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Sat May 5, 2018, 04:11 PM

Trump aides hired Israeli spies to discredit Obama officials with 'dirty ops' on Iran arms deal

Trump aides hired Israeli spies to try to discredit Obama officials (including @brhodes) who helped negotiate Iran deal

Revealed: Trump team hired spy firm for ‘dirty ops’ on Iran arms deal
Israeli agency told to find incriminating material on Obama diplomats who negotiated deal with Tehran








https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/may/05/trump-team-hired-spy-firm-dirty-ops-iran-nuclear-deal?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Reply Trump aides hired Israeli spies to discredit Obama officials with 'dirty ops' on Iran arms deal (Original post)
kpete May 2018 OP
dalton99a May 2018 #1
Kirk Lover May 2018 #2
brush May 2018 #38
world wide wally May 2018 #61
Freethinker65 May 2018 #3
Wwcd May 2018 #4
Me. May 2018 #6
George II May 2018 #26
uponit7771 May 2018 #47
Me. May 2018 #5
Shipwack May 2018 #14
Me. May 2018 #18
Mosby May 2018 #31
Me. May 2018 #42
DoctorJoJo May 2018 #25
Me. May 2018 #41
DemocracyMouse May 2018 #49
global1 May 2018 #7
politicaljunkie41910 May 2018 #34
Turbineguy May 2018 #8
spanone May 2018 #9
Botany May 2018 #10
malaise May 2018 #11
Wounded Bear May 2018 #54
duforsure May 2018 #12
tblue37 May 2018 #24
NBachers May 2018 #13
Cha May 2018 #15
kpete May 2018 #17
Cha May 2018 #20
karynnj May 2018 #30
KY_EnviroGuy May 2018 #56
Civic Justice May 2018 #16
brush May 2018 #39
smirkymonkey May 2018 #57
barbtries May 2018 #19
lunatica May 2018 #21
duforsure May 2018 #22
Ilsa May 2018 #28
Stonepounder May 2018 #33
Shrike47 May 2018 #23
roscoeroscoe May 2018 #55
Iliyah May 2018 #27
GoCubsGo May 2018 #58
SergeStorms May 2018 #29
TrollBuster9090 May 2018 #32
erpowers May 2018 #35
Iliyah May 2018 #37
Civic Justice May 2018 #46
rzemanfl May 2018 #36
S.E. TN Liberal May 2018 #40
liberalla May 2018 #43
superpatriotman May 2018 #44
stevenleser May 2018 #45
Caliman73 May 2018 #52
workinclasszero May 2018 #48
BobTheSubgenius May 2018 #50
Name removed May 2018 #51
spanone May 2018 #53
lark May 2018 #59
Scurrilous May 2018 #60
Grins May 2018 #62

Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:17 PM

1. Kick

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:18 PM

2. WHAT.

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #2)

Sat May 5, 2018, 07:15 PM

38. Treason 101.

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Response to brush (Reply #38)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:16 PM

61. Again

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:21 PM

3. Hey Devin....check this out!!

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Response to Freethinker65 (Reply #3)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:31 PM

4. And this, "Hey Devin! This is up in your district!!"

 

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:35 PM

6. Brilliant

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:57 PM

26. Bazinga!

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Response to Wwcd (Reply #4)

Sat May 5, 2018, 10:48 PM

47. +1

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:35 PM

5. Start Your Own War BiBi

and the Iranians will kick your butt and only then will you finally be sorry for all you have done to secure your place as Prime Minister for life. Truly despicable and on par with Comrade Trump.

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Response to Me. (Reply #5)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:16 PM

14. We would be dragged into the war too...

There are way too many influential and powerful people in the US that believe in unconditional support for Israel, no matter what.

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Response to Shipwack (Reply #14)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:28 PM

18. Possibly

But Comrade Trump, ever concerned about his deplorables knows they don't want another and while he & BiBi sent out investigators to find dirt on Kerry and those who helped make the deal they also know they are on thin ice otherwise he would've canceled the deal already. And shouldn't BiBi be in jail already, what's taking them so long,

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Response to Me. (Reply #18)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:27 PM

31. a war between Iran and Israel wouldn't even be a contest

The biggest risk would be Russia jumping in to help Iran.

Regardless, it's not going to happen.

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Response to Mosby (Reply #31)

Sat May 5, 2018, 08:05 PM

42. I Hope Not

But Netanyahu needs a distraction. And I wouldn't discount the Iranians offhand.

