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Fri May 25, 2018, 07:58 PM

Remember Lawrence screaming about Ryan being at center of Nunes scandal & media totally missing it?

This is why Ryan won't get rid of Nunes:

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10028865654
From March 28, 2017. I am copying the whole OP here:

O'Donnell tonight: Ryan at center of Nunes scandal. R in as deep as N; this why R won't remove Nunes

O'Donnell again tonight showed clip of Ryan saying he "had to brief the speaker first" before going to WH. Asks, "Why are no reporters picking up on Ryan involvement in Nunes scandal? I’ve showed this clip three times of Nunes saying he had to brief the speaker before he did anything else, and yet no one is picking up on it."

"Ryan is at the center of the scandal. The press apparently didn’t hear it when he said it in the WH driveway when he said he first went to Ryan before going to the WH. Everything he did after that would have been at the direction of Ryan. "

"The Nunes scandal is Paul Ryan’s scandal. That is why Ryan won’t remove him. Ryan is in it as deep as Nunes is. If Nunes can lose the chairmanship over it, Ryan can lose the speakership over it. "

I have wondered myself why more aren't picking up on this, even on DU. See this thread: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10028850749
for O'Donnell show video and transcript from Thursday where he raises this question of why no one seems to be picking up on Ryan's involvement and says Nunes is covering up for Ryan; that Nunes fell on his sword for Ryan.

This is very important; it means Ryan is colluding as well as Nunes! Not only colluding, but directing Nunes. Much more in the thread from the Thursday show linked to above, but O'Donnell feels it so important that he brought it up for the third time tonight.

He also had former CIA director on telling why it was critical to Nunes and Ryan to stop Sally Yates testimony.

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Reply Remember Lawrence screaming about Ryan being at center of Nunes scandal & media totally missing it? (Original post)
Amaryllis May 2018 OP
triron May 2018 #1
Amaryllis May 2018 #2
Glimmer of Hope May 2018 #3
montanacowboy May 2018 #4
rzemanfl May 2018 #7
Amaryllis May 2018 #8
pangaia May 2018 #18
montanacowboy May 2018 #19
fierywoman May 2018 #28
maddiemom May 2018 #35
malaise May 2018 #37
RandomAccess May 2018 #5
Amaryllis May 2018 #9
RandomAccess May 2018 #10
yonder May 2018 #14
RandomAccess May 2018 #17
yonder May 2018 #22
jodymarie aimee May 2018 #6
malaise May 2018 #11
madamesilverspurs May 2018 #40
malaise May 2018 #41
debsy May 2018 #12
DemocracyMouse May 2018 #13
calimary May 2018 #39
BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #15
maddiemom May 2018 #36
YOHABLO May 2018 #42
ladym55 May 2018 #16
lindysalsagal May 2018 #20
fierywoman May 2018 #29
TheRealNorth May 2018 #21
snacker May 2018 #23
BigmanPigman May 2018 #24
CrispyQ May 2018 #33
BigmanPigman May 2018 #43
uponit7771 May 2018 #47
pnwmom May 2018 #25
liberalla May 2018 #31
Hamlette May 2018 #26
Mike Rows His Boat May 2018 #27
njhoneybadger May 2018 #30
tazkcmo May 2018 #32
Kirk Lover May 2018 #34
calimary May 2018 #38
OnDoutside May 2018 #48
JAD May 2018 #44
JAD May 2018 #45
triron May 2018 #46

Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:13 PM

1. I didn't catch this; but boy, it is incredibly important.

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Response to triron (Reply #1)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:16 PM

2. Lawrence thought it was important enough that he brought it up two nights in a row

and asked several times why no one was picking up on it.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:18 PM

3. Damn. I need a flow chart.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:23 PM

4. There was a video that surfaced

some time ago of a meeting of the house, Kevin McCarthy, Ryan where it was mentioned that Russian money was being taken and Ryan shut it up real quick, saying "we have to keep this in the family"

That is a fucking smoking gun and I have never seen it again anywhere. Someone leaked that video and it has disappeared off the news completely. Only republicans were at that meeting and it's my guess that Evan (last name ? from Utah) leaked it and he said there were more tapes.

Am I the only one who saw this?

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #4)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:25 PM

7. I remember it too. There is too much crap to keep track of. n/t

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #4)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:27 PM

8. Here is it is, from WaPo:


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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #8)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:31 PM

19. Thanks for finding it

From the first moment I saw that video I knew what it was all about with these GOP Scumbags.

We need to keep this up front and played over and over again

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #4)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:24 PM

28. I saw it too and think of it constantly.

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #4)

Sat May 26, 2018, 02:45 PM

35. No, I saw it, too. It was talked about for a day or two on SOME of the liberal media...

but never in great depth, and then "forgotten."

