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Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:41 PM

It looks like Joy Reid's Twitter account was hacked also

Someone made it look like she posted a transphobic tweet:


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Reply It looks like Joy Reid's Twitter account was hacked also (Original post)
Jose Garcia Apr 2018 OP
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #1
Azathoth Apr 2018 #2
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NCTraveler Apr 2018 #70
George II Apr 2018 #74
MrsCoffee Apr 2018 #47
fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #56
George II Apr 2018 #75
mr_liberal Apr 2018 #58
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #59
fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #60
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #61
fleabiscuit Apr 2018 #63
George II Apr 2018 #66
NCTraveler Apr 2018 #3
Salviati Apr 2018 #21
Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #4
Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #5
Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #7
Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #8
Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #9
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #10
Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #14
LenaBaby61 Apr 2018 #45
poboy2 Apr 2018 #13
Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #15
mcar Apr 2018 #27
poboy2 Apr 2018 #29
mcar Apr 2018 #35
poboy2 Apr 2018 #37
poboy2 Apr 2018 #11
Azathoth Apr 2018 #42
Drunken Irishman Apr 2018 #89
InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2018 #6
Tavarious Jackson Apr 2018 #12
poboy2 Apr 2018 #17
LeftInTX Apr 2018 #30
QC Apr 2018 #16
Bonx Apr 2018 #18
nolabear Apr 2018 #19
Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 #46
nolabear Apr 2018 #50
Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 #68
nolabear Apr 2018 #69
Behind the Aegis Apr 2018 #71
nolabear Apr 2018 #85
boston bean Apr 2018 #20
m-lekktor Apr 2018 #23
boston bean Apr 2018 #24
Squinch Apr 2018 #32
lapucelle Apr 2018 #53
R B Garr Apr 2018 #57
stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #22
mcar Apr 2018 #25
EffieBlack Apr 2018 #26
LonePirate Apr 2018 #28
unblock Apr 2018 #33
EffieBlack Apr 2018 #41
AncientGeezer Apr 2018 #39
Squinch Apr 2018 #31
melman Apr 2018 #34
Squinch Apr 2018 #38
melman Apr 2018 #43
Jose Garcia Apr 2018 #52
Dr. Strange Apr 2018 #51
X_Digger Apr 2018 #54
melman Apr 2018 #36
QC Apr 2018 #40
melman Apr 2018 #44
R B Garr Apr 2018 #49
m-lekktor Apr 2018 #48
George II Apr 2018 #65
m-lekktor Apr 2018 #87
George II Apr 2018 #88
George II Apr 2018 #64
melman Apr 2018 #67
George II Apr 2018 #78
melman Apr 2018 #79
George II Apr 2018 #80
melman Apr 2018 #81
George II Apr 2018 #82
melman Apr 2018 #83
George II Apr 2018 #84
Spider Jerusalem Apr 2018 #72
George II Apr 2018 #76
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FreeState Apr 2018 #62
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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:44 PM

1. Yeah, NO ONE is targeting her, right?

Damn.... There are a few Duers who believe the worst about her readily and willingly... To them, I say WAKE UP

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:45 PM

2. lol, I think the OP is being sarcastic

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #70)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:23 AM

74. Yep.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:43 PM

47. The same ones who hated on Hillary.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:15 PM

56. Personally don't give a ratfuck over anything someone calls Coulter.

I consider her a despicable person and clear and present danger.

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #56)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:41 AM

75. But there are plenty of things to say about her without anyone on DU being homophobic.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:14 PM

58. In 2011? Nobody even knew who she was then. nm

 

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Response to mr_liberal (Reply #58)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:16 PM

59. No, in 2018 at least that's what MY calendar shows today..n/t

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #59)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:19 PM

60. Look at the twitter timeline in the box.

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Response to fleabiscuit (Reply #60)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:20 PM

61. drumming up old stuff to target her TODAY is the point

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #61)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 10:12 PM

63. You weren't clear.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:23 AM

66. Yes, and you can see it all down-thread.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:47 PM

3. Unfortunately....

 

You can find this place littered with similar comments.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:08 PM

21. Agreed

I admit that in the past I told a number of 'jokes' in this vein, that I feel embarrassed about now. I believe that a large part of the measure of a person is not just the correctness of the actions they have taken, but how they respond to education about their incorrect actions, and whether or not their incorrect actions are a product of their upbringing.

It makes a difference whether someone is merely reproducing mistakes they have been taught by their upbringing, or by society in general, or have they sought out and cultivated these unsavory ideals. It makes a difference whether someone continues to be part of the problem after being called out, or sees the error or their ways and has a change of heart.

