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steve2470

(37,457 posts)
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:44 PM Apr 2018

Boy borrows parents credit card to embark on four-day holiday to Bali by himself

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/boy-borrows-parents-credit-card-to-embark-on-fourday-holiday-to-bali-by-himself/news-story/849359a4fe18292b6334bd383952e98a

THE mother of a 12-year-old boy who stole her credit card and flew by himself to Bali has lashed back at accusations she is a bad parent, saying “we didn’t fail … people failed us”.

The boy, who gave the name of Drew, made international headlines after he brazenly took mum Emma’s credit card and used it to buy flights to Bali, where he stayed for days before being caught.

Drew flew with Jetstar from Sydney to Perth, and then boarded an international flight to Bali’s Denpasar airport, after two unsuccessful attempts to fly with Qantas and Garuda Airlines.

Once in Bali, the 12-year-old managed to check into a hotel, hire and ride a scooter and drink beer on the beach while his parents back in Sydney searched desperately for him.
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Boy borrows parents credit card to embark on four-day holiday to Bali by himself (Original Post) steve2470 Apr 2018 OP
That kid is going places... Scurrilous Apr 2018 #1
smart young trouble-maker, for sure steve2470 Apr 2018 #3
Hes like kudzu Generic Brad Apr 2018 #25
For the new kids. NCTraveler Apr 2018 #30
Agree malaise Apr 2018 #35
No, he's already been! RandomAccess Apr 2018 #36
lol. yeah Demovictory9 Apr 2018 #39
Quite the enterprising lad, isn't he? MineralMan Apr 2018 #2
"Son, have you considered the benefits of joining the Heritage Foundation?" n/t Orsino Apr 2018 #4
Lol.nt Snotcicles Apr 2018 #13
... the boy did some research online and figured out he could fly alone struggle4progress Apr 2018 #5
Ah , so one of the systems on Oz failed to flag him uponit7771 Apr 2018 #46
How the hell does a 12-year-old check into a hotel? Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #55
He's bound to have some good social engineering skills. lpbk2713 Apr 2018 #6
Angling for Pruitt's job? -nt poboy2 Apr 2018 #7
... The family had previously visited Bali on holiday and Emma said struggle4progress Apr 2018 #8
... Telling his family he was going to school, he rode his razor scooter to his local train station, struggle4progress Apr 2018 #9
Im trying to imagine what my father would have done. 🤯🤕 lkinwi Apr 2018 #10
I would have been grounded until I was 40. The Velveteen Ocelot Apr 2018 #16
I would have gotten more than grounding. Lol lkinwi Apr 2018 #23
I would have been sent away to military academy Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #56
My Dad would have admitted he thought it was kinda funny. Dave Starsky Apr 2018 #26
... catbyte Apr 2018 #51
... We were told it just wouldnt happen. He wouldnt get past any airport personnel, struggle4progress Apr 2018 #11
... Bali was the first time someone asked him if he was alone. Immigration said where is your mum struggle4progress Apr 2018 #12
... "I know I'll get in a lot of trouble next time," he said. struggle4progress Apr 2018 #14
It just boggles the mind. avebury Apr 2018 #15
Why don't the parents take more responsibility? Can't they notify the credit card companies of spooky3 Apr 2018 #18
You would criminally charge your child? Tipperary Apr 2018 #22
Yes. I have been in a similar situation like this. avebury Apr 2018 #37
I would never turn in my kids... Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #49
I agree with all you said except for the criminal charges steve2470 Apr 2018 #33
Nah - I'd make him repay me malaise Apr 2018 #50
I'm looking forward to seeing the movie. Crunchy Frog Apr 2018 #17
"Superbad in Bali" steve2470 Apr 2018 #19
This has the makings of a movie genxlib Apr 2018 #20
Credit Card?? blugbox Apr 2018 #42
I would have been happy to chaperone. nt B2G Apr 2018 #21
Is he related to the Cheeto? MiniMe Apr 2018 #24
The story said he had a passport. spooky3 Apr 2018 #29
apparently his grandma had it or knew where it was steve2470 Apr 2018 #34
The point is, why didn't they put kid's passport where he couldn't get to it? LisaL Apr 2018 #38
Nobody in my house can ever find anything! Phentex Apr 2018 #40
yes good points nt steve2470 Apr 2018 #41
Some friends of mine took their 8 month old daughter to the pediatrician Phoenix61 Apr 2018 #27
LOL! nt spooky3 Apr 2018 #28
He was looking for a "Bali high" Historic NY Apr 2018 #31
Helpless parents who feign an inability Codeine Apr 2018 #32
Whatever! I'm rooting for the kid ProudLib72 Apr 2018 #43
Safe to say my credit limit would prevent this dembotoz Apr 2018 #44
Wonder how he's going to fast talk his way out of this one? smirkymonkey Apr 2018 #45
After giving him a hug & pissed off for a while & calmed down I would like to know what he learned uponit7771 Apr 2018 #47
My daughter (college) had one of my credit cards for 'emergencies'...well she had $3,000 Demsrule86 Apr 2018 #48
A reverse Home Alone movie. nt Ferrets are Cool Apr 2018 #52
This message was self-deleted by its author Duppers Apr 2018 #53
He'd better live it up because he's getting the belt when he comes back Blue_Tires Apr 2018 #54

