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Tue May 15, 2018, 04:27 PM

You guys, the Abramson Steele Dossier thread gives the SMOKING GUN! It's not getting enough notice!

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/995853600554405889.html

I know it's hard to follow, but please do follow it. Because it answers all the Russia questions and makes all the connections.

It has been posted here a few times, but I'm posting it again. Because it should become a bible to all of us!

Steele's dossier says Putin gave Trump a brokerage fee from the sale of 19% of Rosneft—Russia's oil giant. Today @MichaelAvenatti said a top agent of QIA—which bought the Rosneft stock—was secretly at Trump Tower 48 hours after the sale.
Russia signs Rosneft deal with Qatar, Glencore

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2/ @MichaelAvenatti says the man below—meeting with Michael Cohen and Michael Flynn at Trump Tower—is Ahmed Al-Rumaihi, the head of Qatar Investments (a $100 billion division of sovereign wealth fund Qatar Investment Authority). QIA bought 19.5% of Rosneft on December 10, 2016.

3/ It has been assumed that—if the Steele Dossier's intel is accurate—the reason the Dossier says the Rosneft sale was of 19% but the amount of Rosneft bought was 19.5% is that the additional 0.5% was transferred to Trump as a brokerage fee. A 0.5% cut would be over $282 million.

4/ @MichaelAvenatti further directs our attention to a claim made by Al-Rumaihi to a third party—attested to under oath by that third party—to the effect that Al-Rumaihi had previously *successfully* bribed Michael Flynn, Trump's top national security advisor during the campaign.


And it goes on. In jaw dropping detail.

I can't figure out why this is not the big headline in every media source, and the lead story in every newscast!

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Reply You guys, the Abramson Steele Dossier thread gives the SMOKING GUN! It's not getting enough notice! (Original post)
Squinch Tuesday OP
BigmanPigman Tuesday #1
Squinch Tuesday #5
BigmanPigman Tuesday #11
Squinch Tuesday #13
BigmanPigman Tuesday #15
DemocracyMouse Tuesday #22
BigmanPigman Tuesday #24
sweetroxie Wednesday #50
PatSeg Wednesday #52
hkp11 Tuesday #28
triron Tuesday #31
kacekwl Tuesday #17
oasis Tuesday #2
uponit7771 Tuesday #3
Squinch Tuesday #7
uponit7771 Tuesday #8
Squinch Tuesday #12
uponit7771 Tuesday #16
kacekwl Tuesday #19
Wellstone ruled Tuesday #4
Hoyt Tuesday #6
Squinch Tuesday #9
Hoyt Tuesday #38
Squinch Tuesday #39
Hoyt Tuesday #40
Achilleaze Tuesday #10
Scurrilous Tuesday #14
sheshe2 Tuesday #18
MontanaMama Tuesday #20
Alethia Merritt Tuesday #21
Squinch Tuesday #23
ancianita Tuesday #25
Glorfindel Tuesday #26
Bernardo de La Paz Tuesday #27
triron Tuesday #44
Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #47
saidsimplesimon Tuesday #29
Squinch Tuesday #36
saidsimplesimon Saturday #53
Roland99 Tuesday #30
BobTheSubgenius Tuesday #32
Duppers Tuesday #33
Duppers Tuesday #35
Squinch Tuesday #37
triron Tuesday #34
R B Garr Tuesday #41
WhiteTara Tuesday #42
Squinch Tuesday #43
blue-wave Wednesday #45
triron Wednesday #46
sellitman Wednesday #48
blaze Wednesday #49
heaven05 Wednesday #51

Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:33 PM

1. The dossier is accurate and Mueller is using it as a guide.

Just because it isn't on the daily news cycle doesn't mean anything really. People want exciting news and this isn't ratings-worthy.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #1)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:35 PM

5. It's complicated. It feels like there are a bazillion arms to it, but once I spent some time

with it, it answered all the questions about what is happening, why it is happening, and just what a load of trouble we are in.

