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kpete

(71,961 posts)
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:38 AM May 2018

Schiff will now attend BOTH briefings, including the Nunes/Gowdy/Ryan briefing at noon,

Yet another change of plans to briefing over confidential FBI source: Pelosi says that Schiff will now attend BOTH briefings, including the Nunes/Gowdy/Ryan briefing at noon, per @ElizLanders








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Schiff will now attend BOTH briefings, including the Nunes/Gowdy/Ryan briefing at noon, (Original Post) kpete May 2018 OP
Good. nt Ilsa May 2018 #1
yes! CatWoman May 2018 #11
All signs of Democratic and institutional power at work. Hortensis May 2018 #31
If This is True itcfish May 2018 #89
I heard Ryan won't go is that true...maybe afraid of criminal charges? Demsrule86 May 2018 #39
I think Ryan is hoping to slink away, hoping Ilsa May 2018 #41
He is a coward...there must be some serious shit going down. Demsrule86 May 2018 #43
The "official" story is that he has had long standing plans BigmanPigman May 2018 #53
Lunch with Donnie.... SergeStorms May 2018 #91
hahah...funny stuff. +1 Demsrule86 May 2018 #99
Sure...get out of dodge...he doesn't want any part of this. Demsrule86 May 2018 #98
He's probably afraid someone will ask him why, when Kevin McCarthy said Tanuki May 2018 #67
Ryan is counting his days. forgotmylogin May 2018 #80
You think he fears that some like Nunes and others who do this shit could in the end be indicted? Demsrule86 May 2018 #97
He's probably eager to keep his name out of anything vaguely Trump-shaped. forgotmylogin May 2018 #100
Those who were Trump's toadies like Nixon's folks will be forever tarnished. Demsrule86 May 2018 #102
Hope he talks about all their BS afterwards. BSdetect May 2018 #2
I want to hear after both briefings leftynyc May 2018 #10
:) No need to wait: The Republicans found shocking Hortensis May 2018 #35
Exactly. Kurt V. May 2018 #40
They should all just walk into the first meeting. This is ridiculous. n/t livetohike May 2018 #3
Yes, absolutely! Crash the place and knock down the door. PearliePoo2 May 2018 #6
Yes this should happen. It is weakness to not do this. triron May 2018 #16
yes (a la Brooks Brothers) CharleyDog May 2018 #49
Exactly. zentrum May 2018 #59
Amen to that. Ilsa May 2018 #84
There ya go! That's it exactly. zentrum May 2018 #96
Wow! This is great news! I wonder what happened to allow this? PearliePoo2 May 2018 #4
Agree notdarkyet May 2018 #5
Good news strangedaysindeed May 2018 #7
Agreed JoeOtterbein May 2018 #8
More Dems zentrum May 2018 #60
Except Schiff won;t have any 'witnesses' to back up what he may report pangaia May 2018 #71
Exactly my point. He's zentrum May 2018 #85
I thought Ryan culdn't make it.??? triron May 2018 #9
GOOD! spanone May 2018 #12
Awesome!!!!!! manor321 May 2018 #13
I feel better knowing this. Again, the Democrats were working behind the scenes. sunRISEnow May 2018 #14
I think you are right. Bradshaw3 May 2018 #48
Too often I see some reactions hair on fire when I observe the Democratic Leaders sunRISEnow May 2018 #54
I also appreciate what they have done.. BUT... pangaia May 2018 #73
"maybe it IS time for some loud in the face" We have that with Trump. We have it with OR. sunRISEnow May 2018 #78
Shouldn't be quiet at all. zentrum May 2018 #63
Equal number, like team sports or something? I want to know what is happening in a meeting. sunRISEnow May 2018 #81
The camera matters a lot. zentrum May 2018 #86
Ya..., no. I do not agree taking this to playground behavior is the answer. sunRISEnow May 2018 #88
There may be delays during the first meeting Sneederbunk May 2018 #15
Yeah, the panting, sweating, lap-dog Nunes running to his Master for a pat on the head! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #47
Don't insult lap dogs! robbob May 2018 #69
Oh GOOD one! Something resembling a stinking pile of ORANGE in the grass! PearliePoo2 May 2018 #79
Give your dog a pat on the head for me! robbob May 2018 #93
I hope someone will dish on why they changed their minds to allow a representative Grammy23 May 2018 #17
My guess would be the DOJ. n/t janx May 2018 #36
Having the Democrats there also offers some plausible deniability Buns_of_Fire May 2018 #46
Good. Now someone trustworthy can verify the same info presented at both meetings. (nt) JaneQPublic May 2018 #18
Thank God Me. May 2018 #19
They should have known who they were dealing with. madaboutharry May 2018 #20
Goblins take power when nice people abstain from politics. DemocracyMouse May 2018 #61
Good but also bad. Had the WH and GOP gone ahead with their plan to exclude Dems KPN May 2018 #21
Excellent. Nunes will be very upset. Which is also excellent. ooky May 2018 #22
Good dalton99a May 2018 #23
This is definetly how... tonedevil May 2018 #24
Rep. Schiff is outmaneuvering Devil Nunes at every turn meow2u3 May 2018 #25
True, when the meeting is over one guy will obstruct justice, the other wont. Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #27
A shot in the dark over the change but... icnorth May 2018 #26
I just mentioned something similar above. janx May 2018 #37
That's something of a relief Cary May 2018 #28
Trump better watch out for Gowdy. NCTraveler May 2018 #29
A "presidential-type" decision kentuck May 2018 #30
Oh, thank GAWD! Hugin May 2018 #32
And yesterday weak-kneed DU members were claiming Democrats do nothing. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz May 2018 #33
Bazinga! George II May 2018 #76
Boom! mcar May 2018 #90
good. As bad as Gowdy is, I suspect it was Gowdy who agreed to this. I doubt Nunes would have still_one May 2018 #34
Your damned right he will!! PubliusEnigma May 2018 #38
im hoping theres an 'oh shit' moment that makes trump resign... TalenaGor May 2018 #42
did Nancy pull a fast one? Kurt V. May 2018 #44
will there be a third meeting we don't know about? unblock May 2018 #45
K&R! R B Garr May 2018 #50
I wouldn't be surprised Catherine Vincent May 2018 #51
Great move by Schiff. Vinca May 2018 #52
Now it's not just a coven of co-conspirators. BadgerMom May 2018 #55
If need be Mr. Schiff, wear an adult diaper, seriously! Iliyah May 2018 #56
I bet Cheeto has already arranged for a secret, third meeting. sandensea May 2018 #57
Perfect. Schiff 2020! zentrum May 2018 #58
I agree with you on this!!!!! onecent May 2018 #72
That's great. I guess all the gnashing of teeth and claims that Democrats "are weak", etc., etc.... George II May 2018 #62
Where are the rest of the Dems zentrum May 2018 #66
Unbelievable!!! Did you see anything about what's going to happen (or did happen) this afternoon?? George II May 2018 #68
Clearly not. And... NurseJackie May 2018 #74
Exactly, I think that's the ulterior motive. None of these "Dems" have acknowledged that maybe.... George II May 2018 #75
I'm An Outsider? ProfessorGAC May 2018 #101
No but as you can see a MEME of ATTACKING democrats is what happened there Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #82
"Unbelievable!!! " Right? sunRISEnow May 2018 #83
That's good news. Nitram May 2018 #64
Good man Hekate May 2018 #65
Schiff is a trooper bucolic_frolic May 2018 #70
Love that Schiff C_U_L8R May 2018 #77
Speaker Of The House! True Blue American May 2018 #95
I Guess itcfish May 2018 #87
Good! nt Honeycombe8 May 2018 #92
McConnell said True Blue American May 2018 #94