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
3. smart young trouble-maker, for sure
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:47 PM
Apr 2018

I hope he uses his brains and talents for good in life He tried this before and apparently his passport was supposed to be locked down, per parental request. Someone or something dropped the ball.

eta: Spoke too soon. Hmm...

The Australian Border Force and AFP said it had never flagged Drew’s passport and were unaware of the 12-year-old, despite allegedly being involved in his previous two attempts with Garuda and Qantas.

malaise

(268,724 posts)
35. Agree
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:49 PM
Apr 2018

A little worried about stealing mom's credit card and the beer drinking, but he's adventurous - must have been tired of seeing all those ads to Bali

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
5. ... the boy did some research online and figured out he could fly alone
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 12:57 PM
Apr 2018

without needing a letter from a parent on Jetstar Airways. He nabbed his mom's credit card, tricked his grandmother into giving him his passport, took a train to the airport, and flew to Bali. “They just asked for my student ID and passport to prove that I’m over 12 and that I’m in secondary school," says the boy ... Her son had actually tried this stunt twice before, only to be turned away at the airport by Qantas and Garuda Airlines. Mom says she was informed her son's passport would be flagged by federal authorities as a result, but that apparently never happened ...

http://wreg.com/2018/04/24/12-year-old-steals-credit-card-flies-to-bali-after-fight-with-mom/

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
8. ... The family had previously visited Bali on holiday and Emma said
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:00 PM
Apr 2018

her son had already tried to book flights there on his own but had been knocked back by airlines because he did not have a letter from her ... The Australian Federal Police said they were first notified that the boy might try to leave the country on March 8, before being told he might be in Bali on March 17 ... The federal police said an alert to prevent international travel had not been placed on the boy, and it did not have the power to cancel or request the cancellation of a passport if there were no suspicions of crimes committed ... Jetstar told Channel Nine the airline had since changed its procedures to prevent children over 12 from travelling without parental permission ...

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/24/australian-boy-12-runs-away-bali-using-family-credit-card/

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
9. ... Telling his family he was going to school, he rode his razor scooter to his local train station,
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:02 PM
Apr 2018

from where he travelled to the airport and, using a self-service check-in terminal, boarded a flight for Perth, then another for Indonesia, the Nine Network program reported. He was only quizzed once, at Perth airport, when staff asked him for identification to prove he was over 12. Guardian Australia has independently confirmed the boy made the trip ... After his school reported he was absent, his family scrambled to find out where he was. Discovering he was in Bali, his mother, Emma, flew there to collect him. Emma said the boy doesn’t like hearing the word “no” ...

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/23/boy-12-steals-credit-card-and-goes-on-bali-holiday-after-fight-with-mother

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
23. I would have gotten more than grounding. Lol
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:00 PM
Apr 2018

But the worst for me would have been how disappointed my parents would have been.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
26. My Dad would have admitted he thought it was kinda funny.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:08 PM
Apr 2018

Right after he and my Mom dumped my body in the river that night.

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
11. ... We were told it just wouldnt happen. He wouldnt get past any airport personnel,
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:05 PM
Apr 2018

Drew’s nan told A Current Affair ... Drew locked himself in his hotel room but the officers unscrewed the window and took him to the police station — where he wasn’t under arrest. Drew’s parents then had 24 hours to make it to the police station in Bali — the legal amount of time someone not facing criminal charges is allowed to be held ... “I got a hug off Dad but Mum didn’t do anything, she was angry,” the 12-year-old said ...

http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/boy-borrows-parents-credit-card-to-embark-on-fourday-holiday-to-bali-by-himself/news-story/849359a4fe18292b6334bd383952e98a

struggle4progress

(118,236 posts)
12. ... Bali was the first time someone asked him if he was alone. Immigration said where is your mum
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:09 PM
Apr 2018

and all Drew said was she was waiting outside. Not a problem as the entry visa stamp was placed in his passport ... They raced over to get him but not before they were stopped by Jetstar in Perth and told they couldn’t go on because they didn’t have a return ticket ... As for Drew, he is now a little embarrassed about ... the $8000 of mum and dad’s money he spent ...

https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/04/23/15/15/runaway-rascal-boy-steals-family-credit-card-for-bali-flight

avebury

(10,951 posts)
15. It just boggles the mind.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:16 PM
Apr 2018

Since he is not my child you have to admit that, to some degree, it is pretty funny.

