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Wed May 16, 2018, 03:55 PM

BREAKING: With bipartisan support, the U.S. Senate just voted to save Net Neutrality!

THE AYES HAVE IT!

The Senate just voted 52-47 to protect #NetNeutrality from Trump's FCC.

The fight moves to the House now - it's an uphill battle, but the three Republican Senators who voted YES today (Collins, Murkowski, and Kennedy) should make it a little easier.











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Reply BREAKING: With bipartisan support, the U.S. Senate just voted to save Net Neutrality! (Original post)
kpete May 2018 OP
Crutchez_CuiBono May 2018 #1
dalton99a May 2018 #3
Alethia Merritt May 2018 #46
Nictuku May 2018 #2
onenote May 2018 #6
a kennedy May 2018 #38
onenote May 2018 #40
Stuart G May 2018 #4
MoonRiver May 2018 #5
rurallib May 2018 #7
calimary May 2018 #23
CaliforniaPeggy May 2018 #8
Dave Starsky May 2018 #24
pazzyanne May 2018 #29
NewJeffCT May 2018 #9
onenote May 2018 #12
Ligyron May 2018 #28
S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #20
NewJeffCT May 2018 #32
S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #34
NewJeffCT May 2018 #39
S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #44
NewJeffCT May 2018 #49
marble falls May 2018 #10
luc mont May 2018 #17
marble falls May 2018 #22
luc mont May 2018 #26
Nanjeanne May 2018 #11
pazzyanne May 2018 #30
IronLionZion May 2018 #13
defacto7 May 2018 #14
spicysista May 2018 #15
S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #16
malaise May 2018 #36
BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #18
onenote May 2018 #25
Demsrule86 May 2018 #19
Uncle Joe May 2018 #21
C Moon May 2018 #27
AllaN01Bear May 2018 #31
Vinca May 2018 #33
Cha May 2018 #35
onenote May 2018 #41
Cha May 2018 #43
BigmanPigman May 2018 #37
nini May 2018 #42
a kennedy May 2018 #45
RandomAccess May 2018 #47
IronLionZion May 2018 #48
Raine May 2018 #50
orangecrush May 2018 #51
Dopers_Greed May 2018 #52

Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 03:59 PM

1. NICE

But the veto...

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Response to Crutchez_CuiBono (Reply #1)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:02 PM

3. Completely negotiable - with a $500 million donation to the Trump Organization

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Response to Crutchez_CuiBono (Reply #1)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:25 PM

46. Seems like some Senators want those young votes.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:01 PM

2. Wow!

Will the House follow suit? Will the President sign it? (replaced Senate with House - oops)

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Response to Nictuku (Reply #2)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:06 PM

6. No. No.

House won't even vote on it. And if they did, it would lose and if by some miracle it won, it would be vetoed.

But it was a worthwhile exercise in any event.

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Response to onenote (Reply #6)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:35 PM

38. So what will possibly happen when the Dems take back the House in 2018?? *keeping fingers crossed*

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Response to a kennedy (Reply #38)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:53 PM

40. At that point, the Congressional Review Act window will have closed

Congress can pass legislation imposing net neutrality rules but it would have to pass both the House and Senate and survive a veto. While members on both sides of the aisle continually express interest in dealing with the issue legislatively, getting something that can command a veto proof majority in both houses (or would be acceptable to Trump even if passed by a small majority) will be challenging.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:02 PM

4. k and r no text..

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:02 PM

5. Awesome!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:10 PM

7. woo-hoo

now to find how my bought and paid for senators voted-
Ernst and Grassley

Yep - just as I thought

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Response to rurallib (Reply #7)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:45 PM

23. Give their local offices a call and give 'em a piece of your mind!

It’s easier to get through to your reps when you call locally and/or regionally. Calling their DC offices can sometimes be an exercise in futility.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:10 PM

8. Great News, even if it's only symbolic.

I really doubt the House will follow suit, and of course, there's always the chance of a veto.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:46 PM

24. It's not just symbolic.

Every one of the Congress critters who vote against this bill will go on record as not supporting it, and they will have to defend that stance. Every one who votes for it will also be on record.

The Republicans in the house will have enough to deal with this November without having Internet freedom wrapped around their necks. They really have no reason not to vote for it, since Shitgibbon will surely veto it. And then they can blame him.

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Response to CaliforniaPeggy (Reply #8)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:07 PM

29. I just read this a few minutes ago, so looks like there are people already working on solving this.

"Even if the Senate passes the resolution, it's unlikely to be enacted. It has drawn far less support in the House of Representatives, and Trump is unlikely to sign a resolution that would effectively rebuke his FCC chairman.

However, net-neutrality supporters are also seeking to overturn the FCC's action in federal courts and pushing measures that would offer net-neutrality protections within a state's borders."

We can only hope that this succeeds. They are framing it as the right to free speech I think.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:13 PM

9. Will Ryan even allow this to come to a vote?

This should be on the short list of issues that Democrats run on in the fall.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #9)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:19 PM

12. No he won't.

But you are right that it should be made an issue for the November elections.