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
31. All signs of Democratic and institutional power at work.
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:20 PM
May 2018

This crooked Republican attempt started with one meeting and two Republican legislators who both serve the president under investigation and one of whom is also personally involved in Trump-Russia. Since then there have been, what? At least 6 changes since -- that we know of, all bringing in bigger guns against the Republicans and taking control away from them.

SergeStorms

(19,186 posts)
91. Lunch with Donnie....
Thu May 24, 2018, 05:23 PM
May 2018

at McDonald's. You don't think they make those quarter-pounders every day, do you? The chefs at Mickey-D's only create that high cuisine once in a great while. The waiting list is months in advance. No wonder Ryan couldn't break the date!

Tanuki

(14,914 posts)
67. He's probably afraid someone will ask him why, when Kevin McCarthy said
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:28 PM
May 2018

he thought Trump and Dana Rohrabacher were on the Kremlin payroll, he told everyone present to keep it quiet and in the "family."

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
80. Ryan is counting his days.
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:13 PM
May 2018

He's like an employee who has already turned in his two-week notice and doesn't feel the need to attend a boring HR meeting.

forgotmylogin

(7,520 posts)
100. He's probably eager to keep his name out of anything vaguely Trump-shaped.
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:25 AM
May 2018

Gotta work on that "legacy" you know.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
10. I want to hear after both briefings
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

whether they were identical - they really shouldn't be because gowdy isn't part of the gang of 8.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. :) No need to wait: The Republicans found shocking
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:22 PM
May 2018

evidence of deep state corruption that threatens our democracy. The Democrats and the intelligence services found that the FBI and DoJ operated properly.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
6. Yes, absolutely! Crash the place and knock down the door.
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:51 AM
May 2018

And make sure the press is there with their cameras rolling!
This "meeting" shouldn't even be happening in the first place.