But, on the serious side, if he were my child I would be so furious that I would have insisted on criminal charges being pressed for the theft of and use of the credit card. I would fight the credit card company for any charges put on the card by the boy. Actions - meet consequences.

It is clear, that with the level on ingenuity the kid has, they need to lock up everything and keep a close eye on the kid.

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
18. Why don't the parents take more responsibility? Can't they notify the credit card companies of
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 01:32 PM
Apr 2018

the names of authorized users and can't they take the child's passport from him, rather than blame the airlines alone? This story, which reported that he had tried similar stunts in the past, does not make sense.

Sounds as if the family needs counseling.

avebury

(10,951 posts)
37. Yes. I have been in a similar situation like this.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:35 PM
Apr 2018

i had a roommate with the kid from hell to put it mildly. The kid went from one disaster to another to another with no end in sight, including a ride on Con-Air, time is State Prison, total lack of responsibility, running up debt like there was no tomorrow, and so on. The kid's mother lived in Ohio and his father worked out of state so the kid was dumped on me. So yeah, I have no patience for putting up with this kind of crap.

The straw that broke the camel's back was when he talked his dad into letting him trade in his vehicle and getting dad to co-sign on a 5 year loan. I told his dad that he was stupid and that he would end up being responsible for paying the loan. The kid had already suckered him into numerous really bad decisions and this was just one more. I moved out and left them to deal with the inevitable disaster that was totally predictable. The kid was on probation and I can tell you that he was well on his way to ending up being charged with passing hot checks. With no money in the bank he kept writing checks and would throw out the bank notices. I talked to the bank and told them that they needed to have a come to Jesus talk with the kid about where the situation was heading. As a former loan review officer it boggled my mind that the bank hadn't started to refuse to honor the bad checks.

So would I turn my child into the police? Based upon my experience with this kid, YES! Nothing to think about, I would never allow myself to be put in a similar position ever again.

Demsrule86

(68,487 posts)
49. I would never turn in my kids...
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:20 PM
Apr 2018

Luckily they are pretty good...the youngest one spent to much on my credit card and Amazon too but seems to have learned her lesson.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
33. I agree with all you said except for the criminal charges
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:34 PM
Apr 2018

I understand the sentiment but wow, that's as harsh as it comes with kids. Granted, it's juvenile charges which can be expunged in the USA (no clue about Australia) but now the kid has a record. A record that has to be expunged if he ever wants to work for the FBI or CIA or any kind of sensitive security job, from what I know.

It looks like mom was the one who dropped the ball, unless Australia's police forces are lying or mistaken (which is theoretically possible I guess).

MiniMe

(21,709 posts)
24. Is he related to the Cheeto?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:02 PM
Apr 2018

Sounds like something he would do.

How did he get on the plane without a passport? And how did he get through customs in Bali?

spooky3

(34,407 posts)
29. The story said he had a passport.
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:23 PM
Apr 2018

I don't understand why the parents don't take it away from him. They could put it in a safe or bank safety deposit box.

steve2470

(37,457 posts)
34. apparently his grandma had it or knew where it was
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:40 PM
Apr 2018

Safe deposit box is a good idea, or just revoking it unless she has a really compelling reason to take him out of Australia.

LisaL

(44,972 posts)
38. The point is, why didn't they put kid's passport where he couldn't get to it?
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:37 PM
Apr 2018

They knew in advance he was trying to book a ticket. If he stole the credit card number, why didn't they cancelled the credit card? Seems like mother is blaming everybody but herself for his behavior.

Phentex

(16,330 posts)
40. Nobody in my house can ever find anything!
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 05:51 PM
Apr 2018

If they can't find the mustard in the fridge, I doubt they'd ever find the passports.

Phoenix61

(16,994 posts)
27. Some friends of mine took their 8 month old daughter to the pediatrician
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 02:13 PM
Apr 2018

Sweet little thing had figured out how to walk a couple of weeks before that. The doc asked them if they wanted the good news or the bad news first. They opted for the good news which was "she's advanced for her age." The bad news? "You're the parents." Sounds like these parents have one of those. I wish them and him all the best.

uponit7771

(90,304 posts)
47. After giving him a hug & pissed off for a while & calmed down I would like to know what he learned
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:11 PM
Apr 2018

He would have to write a book for me that would have been a cost

Demsrule86

(68,487 posts)
48. My daughter (college) had one of my credit cards for 'emergencies'...well she had $3,000
Tue Apr 24, 2018, 07:17 PM
Apr 2018

worth of emergencies in six weeks...thus she now has a reloadable visa card with strict limits from Mom.

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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
54. He'd better live it up because he's getting the belt when he comes back
Wed Apr 25, 2018, 12:08 PM
Apr 2018

His old man needs to tear his ass to shreds and make him sit in a tub of rubbing alcohol afterwards...

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