But because it can't be boiled down to a sound bite, it's going to be hard to get it in front of the majority of Americans' eyes. Which really needs to happen.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #5)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:40 PM

11. I downloaded it the day it was released

(through Buzzfeed I think) and told all my family and friends to as well. There is so much information and it is so condensed it is hard to read and comprehend. I need someone to explain it to me. I think Avenatti is sort of doing that with a tiny part of it. I don't know how Steele was able to gather, synthesize and report so much info accurately and in a relatively short time.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #11)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:46 PM

13. I think a graphic would be easier to understand than the tweets, but I'm not good at graphics.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #13)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:48 PM

15. That Is a great idea!

I am an artist and visual learner. I wish someone could do this for me (and those like me).

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #15)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:35 PM

22. We're all visual - even text is visual. (New times requires new media theory)

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Response to DemocracyMouse (Reply #22)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:37 PM

24. You know what I mean...

charts, graphs, etc. I was also a teacher and most people do comprehend ideas and information better if there is a visual component.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #24)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:11 AM

50. I don't. I see a chart and my brain goes down.

Words and concepts are much better for me. But it takes all kinds.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #24)

Wed May 16, 2018, 10:26 AM

52. I agree

I love graphs and charts, but right now everyone seems to be on constant overload. It is really hard to absorb it all, but I keep trying.

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #15)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:58 PM

28. Here is the visual graphic...see in the DU thread

[link:https://upload.democraticunderground.com/100210593859|


Here is another 2017 article about Rosneft - that provides details of the Rosneft deal and graphics:
[link:https://thesternfacts.com/trump-russia-dossier-decoded-yes-there-really-was-a-massive-oil-deal-e33370349b67|

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Response to BigmanPigman (Reply #11)

Tue May 15, 2018, 06:34 PM

31. Steele is not like corporate media.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #5)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:12 PM

17. Because those who should be booking themselves on every cable news show

every talk show posting on every social media outlet are not. Wonder why ? I hear plenty regarding illegal FISA applications, Obama spy in the White house, etc.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:33 PM

2. Well, K and R then.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:34 PM

3. "MichaelAvenatti says" while I trust him more than Benedict Donald I'd rather have more solid proof

... that Red Don or his crew was paid the money than someones word

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:36 PM

7. At the link, there are photos to back up what Avenatti said.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #7)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:39 PM

8. I'm questioning the payments not the associations, Traitor Trump is associated with a lot of thugs

... but that's not illegal.

We need to see bank records etc like he had with Cohen's accounts

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #8)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:44 PM

12. I get what you are saying. However, a ten minute "hiya" on a tarmac between Bill and Loretta

was the lead story in the republican news silo for a month.

These meetings in trump tower, and their timing, make their purpose pretty obvious. I agree we need the financial records for a conviction, but we should be pushing this story so no one can forget it or deny it.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #12)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:56 PM

16. +1

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Response to Squinch (Reply #12)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:15 PM

19. +1000

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:35 PM

4. This is the smoking gun.

Our lame ass Media will not go there. Ratings is all they want. David Corn has gone there and no one noticed. Okay,move to the next block.

Remember what Feinstein said,when Trump either sells his Properties or accumulates a certain amount of money,he is gone.

500 million China Dollars for Indonesian Casino Resort,Figgen Thief.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:36 PM

6. It may be jaw-dropping for us, but the latest meme by white wingers

is that there would be no dossier if Clinton hadn’t funded it. In other words, they don’t really care what trump may have done. That’s been the problem all along. I’m afraid that as long as trump is deporting immigrants, bashing Blacks, criticizing “liberals,” etc., he won’t pay unless they get his kids.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #6)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:40 PM

9. Maybe I am naive, but I still believe those who don't care are in the minority. The rest of voters

consist of us, who are appalled, and a large contingent who are getting on with their lives and who don't follow it closely. I really believe that if those people got what this information is telling us, they'd become a lot more vocal against the idiot republican president and his mafia and their takeover of our country.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #9)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:27 PM