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Response to Me. (Reply #5)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:56 PM

25. This Is Why I Call Him Whatayahoo!

 

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Response to DoctorJoJo (Reply #25)

Sat May 5, 2018, 08:04 PM

41. Perfect

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Response to Me. (Reply #41)

Sat May 5, 2018, 11:13 PM

49. Net a yahoo?

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 04:37 PM

7. If The Trump Team Is Up To Crap Like This To Discredit Obama's ....

diplomatic team that negotiated the Iran deal - then there is no doubt in my mind that they conspired/colluded with the Russians to steal the 2016 election.

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Response to global1 (Reply #7)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:54 PM

34. If it comes down to a credibility contest, Trump comes in last with Bibi Netanyahu, a close second.

President Obama's credibility has never come under question. Netanyahu got caught in another lie this past week when he put on his dog and pony show about the documents the Israelis said they had stolen from Iran and allowed one of their Props to go unchecked that said that Iran HAS a robust Nuclear Program and when called out on it, changed it to HAD a robust Nuclear Program and chalked it up to an "OOPS" moment when he knew he had done it on purpose.

Time to pick a president who will reign in Netanyahu or cut off the $3.8 Billion of foreign military aide we give to Israel each year. The United States shouldn't be a willing participant in playing the role of being Bibi's bitch when he lies to stir up shit.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:04 PM

8. Trump people are learning

how to fuck up the US from the Russians.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:06 PM

9. the only way trump plays is dirty.

this is war.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:07 PM

10. Trump wants to be a leader like Putin

The man is a traitor to America.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:08 PM

11. At some point someone will call this

TREASON

Lock him Up!!!

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Response to malaise (Reply #11)

Sun May 6, 2018, 02:23 AM

54. So I guess now Trump has his own "Steele Dossier"

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:12 PM

12. I think,

They'll find this as a pattern of getting dirt on many of his opposition, maybe including illegally getting it for him to use against them with. Like he's done in the FBI , and other departments. They get a mole to help them get dirt and to undermine Democrats with. Wonder how much Russian helpers have been helping him get information on others also, like in Congress. It'll all become exposed if he is. Shows how corrupt he is too.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #12)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:55 PM

24. According to the Steele dossier, the Russians fed Trump oppo information to use against

his opponents, so this is nothing unusual for him.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:14 PM

13. Try to tell me that Netanyahu knew nothing about this.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:19 PM

15. I can only imagine how President Obama and

John Kerry, and all those who worked for so long on the Iran Deal.. feel about this.

Right.. trump didn't collude with Russians to steal the election in 2016.

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Response to Cha (Reply #15)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:27 PM

17. The sitting President -- not a campaign -- hired a firm to find dirt on the personal lives of former

Who paid for this?? I know people are cynical about Washington, but, no, this is NOT how things work. This is Nixonian, pure Watergate stuff.

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Response to kpete (Reply #17)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:44 PM

20. Thank you for this, kpete.. I would think that

it would make President Obama and all to be even more determined to get this filthy monsters out of power.


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Response to kpete (Reply #17)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:25 PM

30. Not to mention, Trump has the intelligence agencies that could

investigate had any of these people done anything illegal.

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Response to kpete (Reply #17)

Sun May 6, 2018, 05:11 AM

56. Sheldon Adelson, perhaps?

This also has the distinct smell of Bolton to me.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:26 PM

16. Trump and His Organization should be charged with "Global Treason"

 

in the aims to undermine and seek means to destabilize agreements made for Expanding Peace and reducing Nuclear Proliferation.

" Rhodes said: “I was not aware, though sadly am not surprised. I would say that digging up dirt on someone for carrying out their professional responsibilities in their positions as White House officials is a chillingly authoritarian thing to do.”


When someone with the broad level of ignorance of Trump when it comes to Global Governance as it relates to Individual Respective International Nations, the man should get the stiffest penalty for Treason. It should further indite the Republican Congressional Members who supported this madness.

How America could allow such vile evil into the White House, is an insult to All and Everything American Values Stand to Support. It may take us a very long time to regain the "International Respect" that has been damaged by this greed driven buffoon. He along with Republican have tarnished America, as if it was not enough for the disgrace they engaged to promote and support during the Obama Administration. "This bigoted and bias, race mad Right Wing "white man" Administration, represents everything that America has long fought to disband. It is a representation of the centuries and decades of "white man madness" that damaged many nations for many many decades around the globe, in his "avarice" mentality, driven to chase greed by any means.

