Thu May 24, 2018, 01:15 PM

NFL players kneeling: have we forgotten?

If I remember correctly, Colin's intent when he knelt the first time was specifically to protest police brutality against black people. Then DJT turned it into a political statement by saying he was disrespecting the military, the flag, and the anthem.

Have people in general been hoodwinked by DJT and the MSM into forgetting Colin's original intent and getting into all this arguing about the flag and the anthem? IOW, did DJT get tons of people pissed off with a shithead comment?

Incidentally, when the movie Poltergeist came out, there was a scene, late at night, when the TV station was signing off and playing the anthem. It's right there on the DVD. I didn't see the movie in a theater, but I just have to wonder how many people stood up during the scene.

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6 replies	Author	Time	Post
NFL players kneeling: have we forgotten? (Original post)	grumpyduck	May 2018	OP
Not forgotten by me and most here I dont think but good reminder.	Eliot Rosewater	May 2018	#1
Time to boycott... TV, games, gear, advertisers... all of it!!	InAbLuEsTaTe	May 2018	#2
You watch: the players respond EN MASSE. . .	DinahMoeHum	May 2018	#3
That isn't actually correct	mythology	May 2018	#6
Don't like the rule. But if players aren't on the field during Anthem, that tells me they are	Hoyt	May 2018	#4
I understand, but	grumpyduck	May 2018	#5

Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 01:16 PM

Eliot Rosewater (30,156 posts)

1. Not forgotten by me and most here I dont think but good reminder.

I heard the Jets owner will pay the fines of players who kneel?

If I was a fan and my team owner wouldnt do this I would no longer be a fan.

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Thu May 24, 2018, 01:19 PM

InAbLuEsTaTe (23,846 posts)

2. Time to boycott... TV, games, gear, advertisers... all of it!!

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Thu May 24, 2018, 01:39 PM

DinahMoeHum (21,170 posts)

3. You watch: the players respond EN MASSE. . .

. . .by NOT going out onto the field until AFTER the anthem is played.

As they used to do before 2009, when the owners got greedy and took Department of "Defense" $$$ for the privilege of allowing gaudy displays of "patriotism"

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Response to DinahMoeHum (Reply #3)

Thu May 24, 2018, 02:22 PM

mythology (9,527 posts)

6. That isn't actually correct

The change in 2009 was only for prime time games. For regular games, players were already on the field for the anthem.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2017/sep/25/short-history-national-anthem-and-sports/

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Thu May 24, 2018, 01:53 PM

Hoyt (54,770 posts)

4. Don't like the rule. But if players aren't on the field during Anthem, that tells me they are

making a statement. I like the kneeling or fist in the air of old, but not being on the field still makes a statement. And god knows we need it.

Heck, I haven't watched a whole NFL game in years. If I'm even interested in the outcome, would just as soon turn in going into the last quarter.

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Response to grumpyduck (Original post)

Thu May 24, 2018, 02:14 PM

grumpyduck (5,340 posts)

5. I understand, but

it seems to me that, either way, Colin's original intent is still getting buried in what's become a political issue. We need to get past the political shit started by DJT and remember what the original intent was. And it's still as relevant as when he knelt the first time.

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