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Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:12 PM

Crusade Against In-Flight Phone Calls

Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) is making progress in his campaign against cell phone calls on commercial airline flights.

The Tennessee Republican has been touting the inclusion of language in the Senate version of legislation to fund the Department of Transportation that would direct Transportation Secretary Elaine L. Chao to finalize a ban on voice calls during flights, as regulations and technology change regarding cell phone use.

Alexander has been complaining about the issue for at least five years, often teaming with California Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein, a fellow senior member of the Appropriations Committee.

ďI would suggest that any senator who opposes banning cell phone conversations on flights be sentenced to sit next to a loud businessman talking to his girlfriend on a six-hour flight between New York and California,Ē Alexander said in a statement following last Thursdayís full committee markup. ďKeeping phone conversations off commercial flights may not be enshrined in the Constitution, but surely it is enshrined in common sense.Ē

Full story at:
https://www.rollcall.com/news/politics/senator-makes-progress-crusade-flight-phone-calls

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Reply Crusade Against In-Flight Phone Calls (Original post)
left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 OP
Blue_true Jun 2018 #1
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #14
Blue_true Jun 2018 #20
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #34
Blue_true Jun 2018 #38
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #22
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #33
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #37
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #39
BannonsLiver Jun 2018 #40
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #41
grantcart Jun 2018 #29
Demsrule86 Jun 2018 #32
grantcart Jun 2018 #35
hlthe2b Jun 2018 #2
cos dem Jun 2018 #3
kimbutgar Jun 2018 #4
Docreed2003 Jun 2018 #5
ret5hd Jun 2018 #7
Coventina Jun 2018 #10
Docreed2003 Jun 2018 #11
Shrek Jun 2018 #12
Ace Rothstein Jun 2018 #16
gratuitous Jun 2018 #27
BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #6
4now Jun 2018 #8
Hassin Bin Sober Jun 2018 #9
Orsino Jun 2018 #13
ProfessorGAC Jun 2018 #15
Adrahil Jun 2018 #17
Blue_true Jun 2018 #21
Adrahil Jun 2018 #23
Bengus81 Jun 2018 #18
left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #19
jmowreader Jun 2018 #24
left-of-center2012 Jun 2018 #25
jmowreader Jun 2018 #26
Thekaspervote Jun 2018 #28
BumRushDaShow Jun 2018 #30
Thekaspervote Jun 2018 #31
RhodeIslandOne Jun 2018 #36

Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:19 PM

1. Can't say that I disagree. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #1)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:08 AM

14. Right... did you ever hear of a little something called freedom?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:05 PM

20. People also need the freedom to not be invaded by a loudmouth who can't take a time out. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #20)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:07 PM

34. Why do you expect the world to live by your choices? May I suggest headphones or earplugs?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #34)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 05:18 PM

38. Why do you expect the world to live by your choices.

May I suggest texting?

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:13 PM

22. Freedom from self absorbed twits who want to yak loudly for hours on end?

Iíll take it 7 days a week and twice on Sunday.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #22)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:06 PM

33. Well that is up to you.

I have noticed lately that everyone gets mad at everything. Ameria seethes just waiting for a reason to get angry. No slight is to small...not saying you. This is a general observation... a little live and let live would do us all some good. A person talking on the phone doesn't bother me but I take my headphones anyway.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #33)

Wed Jun 13, 2018, 11:18 AM

37. I guess I just see the idea

Of 200-500 people enclosed in an aluminum tube all talking at the same time as fundamentally stupid and annoying.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #37)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 08:53 AM

39. Well being enclosed in an aluminum tube is shitty...so talking helps pass the time...I don't want to

see another reason to persecute folks on airplanes by the shitty airlines...and when I was flying home not that long ago, my niece was gravely ill...it helped to know I could stay in touch. I am tired of all behavior being regulated in someway. I just think that a rule or law is not needed-this is a minor annoyance at best and can be dealt with by the individual...and of course a GOP came up with the idea...I oppose all of their ideas on principle. Have a great day.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #39)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:13 AM

40. But surely you could see how hundreds of people talking at once

In such a small space would be unpleasant. Or maybe you canít? Iím getting that impression, quite frankly. Also getting the impression you donít fly much, ever, and donít really think through a lot of your hot takes. But hey you keep doing you and have a lovely day yourself.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #40)

Thu Jun 14, 2018, 09:18 AM

41. you could use head phones...mostly when I fly...people are texting.

But I have headphones...can't do anything about the coke spilled on me by the kids! but as a younger Mom, my kid spilled a coke on a businessman so Karma is a bitch! This is not something that should be made into a law...we have too many of these sort of laws. I have never been on a plane where people talking in general was an issue...my seatmate maybe...but I put on my headphones and all was good.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:42 PM

29. Lol, how about the freedom to not have to hear another person's

Phone conversation when they are sitting within inches of you.

