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NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:00 PM Jun 2018

Health care is now front and center

The majority of Americans know someone who does not have adequate access to health care, or simply cannot afford adequate health care.

The Republican Party has no interest in solving this crisis.

If you want to persuade voters to vote Democratic in the upcoming elections, discuss the health care crisis.

Here's an article discussing this issue for your reference.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/elections/democrats-october-surprise-midterms-hint-it-has-do-health-care-n881591

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Health care is now front and center (Original Post) NY_20th Jun 2018 OP
trump and the gop duforsure Jun 2018 #1
Word is going out that rates Turbineguy Jun 2018 #2
It's coming from Republicans who are sabotaging access to health care. NY_20th Jun 2018 #4
They will continue to rise unless the government puts the hammer down on the insurance companies, or RDANGELO Jun 2018 #6
I'm wondering if they are creating a talking point. Turbineguy Jun 2018 #17
Because they killed the individual mandate. nt tblue37 Jun 2018 #21
and the Republicans own it. RDANGELO Jun 2018 #3
Yes. And we need to hammer them on this issue. NY_20th Jun 2018 #7
This IS THE ISSUE for Dems to run with and WIN with! BigmanPigman Jun 2018 #5
Healthcare was an issue in 2016. Too many voters still went for trump. Hoyt Jun 2018 #8
True. NY_20th Jun 2018 #9
I hope I'm wrong, but you'd think even GOPers would be complaining about this. Hoyt Jun 2018 #10
Yet we have seen their constituents complaining. NY_20th Jun 2018 #11
They do complain. Turbineguy Jun 2018 #18
Some still don't care. xmas74 Jun 2018 #12
hmmm, I assume you are in a deep red district. NY_20th Jun 2018 #13
I already know the section. xmas74 Jun 2018 #14
Yeah, I think we are all aware of that. NY_20th Jun 2018 #16
In my area it's all about guns. xmas74 Jun 2018 #19
Wow! NY_20th Jun 2018 #20
The authorities know. xmas74 Jun 2018 #24
This almost always comes from someone who has a job or other access to healthcare. ooky Jun 2018 #15
THIS. area51 Jun 2018 #22
Yes, they've killed CHIP and now they're going to Cha Jun 2018 #23
K&R, the world's greatest healthcare system is anything but ck4829 Jun 2018 #25

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
1. trump and the gop
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:03 PM
Jun 2018

want only the elites to have health care, and Social Security is also next for them to destroy, which they've already started on it to. Its amazing so many American people could be conned into voting against themselves so easily.

Turbineguy

(37,313 posts)
2. Word is going out that rates
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jun 2018

will rise next year. I don't know where this comes from, but smell something GOP-like.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
6. They will continue to rise unless the government puts the hammer down on the insurance companies, or
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:19 PM
Jun 2018

maybe if you had a public option. That's not going to happen as long as the Republicans are in control. There are like five insurance companies that control like 80% of the market.

Turbineguy

(37,313 posts)
17. I'm wondering if they are creating a talking point.
Mon Jun 11, 2018, 09:58 AM
Jun 2018

They put out the word that rates are going up, but then they don't or only a little. Republicans take the credit. Ratfucking is their playbook.

RDANGELO

(3,433 posts)
3. and the Republicans own it.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jun 2018

They have had both houses and the presidency and they couldn't do anything. They have been shown to be a big fraud on health care.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
7. Yes. And we need to hammer them on this issue.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jun 2018

Lack of health care and lack of affordable health care is an issue that affects everyone. We are the leaders on this front.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
5. This IS THE ISSUE for Dems to run with and WIN with!
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:18 PM
Jun 2018

Voters in both parties want AFFORDABLE healthcare and that can land US a midterm win if the Dems shout it loud and long enough before Nov. All those people who called, wrote, protested and went to town halls are not happy with the GOP over this issue. Those rocket scientists who thought that Obamacare and the ACA were unrelated got a wake up call after the election. Fux Ruse didn't tell them that the ACA is the same exact thing as the "evil Obamacare". They hated Obamacare but that ACA thing that they heard horror stories for years about turned out to be not so bad after all. Gee, go figure.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Healthcare was an issue in 2016. Too many voters still went for trump.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 08:53 PM
Jun 2018

Hopefully HC will be a bigger deal this year, but I’ll have to see positive vote results to believe it.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
9. True.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 09:13 PM
Jun 2018

However they went for Trump because something scared them more than healthcare and access to health care.

