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Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:10 PM

It's all a flim-flam. We are being played.

Trump shows up with no physicists or scientists of any kind. No sanctions experts. No Korea diplomatic experts. No secretary to official notes. We're supposed to just trust them. It's just a photo op for Trump, where he will claim tremendous success. They will declare it a great accomplishment and peace is near. Great progress is being made. blah blah blah But there will be no details. No timeline. Just a con man's bullshit flim-flam.

I feel disgusted with it. Really sorry I tuned in to watch it.

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Reply It's all a flim-flam. We are being played. (Original post)
vlyons Jun 2018 OP
Freethinker65 Jun 2018 #1
drray23 Jun 2018 #2
triron Jun 2018 #37
thegoose Jun 2018 #50
TeamPooka Jun 2018 #3
JoeOtterbein Jun 2018 #4
progressoid Jun 2018 #5
jalan48 Jun 2018 #7
Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #9
smirkymonkey Jun 2018 #6
Crutchez_CuiBono Jun 2018 #8
dawnie51 Jun 2018 #10
LuckyLib Jun 2018 #11
Golden Raisin Jun 2018 #32
nini Jun 2018 #12
Beartracks Jun 2018 #24
lancelyons Jun 2018 #13
Enoki33 Jun 2018 #14
lunatica Jun 2018 #48
woundedkarma Jun 2018 #15
lunatica Jun 2018 #49
kimbutgar Jun 2018 #16
BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2018 #17
vlyons Jun 2018 #18
keithbvadu2 Jun 2018 #27
KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2018 #33
BlueTsunami2018 Jun 2018 #35
7962 Jun 2018 #39
Juliusseizure Jun 2018 #47
Ccarmona Jun 2018 #19
FakeNoose Jun 2018 #20
Hamlette Jun 2018 #21
TryLogic Jun 2018 #22
Kablooie Jun 2018 #23
Honeycombe8 Jun 2018 #25
BobTheSubgenius Jun 2018 #26
renate Jun 2018 #29
workinclasszero Jun 2018 #28
IthinkThereforeIAM Jun 2018 #30
world wide wally Jun 2018 #31
GoCubsGo Jun 2018 #42
Efilroft Sul Jun 2018 #34
ooky Jun 2018 #36
moondust Jun 2018 #38
StarzGuy Jun 2018 #40
TNLib Jun 2018 #41
Soxfan58 Jun 2018 #43
BadGimp Jun 2018 #44
Orsino Jun 2018 #45
Raster Jun 2018 #46
LenaBaby61 Jun 2018 #51
DetroitLegalBeagle Jun 2018 #52
KPN Jun 2018 #53
KrazyinKS Jun 2018 #54
MadDAsHell Jun 2018 #55

Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:13 PM

1. Mission accomplished

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:13 PM

2. That's exactly the plan

And the deplorable will lap it it up. Probably a few pundits as well. Disgusting.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #2)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:26 AM

37. Eugene Robinson was practically kissing Trump's ass.

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Response to triron (Reply #37)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 05:55 PM

50. God, no

Did he really? This is such fucking bullshit. If Robinson is buying the Con's shit, it's another sad day for whatever country we have left.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:26 PM

3. Maybe Michael Cohen showed Trump how to record it on his iPhone.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:37 PM

4. Then you just missed Dennis Rodman

breaking down in tears on CNN.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:39 PM

5. Excuse me but what about Dennis Rodman???

Sponsored by Potcoin.com





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Response to progressoid (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:59 PM

7. He'll have a driver in Singapore so no chance for a DUI.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #5)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:03 PM

9. Peace ends in Singapore.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:59 PM

6. What a travesty.

I can't believe this shit.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:02 PM

8. "We'll see."

His big reply. Meanwhile, "Now, I'm going golfing for a few months and I'm billing it to YOU GUYS."

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:03 PM

10. Of course we're being conned.....

Dump no doubt has a woody right this minute, on every channel, endless camera time, world wide. Nothing will be said, or done, and he will bask in the glory of being himself, which is nirvana for a narcissist like him.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:06 PM

11. Wait til the Dumpster starts bloviating about high ratings.

Itís all a giant Reality Show.

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Response to LuckyLib (Reply #11)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:40 PM

32. And telling us this is the single greatest, most

important and significant moment in world history.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:07 PM

12. Everything he does is a freaking show

He has done nothing but theatrics.

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Response to nini (Reply #12)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:05 PM

24. And middle school theater, at that. n/t

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:15 PM

13. Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint.

Yeah I am guessing he was working a deal to put in a trump tower and a burger joint.

Perhaps Trump asked for some hacking help in the mid terms.

If he says we will pull all our troops out of the region, we will have lost and betrayed our allies.