The best that needs to become of this madness's is the disintegration of that delusional white superiority ignorance, and destroy this continual madness of white privilege.
Thank goodness Nation after Nation is becoming stronger and no longer willing to play-into the Right Wing "white man superiority madness", and Nation after Nation is becoming to recognize and disregard every aspect of the historical madness of Right Wing white man privilege.

They have continually led to nothing but warmongering and greed madness, which both have embroiled other nations is their madness, and 'fleeced other nations" over and over and over, every time there is a Republican Administration.

Right Wing White Males in America still chase the past, as in the 'Post World War II" highlight, with no clear understanding that it was as much an Allied Victory as it was an American Victory. But.. Fact is... the world is not the world of the 1940's...
Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan should have made it clear that America's money and vast military, cannot squash the will of people in foreign lands. Nor can it over take the collaborations that Foreign Nations have, when they are backed by China and Russia... America is carrying 20 Trillion of Debt, and a worn down and overly cycled military into conflicts while it has no sensibilities to support and promote 1st tier VA support of Troops.
Add in the political madness of insulting every department and Division of our Governance System, and promoting hate and madness into the general American Public. Even the exposure of the lack of ethical principles and moral stability as demonstrated over and over by the Right Wing White Evangelicals.

Many Nations truly detest the vile supported by Right Wing White Evangelicals and the Republican Congress. Nations know, this combination means no good to Global Nations. They are driven by money and the madness of trying to promote white superiority, and expecting white privilege. They may not put it in such simple terms, but in their analogies of what they are dealing with, it is not something other nations are willing to submit themselves to. None of the nation that got burned by following the America lead with the "Bond Sham and Scam" that COST too many Nations Trillions of Dollars they can never regain. Nations watch as the "oil chase grab" upon and against Iraq, put a bad taste in many nations palate when it comes to American Right Wing Administrations.
They watch the criminal history of Trump, play out over and over and demonstrate in every category that he is a common Thug, with a gangster mentality of a greed obsessed man, who thinks his white skin makes him superior; who has no respect of Governance Principles and Governance System and a full on Disregard for the Law, and has over and over insulted the Intelligence Community.
Trump and Republican operates like the historically detested Confederate States System. Israel and its continually "aggressive and incessant encroaching premise of function" is again not something supported by many nations. America people should have some concerns about Israel involvement in such a scheme by Trump.

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Response to Civic Justice (Reply #16)

Sat May 5, 2018, 07:38 PM

39. Wonderful post, defining trump and his ilk for the thug, white supremacist traitors...

they are.

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Response to Civic Justice (Reply #16)

Sun May 6, 2018, 06:14 AM

57. +1000

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:33 PM

19. jaw dropping.

i refuse to be surprised by anything this wanna be strong man does, but he can cause my jaw to drop in shock from time to time, and he does.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:45 PM

21. Do we really need another quagmire to get stuck in!?

Jesus! When are we going to get it?

Military aggression will be our undoing. Sigh...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:45 PM

22. This is treason,

And he and everyone involved should be held fully accountable and be held to the same laws as everyone else is. He is not above the rule of law.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #22)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:18 PM

28. Add this to the list of things to be investigated after we

Take back the House. My guess is that many of trump's people will be gone or in prison by the time we get to this one, but maybe we can get a few more stragglers swept up.

I agree. This smells like treason.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #28)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:44 PM

33. Unfortunately, we can investigate until we are blue in the face. We can even pass articles of

impeachment if we manage to take back the House. But there is absolutely no way we are going to be able to get 67 Democratic Senators, and since it take a 2/3 vote of the Senate to remove the President, the GOP will prevent impeachment. The GOP has joined in Trump's desire to destroy the USA we have grown up in and replace it with a dictatorship dedicated to making the rich richer and screwing everyone else.

We have to pray that somehow we manage to take the Senate as well, just to prevent Trump from getting more Swamp Creatures into his Cabinet, head up agencies, and sit on the SOCTUS.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 05:46 PM

23. The key question, to me, is who paid for this? If it's taxpayer money, it's theft IMO.

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Response to Shrike47 (Reply #23)

Sun May 6, 2018, 05:01 AM

55. Probably

The campaign slush fund

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:12 PM

27. Leaks, leaks, leaks

The United States of America is in deep doo doo. The worlds Intelligence Community is far more competent than ours. Plus, t-rump and cronies gives heads up on ICs to Putin.

