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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsBoy borrows parents credit card to embark on four-day holiday to Bali by himself
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/boy-borrows-parents-credit-card-to-embark-on-fourday-holiday-to-bali-by-himself/news-story/849359a4fe18292b6334bd383952e98aTHE mother of a 12-year-old boy who stole her credit card and flew by himself to Bali has lashed back at accusations she is a bad parent, saying we didnt fail people failed us.
The boy, who gave the name of Drew, made international headlines after he brazenly took mum Emmas credit card and used it to buy flights to Bali, where he stayed for days before being caught.
Drew flew with Jetstar from Sydney to Perth, and then boarded an international flight to Balis Denpasar airport, after two unsuccessful attempts to fly with Qantas and Garuda Airlines.
Once in Bali, the 12-year-old managed to check into a hotel, hire and ride a scooter and drink beer on the beach while his parents back in Sydney searched desperately for him.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)I hope he uses his brains and talents for good in life He tried this before and apparently his passport was supposed to be locked down, per parental request. Someone or something dropped the ball.
eta: Spoke too soon. Hmm...
Generic Brad
(14,272 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)malaise
(268,724 posts)A little worried about stealing mom's credit card and the beer drinking, but he's adventurous - must have been tired of seeing all those ads to Bali
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)What incredible pluck! And adventurousness.
Demovictory9
(32,423 posts)MineralMan
(146,262 posts)Orsino
(37,428 posts)struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)without needing a letter from a parent on Jetstar Airways. He nabbed his mom's credit card, tricked his grandmother into giving him his passport, took a train to the airport, and flew to Bali. They just asked for my student ID and passport to prove that Im over 12 and that Im in secondary school," says the boy ... Her son had actually tried this stunt twice before, only to be turned away at the airport by Qantas and Garuda Airlines. Mom says she was informed her son's passport would be flagged by federal authorities as a result, but that apparently never happened ...
http://wreg.com/2018/04/24/12-year-old-steals-credit-card-flies-to-bali-after-fight-with-mom/
uponit7771
(90,304 posts)Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)lpbk2713
(42,742 posts)They will serve him well in life.
poboy2
(2,078 posts)struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)her son had already tried to book flights there on his own but had been knocked back by airlines because he did not have a letter from her ... The Australian Federal Police said they were first notified that the boy might try to leave the country on March 8, before being told he might be in Bali on March 17 ... The federal police said an alert to prevent international travel had not been placed on the boy, and it did not have the power to cancel or request the cancellation of a passport if there were no suspicions of crimes committed ... Jetstar told Channel Nine the airline had since changed its procedures to prevent children over 12 from travelling without parental permission ...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/04/24/australian-boy-12-runs-away-bali-using-family-credit-card/
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)from where he travelled to the airport and, using a self-service check-in terminal, boarded a flight for Perth, then another for Indonesia, the Nine Network program reported. He was only quizzed once, at Perth airport, when staff asked him for identification to prove he was over 12. Guardian Australia has independently confirmed the boy made the trip ... After his school reported he was absent, his family scrambled to find out where he was. Discovering he was in Bali, his mother, Emma, flew there to collect him. Emma said the boy doesnt like hearing the word no ...
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/apr/23/boy-12-steals-credit-card-and-goes-on-bali-holiday-after-fight-with-mother
lkinwi
(1,477 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,615 posts)lkinwi
(1,477 posts)But the worst for me would have been how disappointed my parents would have been.
Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)Right after he and my Mom dumped my body in the river that night.
catbyte
(34,341 posts)struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)Drews nan told A Current Affair ... Drew locked himself in his hotel room but the officers unscrewed the window and took him to the police station where he wasnt under arrest. Drews parents then had 24 hours to make it to the police station in Bali the legal amount of time someone not facing criminal charges is allowed to be held ... I got a hug off Dad but Mum didnt do anything, she was angry, the 12-year-old said ...
http://www.news.com.au/travel/travel-updates/warnings/boy-borrows-parents-credit-card-to-embark-on-fourday-holiday-to-bali-by-himself/news-story/849359a4fe18292b6334bd383952e98a
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)and all Drew said was she was waiting outside. Not a problem as the entry visa stamp was placed in his passport ... They raced over to get him but not before they were stopped by Jetstar in Perth and told they couldnt go on because they didnt have a return ticket ... As for Drew, he is now a little embarrassed about ... the $8000 of mum and dads money he spent ...
https://www.9news.com.au/national/2018/04/23/15/15/runaway-rascal-boy-steals-family-credit-card-for-bali-flight
struggle4progress
(118,236 posts)avebury
(10,951 posts)Since he is not my child you have to admit that, to some degree, it is pretty funny.