It seems to me that although Joy Reid may have had some thoughtless quips in the past, she has apologized for them and had been doing good work for a long time. I know who my friends are, and she's on the list. Anyone coming for her head can step the f right off. Any standard that would but her head on the chopping block, should set a lot more people in the media in line in front of her, so until the people calling for her head start calling others out, I will severely question their motives.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:53 PM

4. That doesn't even sound like her.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:56 PM

5. The question

 

is... why is a black woman being trashed this badly and Bill Maher is not. He is way worse.

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:58 PM

7. Well he's a comic not a journalist. nt

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:59 PM

8. Not funny it all

 

It's homophobic to the core.

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #8)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:00 PM

9. I'm just sayin'. nt

 

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:01 PM

10. That's no excuse. BM has said some awful things, WAY worse than anything Joy has said.

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:03 PM

14. It's not an excuse..just saying it's not apples to apples.

 

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Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:31 PM

45. That's no excuse. BM has said some awful things, WAY worse than anything Joy has said.

THIS.

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Response to Kirk Lover (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:02 PM

13. He also fights the good fight 90% of the time. We Shoot at our own. -nt

 

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Response to poboy2 (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:05 PM

15. Indeed...I love me some Bill Maher....salty comments and all. Always have. nt

 

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Response to poboy2 (Reply #13)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:40 PM

27. Joy fights the good fight 100% of the time

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Response to mcar (Reply #27)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:49 PM

29. Apparently you view this as yet another contest. You completely miss the point.

 

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Response to poboy2 (Reply #29)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:02 PM

35. Excuse me?

An excellent female journalist/media host's career is threatened because some on the right and left are dragging up 7+ YO posts. Making the point that Bill Maher and some on this very board have said similar to worse about Coulter and face no recrimination, and pointing out that Joy is with us 100% of the time is hardly making something a contest.

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Response to mcar (Reply #35)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:07 PM

37. My comment, the one you replied to, has nothing to do with your initial reply. This one either.

 

Like I said, miss the point. Rave on. Hell, shoot him and me too. Screw it. I'm out of this thread.

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:01 PM

11. Fragging Exhibit A- Shooting Bill Maher in the back-nt

 

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:16 PM

42. Maher isn't claiming that all those things he said were not really him nt

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:26 PM

89. Well...

 

1) Maher lost his show on ABC because of some comments people found deplorable.
2) Maher is a comedian, whether you find him funny or not.
3) Maher doesn't shy away from his remarks - he is who he is. You like him or you don't.
4) Maher HAS been trashed for his comments on DU and other progressive sites over the years.
5) Maher isn't making up some crazy story about being hacked and lying about those comments.

Joy's biggest folly was not owning these comments, apologizing and saying, "I'm sure there's more in my past and I apologize for that, too. I have evolved. I have matured. I have worked with countless other people who've shown me how to better myself and I've done all I can do to become a more inclusive human being. I am deeply sorry for my comments and I can only hope my future deeds will prove how much I value diversity and inclusion..."

Had she done that, she would've been criticized, probably shamed for a few days BUT EVERYONE would have moved on.

Instead, she kept this story alive by pushing an idea she was hacked...which is just opening the gates to more proof she isn't and more instances of her stupid tweets. THAT'S on her. Not anyone else.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 02:58 PM

6. That's awful!! Hope they catch who did it and throw the book at them.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:01 PM

12. The Russians are at it again....

 

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:05 PM

17. Outside of the genuine or not tweet, the Russian BS force multiplier IS a legitimate menace. -nt

 

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Response to Tavarious Jackson (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:52 PM

30. Weird.... I can't find the tweet from today.

Last time she tweeted was on the 24th...about Schoolhouse Rock

And the last time she retweeted was also on the 24th.....

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:05 PM

16. The KGB is nothing if not thorough! n/t

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:05 PM

18. probably russians

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:07 PM

19. Tweet in 2011. Replies all in the last couple of days. All from Trumpsters.

So somebody is doing a fine job of trying to feed her to the wolves.

Btw I don't see that as transphobic.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #19)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:33 PM

46. Do you consider comments like "mAnn Coulter" to be transphobic?

If not, then I can see why you don't see the comment as transphobic.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:08 PM

50. Because drag and trans(gender) are two different things.

I have friends who are each of those. Drag queens arenít necessarily gay or trans and trans women really tend to just want to live as regular women, not drag queens. I know others have given Ann Coulter varying degrees of shit for looking ďmaleĒ (I disagree) but itís not the same.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #50)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:41 AM

68. Yes they are.

However, who does drag? Men. So pretending Coulter is a drag queen is the same as saying she is a man dressed as a woman. That is the transphobia.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #68)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:53 AM

69. So you use trans to mean a cross dresser.

Okay. Mind you I see insensitivity in the tweet but not phobia. And not what Iíd mean by transphobia.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #69)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 02:35 AM

71. Incorrect.

I know what "trans" mean, I know it does not mean "cross-dresser". For that matter, drag queen also does not mean "cross dresser". The phobia comes from the use of "drag queen" as a pejorative for a cis-gender woman. It is both misogynistic and transphobic, in much the same way "mAnn Coulter" is. The implication is she is a not a real woman, but a man masquerading as a woman.

