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Wed May 16, 2018, 12:38 PM

They really think We're That Stupid

OR, They really are That Stupid;

"Opening of the US Embassy Had Nothing to do with Gaza [Massacre] "

https://crooksandliars.com/2018/05/nikki-haleythe-opening-us-embassy

Then they tried to say Palestinian leaders staged it intentionally (and got people killed) as a "propaganda attempt",

Because Israhell had no choice but to defend 'it's border' from unarmed "assailants".

I am heartsick for this country.

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Reply They really think We're That Stupid (Original post)
strangedaysindeed May 2018 OP
Sherman A1 May 2018 #1
J_William_Ryan May 2018 #2
Wellstone ruled May 2018 #3
treestar May 2018 #4
NCTraveler May 2018 #5
oasis May 2018 #6
dawg May 2018 #7
uppityperson May 2018 #8
oberliner May 2018 #9
karynnj May 2018 #11
oberliner May 2018 #12
tammywammy May 2018 #10
procon May 2018 #13
Fozzledick May 2018 #14

Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 12:42 PM

1. They don't care

Whether you are stupid, smart or your opinion.

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:08 PM

3. Does anyone really think the

Arab Nations are going to sit still for this. Not!

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:10 PM

4. Reminiscent of what brought about Benghazi

Which was such a big deal to the Rs at the time.

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:16 PM

5. Palestinian and Hamas leaders did stage it intentionally.

 

That does not negate the fault of others.

There is also a glaring lie in your op that needs corrected. Many of them were not unarmed. This is why the conversation cannot take place. Everyone is dependent on the propaganda that meets their settled thoughts. There is enough horror on all sides that the propaganda for everyone can be based in the truth. That is where we are at. I can make every party involved look like forces of evil without ever telling a fib. It's the cool thing to do these days.

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:22 PM

6. Tricky Nikki looking toward 2024. For now, she's able to lie with impunity. nt

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:24 PM

7. Oh, they don't think *we're* that stupid.

But their own base ...

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:26 PM

8. "Israhell"???

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:29 PM

9. There are always protests on Naqba Day

I'm sure the US Embassy opening ramped things up a bit, but there are protests every year on this date.

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Response to oberliner (Reply #9)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:34 PM

11. The US and Israel should have avoided the date as it could be seen as provocative

Given Friedman's and Kushner's backgrounds I assume they knew that having it around Israel Independence day means it is also the memorialization of the "Nakba" - or catastrophe. They are two sides of the time celebrated/memorialized.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #11)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:47 PM

12. The date was likely specifically chosen because of its significance to many Israelis

Obviously the day is viewed very differently by Palestinians, but to many Israelis it is an important historical milestone to be celebrated.

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 01:31 PM

10. "Israhell"???

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 02:28 PM

13. Unfortunately for the whole world, Trump really is that stupid.

He couldn't find Jerusalem on a map, let alone know anything about the dynamics at play.

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Response to strangedaysindeed (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 05:56 PM

14. A personnal account of how Hamas stages propaganda from an AP reporter who's seen it first hand.

Hamas understood that Western news outlets wanted a simple story about villains and victims and would stick to that script, whether because of ideological sympathy, coercion or ignorance. The press could be trusted to present dead human beings not as victims of the terror group that controls their lives, or of a tragic confluence of events, but of an unwarranted Israeli slaughter. The willingness of reporters to cooperate with that script gave Hamas the incentive to keep using it.

The next step in the evolution of this tactic was visible in Monday’s awful events. If the most effective weapon in a military campaign is pictures of civilian casualties, Hamas seems to have concluded, there’s no need for a campaign at all. All you need to do is get people killed on camera. The way to do this in Gaza, in the absence of any Israeli soldiers inside the territory, is to try to get through the Israeli border, which everyone understands is defended with lethal force and is easy to film. About 40,000 people answered a call to show up. Many of them, some armed, rushed the fence. Many Israelis, myself included, were horrified to see the number of fatalities reach 60.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1134135808

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