But, on the serious side, if he were my child I would be so furious that I would have insisted on criminal charges being pressed for the theft of and use of the credit card. I would fight the credit card company for any charges put on the card by the boy. Actions - meet consequences.
It is clear, that with the level on ingenuity the kid has, they need to lock up everything and keep a close eye on the kid.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)the names of authorized users and can't they take the child's passport from him, rather than blame the airlines alone? This story, which reported that he had tried similar stunts in the past, does not make sense.
Sounds as if the family needs counseling.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Whoa.
avebury
(10,951 posts)i had a roommate with the kid from hell to put it mildly. The kid went from one disaster to another to another with no end in sight, including a ride on Con-Air, time is State Prison, total lack of responsibility, running up debt like there was no tomorrow, and so on. The kid's mother lived in Ohio and his father worked out of state so the kid was dumped on me. So yeah, I have no patience for putting up with this kind of crap.
The straw that broke the camel's back was when he talked his dad into letting him trade in his vehicle and getting dad to co-sign on a 5 year loan. I told his dad that he was stupid and that he would end up being responsible for paying the loan. The kid had already suckered him into numerous really bad decisions and this was just one more. I moved out and left them to deal with the inevitable disaster that was totally predictable. The kid was on probation and I can tell you that he was well on his way to ending up being charged with passing hot checks. With no money in the bank he kept writing checks and would throw out the bank notices. I talked to the bank and told them that they needed to have a come to Jesus talk with the kid about where the situation was heading. As a former loan review officer it boggled my mind that the bank hadn't started to refuse to honor the bad checks.
So would I turn my child into the police? Based upon my experience with this kid, YES! Nothing to think about, I would never allow myself to be put in a similar position ever again.
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)Luckily they are pretty good...the youngest one spent to much on my credit card and Amazon too but seems to have learned her lesson.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)I understand the sentiment but wow, that's as harsh as it comes with kids. Granted, it's juvenile charges which can be expunged in the USA (no clue about Australia) but now the kid has a record. A record that has to be expunged if he ever wants to work for the FBI or CIA or any kind of sensitive security job, from what I know.
It looks like mom was the one who dropped the ball, unless Australia's police forces are lying or mistaken (which is theoretically possible I guess).
malaise
(268,724 posts)pocket money for years and summer jobs.
Crunchy Frog
(26,578 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)genxlib
(5,518 posts)Not Home Alone
blugbox
(951 posts)You got it!!
B2G
(9,766 posts)MiniMe
(21,709 posts)Sounds like something he would do.
How did he get on the plane without a passport? And how did he get through customs in Bali?
spooky3
(34,407 posts)I don't understand why the parents don't take it away from him. They could put it in a safe or bank safety deposit box.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Safe deposit box is a good idea, or just revoking it unless she has a really compelling reason to take him out of Australia.
LisaL
(44,972 posts)They knew in advance he was trying to book a ticket. If he stole the credit card number, why didn't they cancelled the credit card? Seems like mother is blaming everybody but herself for his behavior.
Phentex
(16,330 posts)If they can't find the mustard in the fridge, I doubt they'd ever find the passports.
steve2470
(37,457 posts)Phoenix61
(16,994 posts)Sweet little thing had figured out how to walk a couple of weeks before that. The doc asked them if they wanted the good news or the bad news first. They opted for the good news which was "she's advanced for her age." The bad news? "You're the parents." Sounds like these parents have one of those. I wish them and him all the best.
spooky3
(34,407 posts)Historic NY
(37,449 posts)Codeine
(25,586 posts)to control their children are pathetic and useless.
ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)Precocious little whippersnapper, I like him.
dembotoz
(16,785 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)uponit7771
(90,304 posts)He would have to write a book for me that would have been a cost
Demsrule86
(68,487 posts)worth of emergencies in six weeks...thus she now has a reloadable visa card with strict limits from Mom.
Ferrets are Cool
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Blue_Tires
(55,445 posts)His old man needs to tear his ass to shreds and make him sit in a tub of rubbing alcohol afterwards...