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deminks

(11,014 posts)
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:21 PM May 2018

'Infuriated' Jared Kushner Lost His Cool When Russians Didn't Deliver Hillary Dirt

Jared Lied, Bigly.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/infuriated-jared-kushner-lost-his-cool-when-russians-didnt-deliver-hillary-dirt?source=twitter&via=desktop

Kushner claimed he had no idea why he was in that notorious Trump Tower meeting. Newly-released testimony indicates otherwise.

Jared Kushner became “agitated” and “infuriate[d]” at the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting when a Kremlin-connected lawyer droned on about U.S. sanctions, instead of delivering on a promise to provide damaging information on Hillary Clinton. That’s according to Rob Goldstone, a British music promoter and friend of the Trumps who helped set up the meeting between Natalia Veselnitskaya and Donald Trump Jr.—and who testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee about the Trump Tower confab.

Goldstone’s testimony stands in contrast to what Kushner said in public about the meeting. In a July 2017 statement, Kushner paints himself as bored and confused by Veselnitskaya’s presentation.

"I had no idea why that topic was being raised and quickly determined that my time was not well-spent at this meeting,” he told the House Intelligence Committee’s Russia inquiry, adding that he texted an assistant and asked for a call on his cell phone to excuse himself from the meeting.

But Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee concluded in their final report on Russian interference in the 2016 election that Kushner, along with Trump Jr. and Paul Manafort "had expected to receive—but did not ultimately obtain—derogatory information on candidate Clinton" during the meeting.

Goldstone, for his part, testified that Kushner became visibly angry when Veselnitskaya delivered a lengthy diatribe about U.S. sanctions on Russia and their impact on adoptions—instead of handing over dirt on Clinton.


Hook, line, and sinker.
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'Infuriated' Jared Kushner Lost His Cool When Russians Didn't Deliver Hillary Dirt (Original Post) deminks May 2018 OP
Jared has cool? Girard442 May 2018 #1
Jared has egg on face. And more than that. calimary May 2018 #17
That's a full serving of huevos rancheros across his smug mug! Nitram May 2018 #32
My first thought, too! Since when did he have "cool" to lose?? Rhiannon12866 May 2018 #24
I'd love to see the video of everyone laughing as Jared's face turned red & he started squeaking. FSogol May 2018 #2
I'll bet only dogs could hear it . . . hatrack May 2018 #5
I just cracked up here at work at visualizing that scenario. smirkymonkey May 2018 #8
Love the wording. lol'ed. tn NCTraveler May 2018 #9
I can't imagine anything but that guy's pasty white face. George II May 2018 #12
Immediately I thought of... lame54 May 2018 #3
Fancy that, Jarad - not everyone is so criminal they have "dirt" to be exploited. haele May 2018 #4
You've nailed home a point about these people. They're so used to working with corrupt people LisaM May 2018 #10
And they're likely to view anyone who doesn't as suckers. calimary May 2018 #19
KR Cha May 2018 #6
So, he was disappointed he didn't get to commit treason? maxsolomon May 2018 #7
The there was missing? czarjak May 2018 #11
Trump crime family too stupid for words. Lonestarblue May 2018 #13
Jared Kushner became "infuriated?" Sam McGee May 2018 #14
Jared "Dead Eyes" Kushner? You don't say.... ollie10 May 2018 #15
Yeah, wow not fooled May 2018 #21
Ooh, sounds Scary! luc mont May 2018 #16
According to Goldstone. .99center May 2018 #18
Here's what I don't get... Ligyron May 2018 #20
That's actually the one part I believe ... I think the Russians were NEVER going to be so dumb ... mr_lebowski May 2018 #26
Yes, a much more likely scenario. Ligyron May 2018 #27
Imagine that dork infuriated? RhodeIslandOne May 2018 #22
Now there's a reality show I'd watch (well, once or twice)... JHB May 2018 #23
Video of it JI7 May 2018 #25
Boooo Hooooo Nothing on Clinton dirt.....!!! onecent May 2018 #28
Corruption is everywhere w/ these guys...nt SWBTATTReg May 2018 #29
"You got the wrong guy! I never heard of Donald Trump! I thought 'Russia' was slang for 'hurry up' struggle4progress May 2018 #30
Kick dalton99a May 2018 #31
Rec, thanks for the article. But of course, Mc Mike May 2018 #33
Lost in all this debate randr May 2018 #34
"quickly determined that my time was not well-spent". Flat. Out. Lie. Roland99 May 2018 #35

calimary

(81,125 posts)
17. Jared has egg on face. And more than that.
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:55 PM
May 2018

Sounds like he also has more legal troubles facing him.

haele

(12,640 posts)
4. Fancy that, Jarad - not everyone is so criminal they have "dirt" to be exploited.
Wed May 16, 2018, 02:35 PM
May 2018

Who could have thought that someone who has been scrutinized with an aggressively hostile microscope for every one of the thirty year of her national political life would still have any "dirt" that couldn't easily be ignored as negligible or explained away as not being from any of her actions or decisions?
Why, maybe a Mafioso type criminal who only does business with other like minded criminals?
Someone who is so out of touch with the idea of ethics, laws, or morals that it's inconceivable to him (or her) that other people might operate their business within the law and may actually be acting under a desire to improve the greater good for the country, as well as their own benefit?