Get them out! Vote!

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #27)

Sun May 6, 2018, 10:46 AM

58. Actually, our intelligence community is quite competent.

It is the people at the top, who either ignore their intelligence, or outright lie about it to suit their own purposes. They are the ones who are incompetent, not the people who are out their risking their lives. Our intelligence community are the ones who discovered Trump's treason in the first place.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:23 PM

29. Dirty rotten bastard.

How many ways can I communicate the same sentiment, though? I've called Trump every name in the dictionary, and even made a few words up, but I'm still in need of new ways to describe the hate and contempt I feel for that sub-human piece of garbage.

Anything to discredit or erase the legacy of the Black Man. Just for spite and racism, and nothing more.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:42 PM

32. ITS A TRAP!

Make a fuss about this, and Trump-creatures will make a fuss about Fusion GPS hiring Christopher Steele (yet again).



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 06:55 PM

35. So Now We Know

So now we know why Donald Trump insisted that his New York residence had been tapped by President Obama. It was Donald Trump who was trying to find dirt on President Obama. We are getting more and more evidence that when Trump says someone did something he is actually the one who did it.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #35)

Sat May 5, 2018, 07:09 PM

37. That is how the Republican Party works.

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Response to erpowers (Reply #35)

Sat May 5, 2018, 10:45 PM

46. That has always been True of Racist White Bigot's for Centuries

 

"We are getting more and more evidence that when Trump says someone did something he is actually the one who did it."


Black people have been trying to open people's eyes to see this for centuries and decades when it comes to the racist and bigoted white men.

It's like those that came to America and called the Indian's Savages, time has proven "they are" the real savages!!!

When the (Money chasing material self measurement types) cannot find someone to enact savagery upon, they do it upon each other and will wipe out their entire family and go out and mass kill innocent people.

We see it in these Right Wing bigoted Young White Males, calling themselves INCEL's and the other hate groups, lusting to "harm and kill women and anyone else they can blame their condition upon" when truth is, its their own ignorance and idiocy and the delusions they should have 'everything in life given to them, by and through the labors of others. They are the forces of evil that have damaged this nation and many places around the world over and over and over, and now... time is turning where not only can they not 'get a free ride off of other, and abuse women at their whim, they can't deal with self responsibility to respect the humanity and dignity and individualism of others and they are void of knowing how to respect women.

Now ... women are avoiding some of them and women are not going to be used and abused, and they are speaking up, and exposing them more and more every day.
Trump is a prime example of the old white man ways of thinking he owns women and can possess her as his property and use her as a sex toy and kick her to the curb or buy her silence. For centuries he did not let her vote, she could not own property and he took her as nothing more than a vehicle to gain heir and a sex playmate, and when she aged, he had no concern for her, beyond how his fictional image would look if he dumped her. It was never about truly respecting her as an individual, because he saw her as "his possession". Women are tired of being distressed, abused and mistreated, long ago, he'd send her to a sanitarium, if she voiced her discontent or pump her with pills and claim any type of label of psychosis to distance himself. But now women are wise to the madness and she no longer needs his money to support herself.

He tried to ship the jobs away to ensure that she would need him, but she found a way to make it without him and his money, he shipped them away also, because he could not digest the concept of minorities gaining economic equilibrium... but even still he can't stand the fact that minorities are themselves resourceful and have been even when he was too blind to see it. He stole ideas from around the world and tried to claim them as his own, but today.. nations around the world are using their own ideas and if we note, Many nations are building for their people and growing, while here in America, his greed has made it impossible to even maintain the things built by previous generations. He has shown he will sell anything for "short term profit" , because his greed won't allow him to respect the investment to sustain legacy for the benefit of All Americans.
The nature of savagery shows in so many ways, and it is presence though-out, because of his savage mentality and gluttonous greed mentality.
This Nation is $20+ Trillion in Debt because a mass of white males want to hoard money, because they have no sense of self worth beyond it. He has screwed over the generation of young kids yet to be born, because his avarice is so ingrained, he has no concern to pay taxes to protect and support the nation and its future, all he knows is, to measure himself by how greedy he can present himself to be, by his claim of how much money he has. A Savage is a Savage, because they are of Savagery.