This is all outrageous bullshit with Paul Ryan's stooge Nunes acting as the snitch.

CharleyDog

(757 posts)
49. yes (a la Brooks Brothers)
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:50 PM
May 2018

Demand to be seated, and challenge them. "Arrest me, go ahead." I'd like to see some righteous Democrat anger and spine.

Ilsa

(61,690 posts)
84. Amen to that.
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:45 PM
May 2018

And someone can tell Sarah Huckster Sanders to go screw herself and her excuses for promoting only trump spies to see the IC documents.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
4. Wow! This is great news! I wonder what happened to allow this?
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:42 AM
May 2018

Schiff HAS to be there to keep an eye on that traitorous piece of shit Devin Nunes!



Oh, and btw, there NEVER should have been a meeting, let alone two of them. It's preposterous.



 

strangedaysindeed

(226 posts)
7. Good news
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:51 AM
May 2018

Now we can stop worrying that stuff from the first meeting disappears before the second.

cuz you know damned well That was going to happen!

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
71. Except Schiff won;t have any 'witnesses' to back up what he may report
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:49 PM
May 2018

if it is different from the fascists.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
14. I feel better knowing this. Again, the Democrats were working behind the scenes.
Thu May 24, 2018, 11:58 AM
May 2018

They may not have been at a microphone making their demands for the public to see, but they did get the job done.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
54. Too often I see some reactions hair on fire when I observe the Democratic Leaders
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:01 PM
May 2018

quietly getting the work done, doing what they can. I have faith in our leaders because what I have seen over the last couple years is that they do a pretty good job containing as much as they can. Not loud and in the face. But like adults, leaders, responsible people.

I think they have done well for having no power.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
73. I also appreciate what they have done.. BUT...
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:51 PM
May 2018

maybe it IS time for some loud in the face so more amereicans know what the fuck is happening.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
78. "maybe it IS time for some loud in the face" We have that with Trump. We have it with OR.
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:07 PM
May 2018

Both show us how much it does not work and how it leaves our adult Democratic Leaders to quietly do the work. While there are others creating the very chaos we demand our Democratic Leaders to fix.

Kind of ironic, that.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
63. Shouldn't be quiet at all.
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:25 PM
May 2018

Should demand that an equal number of Dems be there.
Schiff's word against all the Repugs isn't that powerful a response.

Need to have been educating the American people about the threat to democracy of a private meeting. Needed to have created sound bites and headlines about it. We in the choir don't need it, but the middle does.

 

sunRISEnow

(217 posts)
81. Equal number, like team sports or something? I want to know what is happening in a meeting.
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:18 PM
May 2018

I am not posturing for position in appearance on camera like Trumps tv show. Schiff is quite capable of doing the job. That is the real message. That is the real strength. One man to document, that we trust. One Democrat that can well hold his own for all of us.

This is not about show. Trump does that. We are not Trump.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
86. The camera matters a lot.
Thu May 24, 2018, 03:28 PM
May 2018

Be realistic. We live in a media world. The word of a single honorable Dem against all their various over-rides of meaning will drown him out in the national mind.

This isn't about Democratic supporters—it's about the rest of the country.

The Dems need to break out of the re-active mode and go on the offensive. It's outrageous that they were precluded from this meeting at all. They must not cede ground on their right to be there. It' not about sports. It's about basic justice and fairness and getting the truth out. It can't all be on Schiff's shoulders.

There's a structural problem here.

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
47. Yeah, the panting, sweating, lap-dog Nunes running to his Master for a pat on the head!
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:50 PM
May 2018

Would be nice if on his 'Trek to Trump' a giant sink-hole swallowed him up and the rat-bastard was never seen again!

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
79. Oh GOOD one! Something resembling a stinking pile of ORANGE in the grass!
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:11 PM
May 2018



I laughed so hard that I woke up MY sleeping lap dog!


Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
17. I hope someone will dish on why they changed their minds to allow a representative
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:00 PM
May 2018

From the Democrats be there. Something changed and rather quickly from “there will be a second meeting” to Adam Schiff will be attending both meetings. Somebody spill the beans how THAT happened. A lot of us were disturbed the meeting was being held in the first place so maybe they got an avalanche of protests?? I dunno. But SOMETHING happened.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,151 posts)
46. Having the Democrats there also offers some plausible deniability
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:37 PM
May 2018

for that little weasel Nunes when the entire briefing gets leaked to fox.

madaboutharry

(40,190 posts)
20. They should have known who they were dealing with.
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:01 PM
May 2018

Adam Schiff doesn't take any crap from anyone.

He is 1,000,000 X smarter than the idiots he has to deal with. Nunes is a dumbass who shouldn't be anywhere near power.