Haele

LisaM

(27,794 posts)
10. You've nailed home a point about these people. They're so used to working with corrupt people
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:18 PM
May 2018

that they probably feel everyone is that way. (Not to mention that they're pretty corrupt themselves). They see the world in a whole different way.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
7. So, he was disappointed he didn't get to commit treason?
Wed May 16, 2018, 03:05 PM
May 2018

The "Dirt" was illegally obtained through foreign espionage and acceptance/use of it constitutes Conspiracy.

He's fucking lucky they just "droned on" about the Magnitsky Act sanctions.

And they DID deliver later.

LOCK HIM UP.

Lonestarblue

(9,958 posts)
13. Trump crime family too stupid for words.
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:12 PM
May 2018

Not only were they stupid to think that none of this would ever see the light of day, but they were stupid to think that the Russians had serious dirt on Hillary Clinton. Her every action has been investigated since Bill Clinton’s entry into politics. Dozens of investigations over the decades brought no wrongdoing to light—nada. Did the Trumps truly think that there was any part of her life that had not been examined in public?

 

Sam McGee

(347 posts)
14. Jared Kushner became "infuriated?"
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:20 PM
May 2018

I'd like to see Jared become infuriated.

What do you bet it looks something like this:


.99center

(1,237 posts)
18. According to Goldstone.
Wed May 16, 2018, 04:56 PM
May 2018

Unbelievable that so many people are buying Trump & Russia's BS. "Music promoter"? Uh huh, and Natalia was just a lawyer...

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
20. Here's what I don't get...
Wed May 16, 2018, 05:17 PM
May 2018

How do we actually know the Russians didn't supply some kind of dirt on Hills which was eagerly lapped up by the criminals in the room. Because they all said so?

We're taking the word of known, proven liars for some reason?

Does anyone have a tape of this exchange?

hmmmm....

 

mr_lebowski

(33,643 posts)
26. That's actually the one part I believe ... I think the Russians were NEVER going to be so dumb ...
Thu May 17, 2018, 05:09 AM
May 2018

As to simply hand over 'documents' in a scenario like that.

No, what they DID, was tell them all they 'HAD' documents, and that if these Drumpf reps would agree to handle the sanctions problems (if they won, which they probably would, cause the documents), then they would see to it that documents would soon see the light of day via public release on various websites like Wikileaks.

I think Jared & DJTJr likely went in thinking they'd be physically 'handed shit', but the Russians were like "Uh ... how dumb are you?We're not going to DIRECTLY HAND YOU DOCUMENTS IN TRUMP TOWER YOU STUPID F**KS you have any idea how illegal that would be? No, this is what we're going to be doing ... it will be via anonymous releases, so nobody knows about this arrangement ... YOU GET IT NOW? So ... IF you will agree to fix the 'adoption issue', we will 'provide the dirt' we've promised'. Now ... do we have a deal?"

And Manafort, the one US person there totally accustomed to EXACTLY this 'manner of operation' ... said to DJTJr and Jared ... 'take the deal' ... and they probably did.

And within weeks, Guccifer 2.0 (Known Russian Intel Agent) was releasing hacked docs from the DNC. Which DNC records show ... they ALREADY HAD at the date of the Tower meeting.

Does it make any sense now?

Cause that's how I make sense of the thing ...

Ligyron

(7,616 posts)
27. Yes, a much more likely scenario.
Thu May 17, 2018, 08:12 AM
May 2018

The Russians, unlike the dumb-ass Trump crew, knew better than to give it directly to those morons. Russians are so much more experienced at this type of thing than a bunch of NYC real estate grifters.

Because as it turned out, they did have dirt, and it did come out. In exchange for promises elicited also by other players on the Trump team like Manafort, Sessions, etc. Hence their Russian contacts which were so vehemently denied by everyone on the Trump campaign.

"What? Me talk to Russians? NEVER"!

JHB

(37,157 posts)
23. Now there's a reality show I'd watch (well, once or twice)...
Wed May 16, 2018, 07:28 PM
May 2018

...just for the "in the dictionary" picture of "ineffectual" (or mayby a SFW version of "impotent&quot .

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
30. "You got the wrong guy! I never heard of Donald Trump! I thought 'Russia' was slang for 'hurry up'
Thu May 17, 2018, 09:59 PM
May 2018

I really thought we might just pay off a few porn stars and adopt their babies!"

Mc Mike

(9,111 posts)
33. Rec, thanks for the article. But of course,
Fri May 18, 2018, 11:12 AM
May 2018

they're lying their freak heads off that there was no deal resulting from the meeting.

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