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:40 PM

4. She's a firebrand. I don't agree with everything she does

but I do with most of it and I am absolutely proud of her for walking the walk.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:03 PM

5. There should be millions

…of women in the streets marching about this.

Do we care about women—or not? I'm joining groups that are organizing this but there's not much of a ground swell yet.

Needs to be as big as the March on Washington after inauguration. And needs to not stop.



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Response to zentrum (Reply #5)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:58 PM

8. Agreed! I saw that segment. HEART-BREAKING!!!

What have we become? Who are we now? Who are we in the eyes of the rest of the world? Who are we, facing the mirror in the morning?

And it doesn't make the pain go away to remind myself that I didn't vote for him, and never fell for any of his snake-oil-on-toast sales pitches.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:20 PM

6. How can we help? I know I would take time off to join her and/or others to protest in person

anywhere. Anybody know? I can drive down from SC PA and pick up a fellow traveler along the way if they will help/join us. LMK Thanks!

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:55 PM

7. Agree just sickening. Hoping our BlueWave in November will give the house ability to pass

legislation against this EVIL sh*t.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 08:40 AM

9. "If you want to know what you would have done in 1930's Germany, you're doing it now."

I don't know who said that, but it's true.

We've had what, three, maybe four major marches since the Con's been in office? My non-political friends all believe that "it can't happen here," even as it's happening here. One of them, who never believed the Con would even get the GOP nomination, finally got woke & told me last week, "I'm genuinely afraid for where we're at & where we're going."

We're on a precipice & could topple either way.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #9)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 07:49 PM

10. So true

 

I've always been curious / fascinated by how Germany could have fallen into such a terrible place. A few years ago I found this, which helps explain things too. It's not an ideal one-to-one with our current situation but that frog in boiling water aspect is similar, IMO.

THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE FREE http://press.uchicago.edu/ucp/books/book/chicago/T/bo27509064.html
EXCERPT: http://press.uchicago.edu/Misc/Chicago/511928.html

I really can't do it justice with a few selected paragraphs -- it's a must read, tho.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #10)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:54 AM

11. Thank you.

I read the excerpt & it's exactly what's happening here–the normalization of Trump. The dems must win back at least one chamber of Congress or I don't think we'll survive this vile, vulgar man.

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