It's rude and inconsiderate and not covered by the bill of rights which doesn't allow you to impinge upon another person's rights.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #29)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:04 PM

32. Ear plugs perhaps...but no everyone on a plane has to dance to your tune...your idea

of freedom is different than mine. I believe in freedom.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #32)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:10 PM

35. your concept of freedom does not give you license to create a disturbance for the others that are

forced to sit within inches of you.

You apparently are not aware that all freedoms are conditional on not impinging on other peoples freedom including to not impinge on other peoples rights.

That right currently exists and anyone who complains about someone talking loudly on a phone can complain to the crew and they will intercede.

What you can do in your own home is not the same thing that you can do in a public place. Beyond the obvious fact that anything you do that disturbs other passengers would impinge on their freedom is the obvious fact that it is just plain rude.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:19 PM

2. I'm with him on that...

I had the "pleasure" of hearing a man trying to converse with his hard-of-hearing mother, repeating every inane sentence and question re: what she had for dinner, what she had for breakfast, dozens of time at increasing volume to get her to hear it. I had no escape.

Oh, my.. Even five minutes of that had me wanting to rip my hair out.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:24 PM

3. But wait, what happened to "strict constructionist"?

If it's not in the Constitution, it's unconstitutional.

Unless, of course, it involved controlling women.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:24 PM

4. I kind of agree with him also

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:27 PM

5. I get the point...

But anyone else remember when flights had phones on the seat backs that you could pay to use!? That was pre-9-11

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Response to Docreed2003 (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:59 PM

7. Yeah, but how many remember someone actually using them?

I don't.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #7)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:23 PM

10. Like you, I never saw anyone ever use them.

I'm assuming that's why they don't have them anymore.

If they allow phone calls on airplanes I will stop flying.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:28 AM

11. Honestly me either

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:36 AM

12. I used them a couple of times to communicate a flight delay to someone on the ground

But their real value was managing my son when he was young. Any time he'd start to misbehave I'd point at the phone and ask him "do I need to call the Captain?" and for some reason it worked every time.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:23 AM

16. Weren't those fairly expensive to use?

I think that's why you wouldn't see many use them. They also stuck around for a while so someone must have been using them.

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Response to ret5hd (Reply #7)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:59 PM

27. I used one once

Flying back from a CPT delegation to Chiapas, I knew my wife would want to hear from me at my earliest convenience. The seat phone was kind of spendy, but under the circumstances well worth it.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:33 PM

6. It is even worse than crying children on flights.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:39 PM

8. I would rather have them talking on their phone then trying to talk to me.

But what do I know.
Never been on a plane.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:15 PM

9. The federal government is banning phones for a politeness issue?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:54 AM

13. If anything's going to move a Republican senator to action, it's minor personal inconvenience. n/t

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Response to Orsino (Reply #13)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:15 AM

15. Pretty Funny Stuff!

In this one odd circumstance though, i'm on Alexander's side.

The reason has more to do with just the seat partner yakking away.

I envision a plane with 250 people on it, and 175 of them yakking away. The plane would be a din of unintelligible gibberish.

Even an experienced flyer like me would find that stressful and disconcerting as it would be constant.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:40 AM

17. As annoying as it sometimes is....

It's also sometimes really important.

I've had to:

make last minute travel arrangements.
coordinate with my teenage daughter, at home, alone, when my flight got delayed.
coordinate with colleagues when a technical issue arises that needs fixing NOW.

The way to deal with obnoxious callers is to empower the cabin crew to do something about it.

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Response to Adrahil (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

21. For me, texting works much better. Plus, I don't run the risk of giving away confidential secrets

that a lot of money was spent researching.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #21)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 02:27 PM

23. I find that texting with hotels can be iffy.

Though that is my daughter's preferred medium of communication.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:44 AM

18. Watch...a ban UNLESS your in First class seating..............

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Response to Bengus81 (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:47 AM

19. Or pay an additional fee?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 03:34 PM

24. This is ridiculous

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #24)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:47 PM

25. I assume you are referencing ...

"abridging the freedom of speech" ?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #25)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:57 PM

26. Exactly

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:34 PM

28. Who here is a frequent flyer? If so, would you please weigh in.

As a FF I am thankful there isnít cell phone use!! Free speech? You agree when you go in a movie house, museum or live stage performance that you will not use your phone and disrupt everything... right. How is this different?

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:46 PM

30. This is why Amtrak instituted "Quiet Cars" on their Northeast corridor routes



(don't forget one of the original of "quiet" places - the library! )

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #30)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:59 PM

31. Oh yes and the library... thx!!

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #28)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:12 PM

36. There are plenty of people at movies who don't agree to this

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