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Response to montanacowboy (Reply #4)

Sat May 26, 2018, 02:57 PM

37. This



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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:24 PM

5. Wow.

 

The implications are staggering. Thanks for bringing it up this way.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #5)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:30 PM

9. thanks for read and rec. I thought it was incredibly important but couldnt get any

traction on it when i posted it on DU at the time.

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Response to Amaryllis (Reply #9)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:39 PM

10. What gets traction and what doesn't is a mixed bag

 

I think it depends on all sorts of things:

* Catchy or "clickbaity" title
* Time of day
* What else is going on (on a hot news day, a different important story won't cut it)
* Who posts it
* Lord only knows what else

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #10)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:53 PM

14. "Lord only knows what else"

I'd also offer: greedy old bastards in control of the MSM

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Response to yonder (Reply #14)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:08 PM

17. Well, true enough, but

 

she and I were talking about what gets traction on DU

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #17)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:42 PM

22. yes, I missed that distinction

and was responding with regard to the title of the OP's thread "... Nunes scandal & media totally missing it?"

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:25 PM

6. Here in WI

we have always known this fuck was bought off...

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:40 PM

11. From the day I knew that Ryan told his fellow ReTHUGs to keep it secret

that Putin pays the Con the conspiracy was public knowledge. What more do you need?

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Sat May 26, 2018, 03:20 PM

40. I want to believe that some day soon

Ryan and McConnell will occupy adjoining cells next to the rest of the Trump cabal.


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Response to madamesilverspurs (Reply #40)

Sat May 26, 2018, 03:21 PM

41. I sure hope so

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:47 PM

12. The entire GOP are, at best, complicit in the coup, at worst, being blackmailed...

... to keep their mouths shut. All of them who continue to turn a blind eye to the takeover of our country by the Russian mob (yes, I put dumpster and his ilk in that family) are doing so because they are comrades or being blackmailed by them. FIN

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:53 PM

13. That tape and the WAPO story on the same is CENTRAL to our current misery.

Dear DU editors:
Please start a new category called "smoking guns" and make a link to this story. It could be modified over time, but could be a clearing house for the bewildering array of bad news. Only the most key stories which rise to the level of a "smoking gun" would be posted. Maybe DU members could vote on which stories rank as such.

Just a suggestion, and thanks Amaryllis, for reminding us of that outrageous recording. The Rebublicans are traitors. This is so unbelievable (until you hear the tape).

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #13)

Sat May 26, 2018, 03:19 PM

39. Interesting idea. Our CONS' Criminality Collection!

I’m no legal expert but sure seems to me we’ve had a few near-smoking guns by now. I keep asking - “how is this NOT collusion?” And yeah, I know, the legal term is not “collusion” but rather, “conspiracy”. With all these moving parts and multiple players, “conspiracy” does fit well also.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 08:57 PM

15. All of which makes Ryan's retirement make a lot more sense.

"Wanting to spend more time with family" is the time-honored fig leaf.

The more modern version is perhaps "Wanting to spend more time with family before prison."

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #15)

Sat May 26, 2018, 02:53 PM

36. I think Ryan's ambitions have been pretty much derailed.

He's always been an overrated lightweight. It seemed as if he didn't want the Speaker's job, and no wonder. He was really ineffectual. Joe Biden really began the Ryan "unmasking' during their V.P. debate. I'm pretty sure that Paul won't suffer any discomfort financially, however.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #15)

Sat May 26, 2018, 04:28 PM

42. He'll be on K street.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:04 PM

16. Why do you think the GOP has been so compliant with this giant train wreck?

Why do you think SO many members are running for home as fast as their little feet can carry them? They know their party colluded with an enemy of our country so that Rethugs could control the government. They know they are totally owned by Putin and Russian oligarchs. Nunes is trying desperately to avoid prison.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:39 PM

20. FRump knows they won't impeach because he'll take them all

Down with him. Remember that camp David gop photo? He took them there to threaten them. It will all come our some day. Scumbags don't keep secrets well.

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Response to lindysalsagal (Reply #20)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:27 PM

29. And we know Trump for decades has operated in NYC Mafia type circles by acquiring dirt on everyone -

(a la the Schneidermann matter.) No doubt he has dirt on all or most repugs.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:42 PM

21. The same electoral strategy the Republicans employed in 2016

(i.e. driving wedge issues in rural vs urban voters) is the same strategy the WI Republicans had been perfecting. Ryan and Priebus are up to their noses in this.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #21)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:53 PM

23. Yes!

It worked (and is still working) in WI.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:55 PM

24. The RNC Deputy Finance Chair is COHEN!

He has been funneling $$$ to the GOP from foreign "investors" and he is STILL in the position! This is why McConnell was able to hold onto the SCOTUS with such certainty and why Ryan has allowed the moron to get away with murder. Half of the GOP has been financed with contributions that are illegal. This is the really big deal that the media is afraid to report.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210595088

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #24)

Sat May 26, 2018, 11:29 AM

33. I'm not so sure the media is afraid to report it. Remember:

The media is only as liberal as the conservative corporations that own it*. Do the corporate officers & shareholders of the news corporations (& other corporations, too) really mind if the US goes fascist? Remember CBS CEO touting the Trump may be bad for America but he was good for ratings. As long as they continue to make money, do they care?