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Response to Behind the Aegis (Reply #71)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:14 AM

85. Right. Masquerading. Not trans. Transvestite. But thats different.

Transphobic has never meant transvestite as far as I know.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:08 PM

20. Were there any likes or replies around the time this was origiannly posted in 2011?

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Response to boston bean (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:25 PM

23. Can't you read the embedded tweet?

If you can't it says 96 likes and 299 people are talking about this.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #23)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:31 PM

24. I read it. That is why I asked.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:54 PM

32. But also, the tweet isn't transphobic.

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Response to boston bean (Reply #20)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:00 PM

53. Some of the "likes" are from users who identify themselves

as "#MAGA" or "proud deplorable", and every single reply to the tweet dated 2011 was made in the last 72 hours.



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Response to lapucelle (Reply #53)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:23 PM

57. Wow, that is interesting. So basically there were no replies.

None from 2011 to 2018, except for in the last 72 hours. Well, well. Thanks for getting to the bottom of that, lapucelle.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:19 PM

22. #facknews !

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:40 PM

25. Oh goody, now they're pulling up 7 YO tweets to smear Joy

Have you read what has been said about Coulter on this very board?

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:40 PM

26. Whats offensive about this?

 

Serious question - Iím not trying to be funny.

I donít understand why this is offensive - but my not getting it doesnít mean itís not. It may very well be.

Could someone enlighten me?

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:44 PM

28. I am not sure if the OP understands the difference between drag culture and transgenderism.

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:58 PM

33. ann coulter is a woman who identifies as a woman.

not transgender, not a cross-dresser.

she's an offensive person who says many offensive things and there are plenty of ways to appropriately insult her.

treating being transgender or cross-dressing as an insult and then applying it to her isn't among them.

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Response to unblock (Reply #33)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:15 PM

41. Thanks

 

ďtreating being transgender or cross-dressing as an insult and then applying it to herĒ

I get it now - Thanks!

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Response to EffieBlack (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:08 PM

39. "Could someone enlighten me?"

 

Probably not. If the tweet is real.. and it's still on her feed so I assume ...it's an insult/cheap shot at DQ's.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:53 PM

31. How is that transphobic? It really isn't. But thank you for playing.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 03:59 PM

34. This one is

 

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Response to melman (Reply #34)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:08 PM

38. Oh, melman, melman, melman. Supporting a Democrat again, I see.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:22 PM

43. How do you feel about the use of that slur

 

Is that acceptable?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #38)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:50 PM

52. Do Democrats deserve our support regardless of their actions?

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Response to Squinch (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 07:28 PM

51. Insinuating that Ann Coulter is a man is transphobic.

I think Joy Reid has moved beyond that kind of bigotry. We do her (much less ourselves) no favors by pretending these kinds of statements aren't in fact transphobic.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:02 PM

54. Treating being transgender as an insult isn't offensive? What.the.fuck!?!? n/t

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:02 PM

36. Here she uses the term 'shim'

 







Will her defenders defend the use of this slur? Let's see..

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Response to melman (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:09 PM

40. Of course they will defend it. She gets a mulligan. n/t

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Response to QC (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 04:24 PM

44. Either that

 

or ignore and attack. As you can see has already happened.

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Response to melman (Reply #44)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:48 PM

49. "Media Matters says no boycott for Joy Reid.

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Response to melman (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 06:46 PM

48. That's truly fucking disgusting.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #48)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:22 AM

65. What's "truly fucking disgusting" about it?

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Response to George II (Reply #65)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:12 PM

87. The term "shim" is a slur against trans folk....combining she and him.

geeesh. no wonder so many of you see nothing wrong with her homophobic crap. you don't even know it when you see it.

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Response to m-lekktor (Reply #87)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:20 PM

88. I grew up in NYC around gays all my life, including my brother. I've never heard that term. EVER!

So don't lecture me about not seeing anything wrong with homophobic crap.

What is rightfully getting the pushback here and in the dozens of other discussion on this issue is that some, who have participated in almost ALL of these discussions, are insisting that it is "her" homophobic crap, which is still not known for sure.