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Response to onenote (Reply #12)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:03 PM

28. Absolutely.

Since Ryan is retiring anyway, he doesn't mind the blame.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #9)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:41 PM

20. The republican't don't want this to be a 2018 issue.

The Democrats are already using Net Neutrality and the republican't campaign to kill people's health insurance as campaign issues for 2018.

The republican'ts can't win running against Net Neutrality. They need this issue to go away now, preferably in a way they can claim they did something the American public wants.

A large majority of the young voters in this country understand the issue and oppose politicians who won't support Net Neutrality.

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Response to S.E. TN Liberal (Reply #20)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:15 PM

32. Republicans might take the chance, though

and hope that the young people don't turn out in the midterms, because they typically do not

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #32)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:23 PM

34. NewJeffCT, you may be right.

I think we are seeing a pretty highly motivated group of young people since TraitorTrump lied his way into the White House.

The republican'ts can't afford to take any chances their policies will drive even more youngsters to the polls in November.

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Response to S.E. TN Liberal (Reply #34)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:51 PM

39. Didn't the Governor of Arizona

what's her name, basically say that Hispanic voters don't turn out so they had no worries about Democrats making up ground in her state a few years back?

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #39)

Wed May 16, 2018, 07:51 PM

44. NewJeffCT,

You do know things change, don't you?

The only true constant is that things change.

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Response to S.E. TN Liberal (Reply #44)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:43 PM

49. yes, understood

I've been a lifelong pessimist, though. I thought Hillary was going to win for sure in 2016 - so, my one recent time being optimistic saw my hopes dashed...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:14 PM

10. Can not believe it.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #10)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:35 PM

17. Me neither

 

It's gotta be yet another Republican trick!

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Response to luc mont (Reply #17)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:43 PM

22. If they know cheetolini has a over-ride free veto, weak candidates can claim they stood up...

to cheetolini.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #22)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:50 PM

26. Ah, Yes

 

Thank you for clarifying.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:15 PM

11. Excellent news! I like to think that Senator Al Franken is very pleased! Net Neutrality was his baby

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #11)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:10 PM

30. I am sure he is.

He addressed his support for net neutrality on one of his posts on his web site not long ago.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:27 PM

13. Sweet! Finally some good news!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:28 PM

14. Excellent...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:32 PM

15. Yay!

Celebrate, good times!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:35 PM

16. AT&T has bet $600,000, (at least), that TraitorTrump will kill Net Neutrality.

How much does AT&T have invested in the House?

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Response to S.E. TN Liberal (Reply #16)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:29 PM

36. Great question

but perhaps the $600,000 helped the Senate have a rethink

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:37 PM

18. EXCELLENT news!

Because this is hypothetical, a bit esoteric and less than an epic drama at a quick glance, the importance of this might well be being lost in the background of govt. criminality. It could easily be that it is the biggest single item we've heard in months, and will be, until The Indictment is handed down.

It's more important than the smokiest smoking gun we've see to date, IMO.

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Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #18)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:48 PM

25. In the end it will be helpful but not dramatically important

I'm glad Markey introduced the resolution of disapproval and glad it passed. And the Six incumbent republican senators that are running for re-election in November and that voted against the resolution should have that vote thrown in their face. But the resolution will never come up for a vote in the House. And to the extent its raised against any house member, its likely that their tactic will be to deflect by claiming that they support bi-partisan legislation to address the issue.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:38 PM

19. That is awesome!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 04:43 PM

21. Kicked and recommended

Thanks for the thread, kpete

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:00 PM

27. YES!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:14 PM

31. bravo for the senate . happ y happ y joy joy.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:21 PM

33. Amazing, but the serious Trumphumpers are in the House. No champagne yet.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:25 PM

35. What!!! This is like a Miracle! Those R Senators voted

yes.. 'cause they're vulnerable and their constituents aren't as brainwashed as the others?

Every computer user should want net neutrality.. not just Dems.

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Response to Cha (Reply #35)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:59 PM

41. interestingly, the repubs up for reelection in 2018 all voted against the resolution

While the three repubs that voted for it don't face the voters again until 2020 (Collins) or 2022 (Kennedy and Murkowski).

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Response to onenote (Reply #41)

Wed May 16, 2018, 06:23 PM

43. That is interesting, onenote.. I have

a feeling their constituents still wouldn't like it very much if they voted "No".

Those other Rs are freaking hopeless.. hope it backfires on them somehow.

Mahalo!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:33 PM

37. Yeah, maybe our phone calls helped.

I have been calling and signing petitions for days now.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 06:04 PM

42. I'm sure glad those Establishment Dems did this

Who knew?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:22 PM

45. Senator Kennedy?? From Louisiana??

and am I the only one when they say “John Kennedy” gets a little sick thinking he’s not a Democrat BUT A REPUB.??

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:34 PM

47. Oh thank heaven

 

I'm so relieved.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:40 PM

48. Dems need to win the house and pass this there too

and of course throw out that steaming festering pile of shit from the white house and install Pelosi as President to sign it into law

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:49 PM

50. THIS is VERY good news!

I know I signed plenty of petitions about this, so glad that both sides listened to the people for a change!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:40 PM

51. K&R!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Thu May 17, 2018, 02:27 AM

52. I'm surprised this happened under Cocaine Mitch

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