Everyday the Con is in office I fear we are closer to losing our country.

* That's a bumper sticker I saw once.

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Response to CrispyQ (Reply #33)

Sat May 26, 2018, 04:43 PM

43. The media is still kissing his ass for ratings

and they haven't learned anything from the election when they followed him around like puppies while no one was interested in discussing the issues with Hillary.
Yesterday, after 24/7 news about the meetings that Dems would be blocked from and how it was unconstitutional, etc the media spent a nanosecond on the follow up story. They did not discuss it, what info was in it, how to stop the GOP from doing it again, strategies, what the is means for future similar situations,...nothing was discussed as follow up. They are worse than click bait with their viewers and the next, new distraction.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #24)

Mon May 28, 2018, 01:19 AM

47. +1

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 09:55 PM

25. And maybe it's connected to this FBI raid reported a year ago:




"Developing: FBI confirms agents are executing a search warrant at the office of GOP Fundraiser/Consulting firm in Annapolis"

More here:

http://www.wbaltv.com/article/fbi-searching-annapolis-fundraiserconsulting-firm/9639787

The firm is touted for pioneering the use of technology in political campaigns, and it represents GOP candidates nationwide. The firm's website said one of its principals was formerly associated with a firm operated by Paul Manafort, who is the former Trump campaign manager whose business dealings with Russia are under intense scrutiny.

Strategic Campaign Group's national clients include the Tea Party and the Conservative Majority Fund. The local client lists include Maryland state House Minority Leader Nic Kipke, and Delegate Pat McDonough used the firm while running for Congress.

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Response to pnwmom (Reply #25)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:33 PM

31. I have great hopes for this FBI raid, and what it will eventually reveal

I remember the news of it... another tentacle on this monster

I can't wait until everything is known and out in the open...

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:11 PM

26. why did ryan need to stop Yates?

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:14 PM

27. Since the days they were drinking from kegs they've been dreaming of this!

 

Young republicans, old republicans.... scum.

(apologies for my bad language)

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Fri May 25, 2018, 10:28 PM

30. The Koch brothers are the the Republican Party. Ryan and Nunes answers to them.

The immigration bullshit is a good cop bad cop farse.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2018, 09:39 AM

32. All GOPee "leadership"

Is complicit. We knew this when we found out about their their lack of action after being briefed by Obama about the hacking. President Obama thought he was telling them stuff they didn't know but they already did and didn't want to stop it. Lawrence's piece reinforces this and it should be the preface to every discussion about this whole charlie foxtrot.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2018, 11:33 AM

34. I've heard this many times that Ryan is OKing ALL OF THIS. nt

 

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2018, 03:10 PM

38. Ryan is complicit as hell. Could that be why he's getting out now?

Trying to beat the heat before it turns up under him?

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Response to calimary (Reply #38)

Mon May 28, 2018, 02:40 AM

48. They know more than we do right now, and are getting out before all is revealed, otherwise, with the

gerrymandered Congress, why wouldn't he stay ? It's just too convenient that so many of them want to spend more time with their families, all at the same time.

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sat May 26, 2018, 07:15 PM

44. Washington Post May 17, 2017

From what I remember about this article Ryan was asked by the reporter about the conversation, the reporter did not mention he had the recording, Ryan said the conversation never happened. The reporter then told Ryan he had the transcript, Ryan replied that the transcript was wrong.The reporter then said he had the recording, Ryan replied they were just joking. The conversation happened before the Republican convention in 2016. Knowing about Treason and not telling the FBI, is Treason.

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Response to JAD (Reply #44)

Sat May 26, 2018, 07:26 PM

45. I emailed Ryan about this and you can too!

I emailed Ryan about this recording almost nine months ago and then again after he announced he wouldn't be running. I told him good luck on his retirement the first time I wrote to him. Imagine my surprise when he said he would not be running. I also wrote to him about knowing about treason and not telling the FBI, is treason. Does he think that by allowing Nunes to commit obstruction and goodness knows what else that negates his crimes?

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Response to Amaryllis (Original post)

Sun May 27, 2018, 09:05 PM

46. kick for visibility

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