Now that the "perceived threat" is no longer there, I expect that the majority of voters will once again focus on concerns that matter to them personally, rather than fear of "others".

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
10. I hope I'm wrong, but you'd think even GOPers would be complaining about this.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 09:17 PM
Jun 2018

Haven’t seen it.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
11. Yet we have seen their constituents complaining.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 09:25 PM
Jun 2018

If you recall, the Republicans were avoiding their townhalls and other meetings when they attempted to repeal the ACA.

xmas74

(29,673 posts)
12. Some still don't care.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 10:06 PM
Jun 2018

I've heard people say that if a person wants decent insurance they should find a good job that pays for it. I've heard a few especially heartless state that if parents can't afford it then they shouldn't be insured through CHIPS or other programs. When asked if the choice is state insurance or a child death the comment was that "God will just call them to Him."

(I heard this exact comment a week ago while working a GOTV booth. Of course they had state pay on their eight kids but "that's different".)

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
13. hmmm, I assume you are in a deep red district.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jun 2018

That must be frustrating for you. It also seems that you've been dealing with very cruel people.

Here is the section of the Democratic Platform that deals with health care.

https://www.democrats.org/party-platform#healthcare



xmas74

(29,673 posts)
14. I already know the section.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jun 2018

I'm just letting you know that there are voters who really don't care if others live or die.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
16. Yeah, I think we are all aware of that.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jun 2018

But good people still outnumber deplorables.

Find them, register them. When we vote, we win.

xmas74

(29,673 posts)
19. In my area it's all about guns.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:01 AM
Jun 2018

They are more concerned about guns and who is in the next bathroom stall.

Believe me, I've volunteered for twenty plus years in this area and it's all going downhill. In other areas things will change but one focus and one topic will not work everywhere. And if you speak up around here you have phony accounts on Facebook sending you messages with your address, telling you to shut up. My seventeen year old was out canvassing last week, appropriately dressed with a name tag introducing herself. She had one person tell her that if he saw her on his block again he had a bullet with her name. Another turned on the sprinkler. Another called the police, describing her and said she was breaking in to a house. (Yes, the police responded.)

In some areas they just don't care.

 

NY_20th

(1,028 posts)
20. Wow!
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 12:09 AM
Jun 2018

I certainly wouldn't want to live in your town.

That's just crazy.

You should alert authorities about the person who threatened your daughter with a bullet.

I don't know where you are, but there must be a more inhabited metropolitan area in your vicinity that would perhaps be safer for you and your daughter.

xmas74

(29,673 posts)
24. The authorities know.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jun 2018

They said if she was in his yard at the time it's a formal of Castle Doctrine.

She's a full time college student in our town. This school is the only one in my state offering her major, she has a big scholarship, she has alumni mentors at the school.

We're buckling in and riding it out.

ooky

(8,922 posts)
15. This almost always comes from someone who has a job or other access to healthcare.
Sun Jun 10, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jun 2018

Most of them will change their song book when their circumstances change.

I think an effective campaign ad would be to show a dramatization of a family kitchen table discussion, who just lost their job and access to health care, with the message "what will you do when this happens to you?" And then point out the statistics of how many will lose their health care next year, how many bankruptcies, etc.

Also, a dramatization of a family who will be impacted by Trump's policy of removing protection for pre-existing conditions coverage.

These ads, followed by our party's unified push for Medicare for All.

One thing we need to clearly point out is that these Republicans HAD a health care bill, and it DID NOT LOWER THE COST OF HEALTH CARE. Instead it raided Medicaid to give money to the rich.

area51

(11,904 posts)
22. THIS.
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:32 AM
Jun 2018

It'd also be great to have an ad showing a "fat cat" insurance company executive (played by an actor) laughing while rubberstamping "denied" on people's health care claims.

Cha

(297,123 posts)
23. Yes, they've killed CHIP and now they're going to
Tue Jun 12, 2018, 04:51 AM
Jun 2018

Off Pre-existing Conditions being OK to get insurance.

GOTV PEEPS who care about issues like that!

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