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Fri May 11, 2018, 02:34 PM

Why do John Fugelsang, Cenk Uyger and other "progressives" go on the air

and complain about Rump?


If memory serves, they and MANY more I wont mention spent AS MUCH time criticizing Hillary as they did rump during the campaign BOTH during the primaries AND AFTER.

I mean if you didnt do everything humanly possible that entire time to stop the Nazis, your complaining about them is kind of annoying

I dont listen to either of them anymore other than when Stephanie has Fugelsang on her show. Stephanie agrees with me but cant say it to John's face but tries to in subtle ways.

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Reply Why do John Fugelsang, Cenk Uyger and other "progressives" go on the air (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 OP
Me. May 2018 #1
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #2
Me. May 2018 #9
Exotica May 2018 #18
Me. May 2018 #21
NurseJackie May 2018 #20
LuvLoogie May 2018 #3
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #4
RockaFowler May 2018 #5
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #7
Dave Starsky May 2018 #14
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #15
Dave Starsky May 2018 #22
LexVegas May 2018 #6
wonkwest May 2018 #8
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #10
wonkwest May 2018 #13
NCTraveler May 2018 #11
fescuerescue May 2018 #12
Nanjeanne May 2018 #16
Eliot Rosewater May 2018 #17
Nanjeanne May 2018 #19

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:37 PM

1. Well For One Thing

Cenk isn't a progressive....

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:37 PM

2. But dont most progressives think he is?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:45 PM

9. Well They Used To

But since his move to RT I think the cat has been coming out of the bag

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Response to Me. (Reply #9)

Fri May 11, 2018, 05:03 PM

18. Cenk does not have a show in RT. Never has.

 

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Response to Exotica (Reply #18)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:46 PM

21. I sTand Corrected

but given their close association, I may be forgiven

Cenk Uygur Tells RT Anchor That Her Network’s More Tolerant than MSNBC

““CNN has lost so much credibility all across the world because everybody knows they cater to the government,” Uygur said. “You criticized the Russian actions in Crimea, you’re still on RT. I criticized the Obama administration and the U.S. government on MSNBC, I’m no longer on MSNBC.”
“So, who has the freer media?” he concluded."

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/cenk-uygur-suggests-to-rt-anchor-that-her-networks-more-tolerant-than-msnbc/

“Ok, I'm done RT'ing. I have to get the show ready today, but thank you!!! I appreciate all of the love from across the world and here in US!”




“That’s not journalism’: Young Turks' Cenk Uygur slams CNN for declaring Clinton Democrat nominee”

https://www.rt.com/usa/345842-cnn-uygur-sanders-cli

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #2)

Fri May 11, 2018, 07:10 PM

20. Amazing, isn't it?

And I'll just leave it at that.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:39 PM

3. I don't recall Fugelsang ripping on Hillary or Dems

like Cenk does.

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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #3)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:41 PM

4. Cenk is worse but I absolutely recall John doing it.

But so did many others, some of whom I am still listening to or respecting and some I dont.

My issue is ADMIT you were WRONG and STOP doing it with the current bunch and I will be fine.

I have even RECENTLY heard Stephanie bit her tongue talking to John, trying not to say what I am saying.

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Response to LuvLoogie (Reply #3)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:41 PM

5. Correct

Cenk still blasts Dems today

Fugelsang was a Hillary Supporter the whole time if I'm not mistaken

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Response to RockaFowler (Reply #5)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:42 PM

7. No, he wasnt.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #7)

Fri May 11, 2018, 03:08 PM

14. Fugelsang? Yes, he was.

He and Stephanie Miller were never anything but supportive of Hillary, and repeatedly stated how stupid it was to sit out the election.

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Response to Dave Starsky (Reply #14)

Fri May 11, 2018, 04:23 PM

15. Oh no, a simple google search and you can see he was supporting only one person

until he had no choice

especially on Twitter

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #15)

Sat May 12, 2018, 09:40 AM

22. Okay, I Googled it. I have no idea what you're talking about.

Unless you're referring to his Tweets insisting that Republicans hold Hillary to the same lofty standards that they hold themselves. You do understand that that's sarcasm, correct?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:42 PM

6. Cenk is an opportunist. nt

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:43 PM

8. Watch Cenk on 2016 election night

 

It's interesting. I was a bit like, "Why are you pissed, asshole? You undermined her as much as anyone else."

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Response to wonkwest (Reply #8)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:46 PM

10. I didnt see that but I believe you...Everyday I participate in a youtube chat

of an online progressive (sigh) talk show and the host and many of the chatters were HRC bashers.

It infuriates me to hear them complain about rump and NEVER take responsibility.

I am so sick of it.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #10)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:56 PM

13. It's on YouTube

 

I just roll my eyes.

I wasn't the biggest Hillary fan. Far from, but she was our last barricade against fascism and chaos.

At that point, you shut the fuck up and pretend she's the awesomest person in human history.

And now we have all this.

Much sigh.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:48 PM

11. Money.

 

Like in politics, they have a base. Their message is directed toward them. Their base holds an ideology that can best be described as oppositional. It’s why Sanders didn’t help Clinton in the general. His base would have evaporated.

I’m not as familiar with Fuglesangs work.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 02:48 PM

12. Same reason 98% of people are on the air, are on the air

To get exposure. Generally to advance a career.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri May 11, 2018, 04:27 PM

16. Don't watch Uyger but Fugelsang was a Bernie supporter who always supported Hillary after primary.

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Response to Nanjeanne (Reply #16)

Fri May 11, 2018, 04:30 PM

17. Begrudgingly and make it VERY hard to be PRO Hillary for a long time

In that these people influenced many others with their conversations which I cant discuss here I guess.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #17)

Fri May 11, 2018, 06:28 PM

19. Really? I listened to him almost every day and never sensed he did it begrudgingly. In fact, he

talked quite a bit about how he and Stephanie could support different candidates in the primary but once the candidate was nominated - how they both were committed to standing behind the Democratic nominee. I must have missed those shows that you are referring to somehow.

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