If we have peace announced then thats a win for the NK since peace in the region undermines the reason US is in South Korea.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:15 PM

14. I have reached the point where it is impossible to look or listen

to any of the absurdity, vileness and absolute ignorance spewing from tRumpís foul mouth. He does not exist beyond what news, and other information l choose to read. That is how l will retain a sense of reality while working for a better tomorrow. And yes, it really is a flim - flam.

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Response to Enoki33 (Reply #14)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:41 PM

48. Ditto

If you want to know the truth it is necessary to avoid listening to Trump. Heís the master spinner on steroids. Listening to him leads to one of two places. You either believe his shit like the deplorables or you get violently ill.

Itís time to get serious and know the truth. Anything else is only a distraction. Outrage doesnít cut it anymore.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:21 PM

15. "We" aren't the ones being played. n/t

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Response to woundedkarma (Reply #15)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:43 PM

49. As long as all we do is get outraged we definitely are getting played.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:27 PM

16. It's just a reality show photo op

Everyday PT Barnum twitler has to distract the ignorant masses to keep them energized in their support of him.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:31 PM

17. The sad thing is, it's working.

Even many of my liberal friends are saying things like ďI hate Тяцмр but you have to give it up for him here.Ē

I donít want to say it but I sure am thinking it.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #17)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 PM

18. Not me

Show me the results. Show me the written and signed agreement. There isn't any. It's bullshit.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

27. Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing ho

Would Kim be able to trust Dotard by giving up his only bargaining chips, his nukes, after seeing how honorable Donald is in keeping his word?

With Bolton expressing his preference for a ĎLibya solutioní, where the leader of Libya was killed.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #18)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:41 PM

33. Yes, just like the Repug tax bill...

Loaded up-front with lies, flim-flam and deception for the show. Give it ten years, then we'll discuss end results. Of course by then, this reality show will have been long ago canceled.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:06 AM

35. Of course not you.

Youíre plugged in, most people arenít. Which is how we ended up here in the first place.

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Response to vlyons (Reply #18)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:00 AM

39. Right. Results are all that matters. NK has made many promises to us before & lied.

So lets see if this is different. I doubt it

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #17)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 02:59 PM

47. Your liberal friends are naive

Do we not recognize that Trump is full of shit and loyal only to those who pay him off (Russia/China/oligarchs).

The only thing Trump appears to have done is deter outright NK aggression by appearing willing to bomb the whole region into oblivion. That was a bluff. The NK aggression was a bluff too.

This is what bullies do. They instill fear to control the other and test reaction.

North Korean dictator appears to have backed off. In fact, heís just strategizing with China, and maybe even Russia, playing peacemaker.

I fully expect China and/or Russia to have some arrangement with Trump thats money related. Weíve already seen Trump try to get that Chinese telecom company thats a spy network into the US. He trolled G7 for Putin. Trump is playing along. He wonít get anything resembling a peace deal,but heíll play it up as a grand accomplishment.

The US may be doomed because too many people are infantile, vapid and shallow, havenít learned from history, immersed in commercialized simple answers created to satisfy dopamine receptors, eat up Trumpís marketing ability, lack a moral foundation, lack the effort to think in depth or comprehend long term consequences.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:46 PM

19. Trump's Reality Program Goes International

A mayonnaise & ketchup sandwich has more substance than this charade.
NK is legitimatized and Trump gets Bupkus but his string puller is very happy in Moscow.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:48 PM

20. Well, maybe SOME are being conned

... but we DUers saw through this from the get-go.

I really wish the intelligent people at MSNBC weren't playing it up like the pikers at Faux News are.
I know they know better.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 10:55 PM

21. been saying that for over a month

Trump's base and Fox news will agree, he brought peace to the Korean peninsula, ended a 70 year old war, etc.

it will be unbearable.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:04 PM

22. Absolutely. Flim flam photo op.

And, he is making "great progress," so he/Trump "must not be impeached" as that would ruin such a "great opportunity" to work out a deal with N Korea. The con man is playing us.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:05 PM

23. And the media will eat it up and vomit back out all over us day after day.

And votes for Republicans will increase.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

25. Yes. Heard on tv he already had his post-mtg speech ready to go..claiming success. nt

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:07 PM

26. All that being said...that is not the worst outcome of this charade.

My worry was that it would turn out to be very acrimonious, end up with one or both storming away from the table and making things worse than they've been in decades.

Compounding that "worse" would be the WH crowing about T
ough guy Cred.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #26)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:12 PM

29. yep! I certainly hope the meeting is successful

I suspect Trump is going to get played, with his profound lack of preparation and absolute lack of knowledge, but I hope it all goes well. I certainly don't want them to get into a pissing match.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:09 PM

28. Yep

I bet Putin, Dump and rocket man set it all up weeks ago.

Trump stabs the western alliance in the back at G7 then pulls this BS con with NK a day later.

Whatever Trump does it ALWAYS benefits Putin and mother Russia!