38. That minority got trump elected, and they will vote for him again when it comes

down to it. Wish it were not true.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #38)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:31 PM

39. I know. But thats all the more reason for us to try to wake up the drowsy.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #39)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:32 PM

40. Agree. Stay Woke.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:40 PM

10. republicans sold out America - betrayal and treason against the USA

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 04:47 PM

14. K&R

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:13 PM

18. Dear Goddess.

Bookmarking your thread for the link to reread it. It is hard to follow, this has more arms than an octopus.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:18 PM

20. Bookmarking your thread

to read when I have some mama time later tonight. Thank you for posting this again - we all need to keep shouting about this.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:34 PM

21. The media has to appeal to the lowest common denominator in thinking. They will only

report on things they believe their audience and viewers will be able to follow. The dossier is too complicated. The only way to get this out there for maximum attention is to get Rachel to be able to use four consecutive shows to break it all down.

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Response to Alethia Merritt (Reply #21)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:37 PM

23. I was thinking the same. One of her introductions to explain each of the octopus arms.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:38 PM

25. If it points to the evidence that meets the threshhold of treason, we'll find out.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:46 PM

26. K&R n/t

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 05:48 PM

27. I and others were writing about this 13 and 14 months ago:

Glad people are writing. Please write more.

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10141749937
Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » Putin awards medals to bu...

Mon Apr 10, 2017
Bernardo de La Paz (23,444 posts)

Putin awards medals to buyers of Rosneft stake
Source: Reuters

Russian President Vladimir Putin awarded state medals to executives with the Qatari investment fund, Swiss-based commodities trading firm Glencore and Italian bank Intesa Sanpaolo, according to a decree published on Monday.

The Qatar Investment Authority and Glencore bought a 19.5 stake in Russian oil giant Rosneft for more than 10 billion euros in December, and Intesa bank was involved in organizing the deal.

The executives were awarded the medals for their "contribution to strengthening cooperation with Russia," according to the text of the decree.

The Rosneft stake sale was the biggest privatization deal in Russia since the 1990s. But a range of offshore companies was used in the transaction, the full identities of the stake's beneficial owners remain unknown, and the source of 2.2 billion euros in funding for the deal is unclear.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-oil-rosneft-sale-idUSKBN17C1RO


19.5% stake, but 0.5% of that was to be commission for Carter Page to "broker" the deal (according to earlier reports from elsewhere):

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1



https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10141681192
Sat Jan 28, 2017
sabra (29,834 posts)

Mystery death of ex-KGB chief linked to MI6 spy's dossier on Donald Trump

Fri Mar 24, 2017
LaydeeBug (10,291 posts)

RussiaGate blows WIDE OPEN in Abrahamson report: High Crimes and Misdemeanors by Trump, Sessions.

http://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/3/23/1646686/-RussiaGate-blows-WIDE-OPEN-in-Abrahamson-report-High-crimes-and-misdemeanors-by-Trump-Sessions

In a stunning tweetstorm this evening, columnist and reporter Seth Abrahamson (Huffington Post, Dallas Morning News, Seattle Times, Washington Post) laid out all the details on the Russia-Trump connection. And folks, this is impeachment territory, and imprisonment territory, for the highest officials in the United States.



Fri Mar 24, 2017
Bernardo de La Paz (23,444 posts)
96. Russian oil shares AND the Presidency. Not "for". The "for" is tRump policy action favoring Russia.


Fri Mar 24, 2017
womanofthehills (3,741 posts)
35. A somewhat similar story from business insider a month ago

A dossier with unverified claims about President Donald Trump's ties to Russia contained allegations that Igor Sechin, the CEO of Russia's state oil company, offered former Trump ally Carter Page and his associates the brokerage of a 19% stake in the company in exchange for the lifting of US sanctions on Russia.

http://www.businessinsider.com/carter-page-trump-russia-igor-sechin-dossier-2017-1

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #27)

Tue May 15, 2018, 11:22 PM

44. Awesome post! thank you for this essay.

MSM still resisting going there. Drives me crazy. Hope Avenatti gives them a little kick in the butt.