DemocracyMouse

(2,275 posts)
61. Goblins take power when nice people abstain from politics.
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:22 PM
May 2018

We all must redefine EXISTENCE as including citizenship and its responsibilities. Without all hands on deck (and voting Nov 6) we allowed the entire Klown Kar Kabal to take over.

KPN

(15,635 posts)
21. Good but also bad. Had the WH and GOP gone ahead with their plan to exclude Dems
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:04 PM
May 2018

it would, I believe, have been disastrous for them in the long run. They are dodging their own bullet on this one.

 

tonedevil

(3,022 posts)
24. This is definetly how...
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:09 PM
May 2018

one would expect the well oiled machine maned by a stable genius would be running. There is nothing ad-hoc about this administration no way, no how.
















As if it was needed:

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
27. True, when the meeting is over one guy will obstruct justice, the other wont.
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

I like threads like this where I dont have to fight off people who accuse me of being lockstep because I support the only thing standing between us and fascism.

sigh

icnorth

(1,015 posts)
26. A shot in the dark over the change but...
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:16 PM
May 2018

I wouldn't be surprised to hear that FBI Director Chris Wray and DAG Rod Rosenstein made the information meeting conditional on both parties being present. On this point they stand on solid ground.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
29. Trump better watch out for Gowdy.
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:17 PM
May 2018

If they aren't offering Gowdy a serious position then he is a loose cannon.

George II

(67,782 posts)
76. Bazinga!
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:01 PM
May 2018

And they're still at it, even in this discussion about Schiff attending the briefing.

This is great news, especially since Schiff will be at both briefings so he can ensure that the same things are said at both, but sadly to some "Democrats" that's still not good enough.

Vinca

(50,236 posts)
52. Great move by Schiff.
Thu May 24, 2018, 12:53 PM
May 2018

We would have heard nothing remotely close to the truth if only Nunes and Gowdy were there.

Iliyah

(25,111 posts)
56. If need be Mr. Schiff, wear an adult diaper, seriously!
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:02 PM
May 2018

Don't let them out of your sight nor ear!

sandensea

(21,600 posts)
57. I bet Cheeto has already arranged for a secret, third meeting.
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:12 PM
May 2018

"Is that all they got on me? I want everything!"

George II

(67,782 posts)
62. That's great. I guess all the gnashing of teeth and claims that Democrats "are weak", etc., etc....
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:23 PM
May 2018

....was all for naught.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
66. Where are the rest of the Dems
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:26 PM
May 2018

…in the meeting? So it isn't just Schiff's word against all those Trump-shields?

Where are they? They shouldn't have accepted any of this.

George II

(67,782 posts)
68. Unbelievable!!! Did you see anything about what's going to happen (or did happen) this afternoon??
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:31 PM
May 2018

Schiff is going to the first briefing, and he and several Democrats (not "Dems"!!!) will be at the second briefing. Of course, it's easy to bash the Democrats, that seems to be de rigueur recently.

Did you even bother to read the OP before you started bashing the "Dems"?

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
74. Clearly not. And...
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:55 PM
May 2018
Did you even bother to read the OP before you started bashing the "Dems"?
Clearly not. And the outsider shorthand has been noticed by more than just you alone.

Of course, it's easy to bash the Democrats, that seems to be de rigueur recently.
It's divisive and it weakens the party. In that one sentence, I described not only the consequences, but the motivation as well.

George II

(67,782 posts)
75. Exactly, I think that's the ulterior motive. None of these "Dems" have acknowledged that maybe....
Thu May 24, 2018, 01:59 PM
May 2018

....the Democrats in Congress know what they're doing and get the results they, and we, want in situations like this.

ProfessorGAC

(64,852 posts)
101. I'm An Outsider?
Fri May 25, 2018, 10:40 AM
May 2018

Using outsider lingo? I use Dems all the time, and there are VERY few people on DU here longer than me.

I calls republicans, R's. It's an internet forum, best to keep things brief when possible, and people here know what i mean.

I think you're way overestimating the negative importance of that term.

Eliot Rosewater

(31,106 posts)
82. No but as you can see a MEME of ATTACKING democrats is what happened there
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:21 PM
May 2018

and still there for ALL to see

THIS is how elections are lost...

for FUCK sake

C_U_L8R

(44,987 posts)
77. Love that Schiff
Thu May 24, 2018, 02:04 PM
May 2018

That’s a patriot to admire. Smart, good hearted and unafraid to use his elbows.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
94. McConnell said
Thu May 24, 2018, 07:29 PM
May 2018

Nothing surprising at the meeting.

The Freedom Caucus is screeching on Fox News, the only station that will have them.

Jim Jordan makes me want to vomit.

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