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Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:37 PM

NPR's Cokie Roberts: Romney's trip to Poland was racially motivated.

Cokie Roberts says Romney’s Poland trip meant to excite ‘ethnic white voters’

ROBERTS: Well, I think that part of it was a desire to portray President Obama as something of a wimp and say he has abandoned Eastern Europe. But look, you remember well the Reagan Democrats, those ethnic white voters who had been Democrats for many years, turned out for Ronald Reagan and have been fairly predictable Republicans since then. Now, it's a smaller percentage of the population, of the voting population than it used to be, but white voters are still much more Republican than any other group in the electorate.

They went for McCain in 2008 by 55 percent, and I think that, you know, getting those ethnic voters excited is really what Romney has in mind here. It's more for the folks at home, the descendants of the people that he will be speaking to in Poland.

http://www.npr.org/2012/07/30/157580706/week-in-politics-romney-headed-to-poland

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:45 PM

1. She is right to a small extent.

the "ethinic white" voters are LESS republican than the average White voter.

This is because They are usually not Protestant and are instead Catholic or Orthodox (Greek, Russian, Ukrainian, Lithuanian....)

The only reason they might vote for the GOP has to do with being small business owners or the fact that they are now 3rd or fourth generation and have lost contact with their ethnic and blue-collar roots.

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Response to slampoet (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:52 PM

4. Anti-communism has traditionally worked well for the GOP among this group

More recently I've met Serbs who resent Clinton.

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Response to JVS (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:20 PM

7. Serbs hate Clinton because he stopped their genocide of Bosnians and Albanians.

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Response to Odin2005 (Reply #7)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:56 PM

8. it's not as simple as that

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:48 PM

2. The term is ambiguous

Does she mean ethnic white voters as all white people, or does she use the term to mean voters who are white but still have ethnic identities (eastern European and catholic or orthodox) that are more typical of the traditional democratic base than the republicans' base.

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Response to JVS (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:51 PM

3. probably the latter

she def. could have made herself clearer.

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Response to JVS (Reply #2)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:00 PM

9. In the end, she's clear.

She's talking about the "Polish" vote.

If you can play to the Latino vote, why not the Polish vote?

Except that this isn't going to be how it's interpreted. All Euro-Americans are the same, don't you know. Apparently they all like pierogi

(In my family pierogi was a New Year's treat. Like the Thanksgiving lasagna that accompanied the turkey.)

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 04:53 PM

5. Republican voters are much more white than anything else.

That what she really saying.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 05:16 PM

6. I know this; if Cokie said it, it's a pile of steaming bullshit.

She is totally worthless.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:55 PM

10. Millions of Polish-Americans live in PA, WI, and MI, according to a NY Times

story at http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/07/30/a-trip-to-poland-with-an-eye-on-swing-states/ .

While the largest bloc of Polish-Americans are hometown Obama supporters in Chicago, and Obama beat McCain among Polish-Americans 52-42 overall, 44 percent of Polish-Americans say they are "conservative".

Thus a trip to Poland COULD HAVE been a smart way to target millions of white ethnic American voters had it been executed properly. Can you think of a bigger or better or more politically neglected group of white ethnic voters for Boston to have targeted?

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Response to ProgressiveEconomist (Reply #10)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 11:03 PM

18. Yes

 

Poles vote Democratic at a much higher rate than other white people. This story is total bunk.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:59 PM

11. the descendants of the people that he will be speaking to in Poland

 

Seriously?



She thinks those people living in Poland have direct descendants over here?



Wow.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 08:07 PM

12. Pandering to a specific ethnic group? UNHEARD OF in American politics! nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:28 PM

13. Thanks Kochie

n/t

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:35 PM

14. Cokie speaks the truth on this one

 

And believe it or not, there are families with roots in both countries.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:38 PM

15. Listen up, everything Romney and the rest of the GOP does is racially motivated. Period!!

 

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:54 PM

16. cokie means.....`white ethnic european racist voters'

i bet the poland forum at stormfront was a buzz with mitten`s poland campaign

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Jul 31, 2012, 11:02 PM

17. I think your data doesn't hold up to real scrutiny

 

Yes, whites voted 55 percent for McCain. And they will probably do the same for Mitt. But Poles are concentrated in traditionally Democratic areas in the Great Lakes region. That region is pretty solidly Democratic. So both you and Cokie are probably guilty of not doing the most basic research.

And the beat goes on . . .

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