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Response to triron (Reply #44)

Wed May 16, 2018, 06:15 AM

47. Thank you. But Reuters, sabra, LaydeeBug and womanofthehills deserve most of the credit. . . . nt

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 06:11 PM

29. Squinch, patience

is not in my character. Many of US know the day draws near for revelation. The legal variety not the spiritual.

The Honorable Mr. Mueller is masterful. He will act swiftly when he decides it is time. It will be with surgical procession. Just the way he has performed since accepting this thankless task. As always, just imo

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Response to saidsimplesimon (Reply #29)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:04 PM

36. I know, you are right. But my greatest fear is that

Mueller will lay the whole thing out and the republican controlled government will do nothing about it. If we prime the public by making them conscious of these things before Mueller's report, the republicans won't be able to squash it.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #36)

Sat May 19, 2018, 02:26 PM

53. the repugs know about it

they practice willful ignorance. Justice is best served cold, GOTV, bury the Rs in 2018, thank you.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 06:21 PM

30. laMe$M

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 06:43 PM

32. It has the potential to be the ONLY news story for a while.

What could possibly be more news-worthy than this?

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 06:59 PM

33. I emailed that out yesterday.

Not one reply.
I think people are skeptical unless they see it in broadcast pablum news.

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Response to Duppers (Reply #33)

Tue May 15, 2018, 07:44 PM

35. Ok. Was just told I'm a conspiracy theorist.

Was told to look up Seth Abramson on Wiki, which calls him a conspiracy theorist. This was by a dem too. Sigh. Until it's in broadcast news, it's CT.


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Response to Duppers (Reply #33)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:06 PM

37. I wish somehow we could reduce it to a soundbite.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 07:36 PM

34. knr

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 09:47 PM

41. Thanks Squinch!

Bookmarked, this is huge and is history in the making.

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Tue May 15, 2018, 10:48 PM

42. Fortunately, Rachel agreed and it was a big segment tonight.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #42)

Tue May 15, 2018, 10:56 PM

43. Oh, excellent! I DVRd it!

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 12:02 AM

45. This deal was for

10.2 billion euro. In U.S. dollars, that's approaching $13 billion. This kind of money can do a lot in Russia. The whole deal IMHO, helps keep Putin in power. No wonder why he just won "re-election", if you can call it that.

Russia's economy depends on it's natural resources. The Russian economy has slowed due to falling oil prices. Now Putin has another breath of fresh air thanks to his orange friend. Treachery, pure treachery. Nothing in this deal helps America. Not one stinking bit. In fact, it undermines America. But oh, up next we should care about China bleeding all those jobs!! Outrageous!!!

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 12:40 AM

46. kick for visibility

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 06:34 AM

48. But her emails. N/T

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 08:03 AM

49. K&R nt

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Response to Squinch (Original post)

Wed May 16, 2018, 09:44 AM

51. MSM

is trying to keep ameriKKKa great by not telling the truth about our leadership now. They are on a mission trying to "normalize a racist potus and A.G. and cover up how this administration has created their very own swamp in D.C. full of snakes, vultures and all manner of racist stink and scummy human beings.

The MSM in this trump era, never really has told the truth about this corrupt, depraved pervert potus and the GOP. Yet when it came to HRC-BENGHAZI-EMAILS AND a truly good family man and POTUS, President Barack Obama, their 'truth' was splashed all over the screen and in print.

This country is irredeemably racist and WON'T EVER recover from its deplorable mistake at allowing this POS potus to assume the presidency of ameriKKKa.

All ryan, mcconnell, sessions and trump have shown me is how hatefully racist RW ameriKKKans truly are and has truly been since the beginning. The people in charge now would have been the types that perpetrated genocide on the 1st Americans, used forced slavery to get the capitalist engine running and who went to war against americans to keep that slavery in force.

With trump in charge, I now know the calibre of white man/woman that created this country and the festering hate that is their legacy.

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