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:13 PM

30. To paraphrase Lawrence O'Donnell...


... when two liars meet, which liar do we believe in the morning?

He was speaking of that as his time slot began.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Mon Jun 11, 2018, 11:27 PM

31. Same bullshit... Different topic

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #31)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:08 AM

42. Yep. Like fucking Groundhog Day.

Spanky stages a production, claiming some sort of phony achievement.

The cult cheers, the media fawns over him, many on the left wring their hands and gnash their teeth.

Those of us who have been paying attention for the past 30 years sit back and wait for the rest to realize that the whole thing was nothing but a stage production that only made things worse for this country. (Well, except for the cult. They'll never figure it out.)

Lather, rinse, repeat.

Same shit. Different day.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:01 AM

34. Un, Trump, and Rodman are gathering for the Three Stooges revival.

I hope somebody litters on the street and makes it look like one of the three did it.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:17 AM

36. Of course it is.

I'm just wondering how much Kim will scam him for while he hides all his stuff.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 01:01 AM

38. MSM talk on and on and on for hours.

About what? A photo op?

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:04 AM

40. I already figured that this fraud

would make a no deal, deal and call it a success. It's a complete fraud and no one in their right mind should accept this as anything else.

The US is in deep doo-doo.

The lame media also gets a huuuuge chunk of the blame for sucking up to this tool and refuse to do any of their own investigation. Damn it.

What will it take to remove this MF from office? It is going to damage the station of the US in the world.

God help us all....

And I am an atheist!

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:49 AM

41. I've been watching the news and the press coverage is not good

I can't see how pulling our military out of SK, with nothing in return is going to play well with the military or former military. But it's starting to feel like Bizzaro world where our Nato Allies are US enemies and Russian, China and NK are now US allies.
This shit is moving fast. We are living in scary times.



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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:39 AM

43. Well played vlad

But its not over yet!

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 11:46 AM

44. PUTIN WINS AGAIN

#PutinWinsAgain

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:22 PM

45. And not being played well.

The only people this will fool are those with an interest in being fooled. Unfortunately, there are still plenty of them.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 02:22 PM

46. It was all Blather and Bullshit...

...just like everything else tRump*.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:09 PM

51. Evelyn Farkas ....

Is actually holding out hope, and wants to "see" what happens moving foreword between tRump & Kim Jong-Un. Wants to see what's in the details of the agreement fatso 1 & fatso 2 signed 🙄

PJ. Crowley, who I'd have though would have had a more discerning eye, wants to also give tRump the benefit of the doubt, because he feels that amongst other things, tRump MIGHT be getting Kim Jong-un comfortable enough before a world stage, which might possibly make him give up something (his nukes) Wait, isn't Kim Jong-un the same guy who amongst other things murdered his half-brother and who fed his uncle to a pack of hungry dogs? Yep, that sounds like a guy that can be reasoned with (Are they forgetting about the Human Rights abuses going on over there --->?).

tRump is an evil, rotten, insane, racist, sexually-abusive, treasonous mad dog with NO brain whose only is in "it" for himself so that he and his family/friends can make money. tRump is OWNED by putin, and these so-called experts on Ari's show are actually thinking that this situation between tRumputin and Kim Jong-un is REAL.

2 of the 3 persons on Ari's panel worked in the Obama administration, and I'd have thought that they would have known what type of thing tRump is, yet they want to give tRump the benefit of the doubt after seeing that Fat Dog & Fat Pony show yesterday, where tRump got almost NOTHING.

Rich Galen, the 3rd member of Ari's panel Said that while what tRump did in going to meet Kim Jong-un may be first step, one has to know that tRump can turn on anybody on a DIME IE: You trust that guy? Galen worked for Dan Quayle, yet he spoke with the most sense of the 3 foreign policy experts on Ari's panel about tRumputin/Kim Jong-un.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:12 PM

52. I think this whole thing is about the midterms

They are gonna milk this for all its worth. Use it draw attention away from things in the summer, then around September/October, right before the Midterms, I guarantee they will try to swing a big high profile treaty signing, maybe the official end of the Korean War, or some vague nuclear deal thats easily ignored, or something like they hand over the USS Pueblo to us. Something big and flashy right before the midterms, to try to stave off losses. The sad thing, MSM will eat it and the public will probably buy it.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 07:32 PM

53. You forgot the con man's bullshit film flam

designed and carried out specifically to distract from and fuel political opposition to the Russia collusion investigation.

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:37 PM

54. The whole thing looks staged

At first he calls him little rocket man, pushes him around scaring people into thinking there will be a war and now he is making peace so he can look good. It does look scripted, I mean really!

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Response to vlyons (Original post)

Tue Jun 12, 2018, 08:42 PM

55. I just don't see the benefit of assuming the worst. Life is depressing enough. nt

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