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Doodley

(9,048 posts)
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:07 AM May 2018

Has Trump turned America into a rogue state? If so, what should other nations do about it?

Free Dictionary definition: rogue state - a state that does not respect other states in its international actions.


A few examples of the disrespect that America has recently shown other nations:


Threatening other nations with sanctions if it doesn't do what America wants - most recently against Germany, France and UK regarding Iran.

Threatening "fire and fury like the world has never seen" against North Korea.

Pulling out of the Paris Agreement without providing any detailed explanation.

Childish Twitter attacks against other international leaders, for example the Mayor of London (who is Muslim).

Wanting to ban all Muslims from entering USA.

Lecturing other nations about NATO contributions/defense spending.

Calling other nations "shitholes."

Threatening other nations who don't support USA Football World Cup bid for 2026.

Stating a trade war with other nations.

Calling Mexicans "rapists and murderers."


Do you think America is now a "rogue state?" And if so, what, if anything, should other nations do about it?"

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Has Trump turned America into a rogue state? If so, what should other nations do about it? (Original Post) Doodley May 2018 OP
Other nations will turn their backs on America as tRump continues to turn America the RKP5637 May 2018 #1
which Mr. Putin will be very happy bdamomma May 2018 #2
What always makes me anxious are the number of damn fools in the US that support Trump and the RKP5637 May 2018 #6
they are cut from a different cloth bdamomma May 2018 #11
Yep, I think that's true for a certain percentage that got swept up in the fanfare. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #12
they were bdamomma May 2018 #13
Yep, one of the all time greats. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #16
and Mr. Putin bdamomma May 2018 #17
If Iran and Israel get into some type of war, the US is obligated to get involved RKP5637 May 2018 #18
I thought tRump bdamomma May 2018 #19
So unpredictable because even he doesn't know what he says/thinks minute by minute. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #21
More of a pariah among nations world wide wally May 2018 #3
Yep, also if I lived in another country I doubt I would ever vacation or study in RKP5637 May 2018 #14
I am an ex pat bdamomma May 2018 #20
We've been there for a while (anybody remember Dimson Bush and his illegal war?). shanny May 2018 #4
I don't know if I would classify us a "rogue" state yet Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #5
Well said!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #8
Our allies will wait this out...hoping that the ship will be righted. If this type keeps "winning" Kirk Lover May 2018 #7
Agreed. Proud Liberal Dem May 2018 #9
Yep, they are watching and the clock is ticking. n/t RKP5637 May 2018 #15
realize like china has, they can buy goods they used to buy from us elsewhere dembotoz May 2018 #10

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
1. Other nations will turn their backs on America as tRump continues to turn America the
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:10 AM
May 2018

opposite of what it once was.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
2. which Mr. Putin will be very happy
Thu May 10, 2018, 09:39 AM
May 2018

with to have us off the stage.

We have a treasonous POS squatting in the WH.

But you notice how tRump loves dictators and is isolating countries which used to be our allies, they will go it alone, and we will be shunned. Very dangerous for us right now.

America 1st???? no we will be isolated, this is not very insightful not for 2018.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
6. What always makes me anxious are the number of damn fools in the US that support Trump and the
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:07 AM
May 2018

crime organization.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
17. and Mr. Putin
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:43 PM
May 2018

saw the divide and capitalized on it, get a jerk elected and take down the US and make Russia great again. Unbelievable or should I say very unfortunate.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
18. If Iran and Israel get into some type of war, the US is obligated to get involved
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:50 PM
May 2018

under NATO? Right?

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
19. I thought tRump
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:57 PM
May 2018

was not a fan of NATO, but we know how tRump likes to change the narrative especially when Mueller and this Michael Cohen situation is getting hotter.

RKP5637

(67,088 posts)
14. Yep, also if I lived in another country I doubt I would ever vacation or study in
Thu May 10, 2018, 01:38 PM
May 2018

America the way it is today. There are plenty of great places in the world to be.

bdamomma

(63,803 posts)
20. I am an ex pat
Thu May 10, 2018, 02:02 PM
May 2018

and with all this happening I don't think I would not be in any great hurry to move back either.

What is that saying “My country, right or wrong; if right, to be kept right; and if wrong, to be set right.”

But then again, if push comes to shove.

 

shanny

(6,709 posts)
4. We've been there for a while (anybody remember Dimson Bush and his illegal war?).
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:02 AM
May 2018

But certainly now it is more extreme and more open.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,396 posts)
5. I don't know if I would classify us a "rogue" state yet
Thu May 10, 2018, 10:04 AM
May 2018

but our role on the world stage is certainly being diminished in a big way bit by bit and we are starting to be ignored by European countries. For all of the right-wing Republican blather about President Obama making the US look "weak" and "irrelevant", nobody could actually make us look worse than Donald Trump has so far. George W. Bush got the ball rolling on making us a pariah state with only a brief interlude with Obama where we were respected again.

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
7. Our allies will wait this out...hoping that the ship will be righted. If this type keeps "winning"
Thu May 10, 2018, 11:09 AM
May 2018

we are in trouble.

dembotoz

(16,785 posts)
10. realize like china has, they can buy goods they used to buy from us elsewhere
Thu May 10, 2018, 12:04 PM
May 2018

do you continue to shop at the store that treats you like shit?

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