The times moves forward and more and more Liberal Minded Equality Respecting White People bond and meld with Multicultural people of this nation and the world, time will bring the bigoted and racist whites people to become the most despised being on the planet.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 07:09 PM

36. K&R. Typical Republicans in the Nixon, Reagan, Bush mold. Not surprised. n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 07:42 PM

40. That "vast right-wing conspiracy" is even bigger...

...than most people could imagine.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 09:13 PM

43. Doesn't having this leaked weaken his play to break or withdraw from the Iran nuclear deal?

Sure seeems like it should...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 09:20 PM

44. Kicked

Right in his fat ass

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 10:22 PM

45. Trump is already a more corrupt President than Nixon and Harding combined. And he's only 2 years in.

 

Corrupt to the core.

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Response to stevenleser (Reply #45)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:10 AM

52. While I agree in principle, I am not sure in practice.

I am not the up on Harding's activities, though I know that his administration was called one of the most corrupt in history.

We have to remember that Nixon sabotaged the peace treaty talks that were underway to end the Vietnam war. From 1969, when Nixon took over the presidency, to 1973 when the war officially ended for the US, more than 20,000 more Americans died in Vietnam, not to mention the multitude of Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians who died in the 5 years the war was unnecessarily prolonged.

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/06/nixon-vietnam-candidate-conspired-with-foreign-power-win-election-215461

Nixon also gave Roger Ailes his big start in politics, as well as Pat Buchanan, who were some of the architects of the right wing invasion of media that created the Fox News, right wing echo chamber we have today. People like Atwater thrived in the Nixon era using racial resentments to keep a Republican Party, who didn't really have any good ideas for the American public, from becoming a regional party and then fading into irrelevance. Nixon's use of racial and religious bigotry paved the way for Ronald Reagan's rise.

Trump is a piece of shit, but he is relatively incompetent when it comes to actually bringing his evil plans to complete fruition. If he had Nixon's smarts, we would really be in trouble. What we have right now is the result of a corporate media, that has more of a desire to maintain access to the halls of power, than to question how the government is responding to the needs of the people.

That said, Trump is probably the most personally corrupt person to hold the office. He is, as you say, corrupt to his core. He is just stupid and thinks that he can get things done with the same hack shit that he was able to get away with when he was a corrupt New York Real Estate scam artist. That will be his undoing.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sat May 5, 2018, 11:05 PM

48. Outright treason

 

That SOB should be locked up in Leavenworth awaiting trial now!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 12:32 AM

50. Is there a bar so low that they can't get under it?

Messing with the adults who are trying to get a nuclear regulation treaty to work. JHC F'ing appalling..

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:16 AM

53. Kick

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:03 PM

59. There is no low to which he won't go to create chaos and war or undo an Obama accomplishment.

there is literally not one shred of decency or goodness in that entire gross ugly corpulent body. He's 100% vile and evil, the first person I have ever said this about in my long life. Even GW had shreds of decency, but orange assface has exactly zero.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 01:06 PM

60. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Sun May 6, 2018, 03:18 PM

62. As if I needed another reason...

Over the decades I have moved from pro-Israel/anti-Palestinian, to anti-Likud, to anti Israel, and now to anti-Israeli.

Next Saturday (May 12th) is the decision-date on whether the U.S. should waive U.S. nuclear sanctions on Iran, and you-know-who is going to make that call. And right on cue, up pops Bibi Netanyahu trying to discredit the Iran nuclear deal.

Said the Israeli Haaretz.com:

"Bibi) missed only one thing: Crucial dates that could prove Iran has actually done anything in contravention of the (Iran nuclear agreement) since it was signed in 2015.

Extrapolating from the fact that Iran has continued to maintain and hide this nuclear archive, and that the same people mentioned in the files are still around, doesn’t necessarily mean there’s a “shadow” weapons program still going on. ...but Netanyahu offered no proof of that. What he had wasn’t a smoking gun, but a photograph of a smoking gun taken years ago. That flaw was so glaring as to render an incredible intelligence coup ...almost irrelevant and obsolete to Netanyahu’s current purpose."


And...

Netanyahu knows as much...(but) he still went ahead with his overblown and overhyped press conference because he knows that the man about to make the decision on the Iran deal will never in a million years be capable of explaining it."

Their werdz!

https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-great-show-glaring-flaw-3-takeaways-from-bibi-s-iran-lied-speech-1.6045586

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