Until we do know for sure, I'm not accusing her, trying her, and sentencing her for something that, as one referred to yesterday, "she may or may not have said." I find it disappointing that some are doing so here on Democratic Underground.

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Response to melman (Reply #36)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:21 AM

64. Hmmm, an 8 year old tweet, and what's the "slur" of which you speak?

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Response to George II (Reply #64)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:36 AM

67. You don't see it?

 

It's right there.

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Response to melman (Reply #67)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:30 AM

78. What?

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Response to George II (Reply #78)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:34 AM

79. So you're still questioning it

 

Why would you do that when it's been explained?

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Response to melman (Reply #79)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:37 AM

80. I don't know what you're referring to, melman.

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Response to George II (Reply #80)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:39 AM

81. No

 

You asked where the slur was, it was pointed out and explained , and yet you're still asking. I'm not the one playing a game.


edit: the post I'm responding to here originally said I was playing games. It was then changed.

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Response to melman (Reply #81)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:39 AM

82. You pointed it out? Where?

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Response to George II (Reply #82)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:44 AM

83. I'm not going to go back and forth like this

 

It's ridiculous.


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Response to melman (Reply #83)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 09:47 AM

84. Not surprised, duly noted. Have a great day on the internet.

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Response to George II (Reply #64)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 03:17 AM

72. ...

 

Defamatory: "tranny," "she-male," "he/she," "it," "shim"
These words dehumanize transgender people and should not be used in mainstream media. The criteria for using these derogatory terms should be the same as those applied to vulgar epithets used to target other groups: they should not be used except in a direct quote that reveals the bias of the person quoted. So that such words are not given credibility in the media, it is preferred that reporters say, "The person used a derogatory word for a transgender person." Please note that while some transgender people may use "tranny" to describe themselves, others find it extremely offensive.

https://www.glaad.org/reference/transgender


I guess Joy Reid isn't the only one with some evolving to do.

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Response to Spider Jerusalem (Reply #72)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:51 AM

76. If you directed that toward me, you're 100% wrong. Nice try at a veiled personal attack.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 08:13 PM

55. Who is helped by posting tweets from 2011?

Yeah, it looks like Joy had some evolving to do on LGBT people's rights.

And so?

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Response to yardwork (Reply #55)

Thu Apr 26, 2018, 09:31 PM

62. Hey Yardwork!

Itís been years since Iíve seen you on here! 😀

I think you hit the nail on the head. People evolve.

Whatís disappointing to me is seeing the homophobia and transphobia glossed over like itís not real or not hurtful/harmful because it was/May have been in the past. The rhetoric is just as harmful, regardless of its source and age. To just look the other way or make excuses doesnít help diminish a real issue thatís probably more important in the long run than one celeberty being hacked or not.

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Response to FreeState (Reply #62)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 06:41 AM

73. Good to see you too! How are you?

I agree 100% about how hurtful it is for posters here to gloss over the hurtful words. While I have deep suspicions about the timing and source of these revelations, it is playing into our enemies' hands when we turn on one another. Many of the responses in dsc's thread are disheartening.

People, acknowledge that the words and homophobia are wrong.

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 08:54 AM

77. I mean if there is anyone that the powers that be feel needed to be taken down....

 

..by a nefarious and calculated hacking campaign.....it would DEFINITELY be the person on a cable news channel for 2 hours in the morning....on weekends. Oh, and a column in The Daily Beast.

I mean they just can't have that kind of raw journalistic power going unchecked! I mean everyone else on TV is totally pro-Trump and Joy Reid is definitely the only voice in a wilderness of people praising Trump left and right. Clearly she needed to be stopped!




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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 11:32 AM

86. If you didn't like it,

 

when it was does to Michelle Obama by the crazy right ( my boss is a crazy right winger & he forwarded me some of those emails).. then you should not be OK with that.. simple stuff here folks.. I don't watch Joy so I couldn't care less.. plenty of great progressives voices to be found..

Also, the hacking allegations need a THOROUGH investigation.. I guarantee you a RW nutjob will be exposed for something & this will be the new default defense.. like "fake news" has become en vogue.. we can't give them an out

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Response to Jose Garcia (Original post)

Fri Apr 27, 2018, 12:43 PM

90. I hope that cooler heads prevail around here

In an age of information warfare that is undermining our democracy, we need to be alert to the situations that can tear us apart.

This is one of them.

I am a member of the LGBT community. I am also an American who believes in the rule of law and in civility. This situation has the feel of an organized campaign to rile up a clamoring crowd for a public lynching. Let's cool down here.

Otherwise, we may one day find ourselves shattered into warring factions and ultimately in a place where there is no freedom and support for the voices of gays, women and minorities.

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