Fri May 4, 2018, 01:35 PM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
The Trump & Rudy Show
It must be really uncomfortable to be Michael Cohen right now. That discomfort has to be increasing in intensity each and every day. I wonder what he is thinking about when he sees his wife and children. Do they talk about the day's news? Do they understand just how much trouble he is in? Does he?
If his wife watches the news, she probably thinks that his options are to either silently accept incarceration, to protect Donald Trump, or to cooperate with the federal investigators, with hopes of avoiding a lengthy prison sentence. She may even be saying this to him late at night, when his constant pacing about keeps her from sleeping. He cannot explain to her that there are factors he is unable to share with her. For she is, by definition, a “mafia wife,” unaware of the full nature of the trap Michael finally realizes he is in. Let's take a look at some of the dynamics that are just beneath the surface of what is being reported in the media. And, to be sure, most of the journalists and experts they speak to are aware of these issues. But, at this point, they are only able to toss out a few hints. For example, Cohen likes to identify with a fictional tough guy from television. Or, more importantly, he has told some associates that he is connected with the Russian mafia. For years, he believed he was grooming a reputation that allowed him to intimidate others. It wasn't as if Cohen could intimidate others with his intellect. He's clearly not in a league with Michael Avenatti, for example. In fact, he wasn't smart enough to recognize that the Russian mobsters were actually grooming him, to exploit as one of several pathways to influence Donald Trump. (Paul Manafort is an example of another pathway.) They played Cohen in a classic manner: they moved him into debt to them. Real mobsters are good at doing this to businessmen, lawyers, politicians, and even judges. More, in doing so, they are able to compromise some individuals in law enforcement. For a couple of historic examples of this, consider the book (and movie) “Serpico,” or how Whitey Bulger played FBI agent John Connolly. Some law enforcement officials further compromise themselves by transitioning into post-retirement positions where they work for either mobsters, or others they have compromised. While they, like Cohen, imagine themselves as cinematic players, they tend to be more like Dr. Simone Bar Sinister's sidekick, Cad Lackey, in the “Underdog” cartoons. I imagine that at this point, readers are thinking of Keith Schiller. Or the nest of vipers in New York, connected to the Trump & Rudy show. (Consider the implications, from the summer of 2016 to Rudy's recent unhinged Fox appearances, and the implications per why these people are desparate to protect Trump.) For Michael Cohen to cooperate with the investigators from the Southern District to the level they demand, he would not only have to turn on Donald Trump ….he would have to testify honestly about his connections with the Russian mob. Thus, he is not simply being pressured from two different sides – the FBI and Trump. He is under triangulated pressures. Sucks to be him. Have a good day, and a better weekend! H2) Man
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H2O Man | May 2018 | OP |
coeur_de_lion | May 2018 | #1 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #3 | |
volstork | May 2018 | #2 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #4 | |
dalton99a | May 2018 | #7 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #9 | |
voteearlyvoteoften | May 2018 | #5 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #10 | |
kentuck | May 2018 | #6 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #11 | |
malaise | May 2018 | #8 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #12 | |
oberliner | May 2018 | #13 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #14 | |
oberliner | May 2018 | #17 | |
spanone | May 2018 | #15 | |
H2O Man | May 2018 | #16 | |
raven mad | May 2018 | #18 |
Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2018, 01:41 PM
coeur_de_lion (3,256 posts)
1. It does suck to be them
But I am not moved to pity them.
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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #1)
Fri May 4, 2018, 11:08 PM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
3. I agree 100%
Let justice flow like a river.
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Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Fri May 4, 2018, 01:55 PM
volstork (5,106 posts)
2. Cohen is a dead man walking
any way you cut it: he will either spend the rest of his life in prison or be killed by the Russian mob.
No pity from this quarter. |
Response to volstork (Reply #2)
Fri May 4, 2018, 11:11 PM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
4. Right.
He went into this with his eyes wide open. He was willing to damage our country -- meaning citizens -- for cash and power. And I agree with the two options you identified.
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Response to volstork (Reply #2)
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:49 AM
dalton99a (68,323 posts)
7. +1. As Trump's legal attack dog, Cohen ruined many people's lives
Response to dalton99a (Reply #7)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:38 AM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
9. Absolutely.
Cohen didn't limit himself to the role of lawyer, either. He fancied himself as a tough guy.
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Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:40 AM
voteearlyvoteoften (1,715 posts)
5. Knr
Response to voteearlyvoteoften (Reply #5)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:38 AM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
10. Thank you.
Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:49 AM
kentuck (105,211 posts)
6. What a complicated mess he has gotten himself into!
The Russian "mafia" is a big part of this story, in my opinion.
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Response to kentuck (Reply #6)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:50 AM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
11. You are right, of course.
A big part of it, which the media has hinted at, is the Russian mob's using "real estate" to launder money to various interests. To do so, they do not focus on finding resources that obey the law. Rather, they identify those who are financially and morally bankrupt, like Donald Trump. And Cohen was an easy path to Trump.
On a side note, to show what a weak group the Trump-fellows were, consider that sad sack Sean Hannity being eager to be dealt in on a hand of this game. |
Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2018, 09:55 AM
malaise (244,434 posts)
8. What your essays show is a well read man who makes the correct connections
Nice - rec
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Response to malaise (Reply #8)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:51 AM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
12. Lock 'em up!
And throw away the key.
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Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:55 AM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
13. Let's all change the channel
There has to be something better on.
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Response to oberliner (Reply #13)
Sat May 5, 2018, 10:59 AM
H2O Man (67,501 posts)
14. Respectfully disagree.
This is an important chapter in our nation's history. I think people watch it, for the same reason they watched the Watergate and Iran-Contra hearings.
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Response to H2O Man (Reply #14)
Sat May 5, 2018, 12:34 PM
oberliner (58,724 posts)
17. Trump and Rudy are hard to watch
Maybe on "mute" with subtitles.
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Response to H2O Man (Original post)
Sat May 5, 2018, 01:17 PM
raven mad (4,940 posts)
18. Methinks they both stepped into a huge shark pit - and the sharks are hungry!
K&R! (Love your stuff, H20 Man.)
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