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Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:02 AM

One journalist I will NEVER trust again, Matt Taibbi

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/features/taibbi-putin-derangement-syndrome-arrives-w474771


Putin Derangement Syndrome Arrives
Whatever the truth about Trump and Russia, the speculation surrounding it has become a dangerous case of mass hysteria


I would tell you what I think of Matt, but I dont have enough time.

The Russia investigation is MASS hysteria? Are you the same one who relentlessly attacked one candidate and defended another recently?



Guess who wrote a critical article about Kamala Harris a few years ago.

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Reply One journalist I will NEVER trust again, Matt Taibbi (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 OP
sharedvalues Apr 2018 #1
dalton99a Apr 2018 #2
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #4
sharedvalues Apr 2018 #11
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #15
mcar Apr 2018 #14
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #16
mcar Apr 2018 #17
JonAndKatePlusABird Apr 2018 #19
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #20
mythology Apr 2018 #23
RandomAccess Apr 2018 #21
hlthe2b Apr 2018 #3
cilla4progress Apr 2018 #18
MineralMan Apr 2018 #5
NurseJackie Apr 2018 #7
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #8
BootinUp Apr 2018 #13
comradebillyboy Apr 2018 #6
NurseJackie Apr 2018 #9
shanny Apr 2018 #10
Eliot Rosewater Apr 2018 #12
Crunchy Frog Apr 2018 #22

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:05 AM

1. Im with you.

Let me help you out with just one article about taibbi

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-two-expat-bros-who-terrorized-women-correspondents-in-moscow/2017/12/15/91ff338c-ca3c-11e7-8321-481fd63f174d_story.html


The two expat bros who terrorized women correspondents in Moscow
Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames trafficked in hideous stereotypes and body-shaming.

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:05 AM

2. +1

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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #1)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:06 AM

4. Do me a favor, first thanks but I dont have subscription to WAPO can you

post whatever the limit is we can post of this article, thanks

If not, cool also, if you dont have a sub either.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:22 AM

11. I sub to WaPo - canceled my NYT sub a few months ago

Here’s the article.

But as you said- there’s so much to say about Taibbi it’s hard to know where to start. Horseshoe theory? Or influence by propagandists and foreign powers? Hard to tell.

First here’s the DU orig thread on the article

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029992569


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Response to sharedvalues (Reply #11)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:24 AM

15. Thanks, I got RILED up again today watching his relentless attack of Hillary in the Rolling

Stone doc on HBO

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:24 AM

14. Here are a few snippets from the article

...Twenty years ago, when I was a Moscow correspondent for the Baltimore Sun, two Americans named Matt Taibbi and Mark Ames ran an English-language tabloid in the Russian capital called the eXile. They portrayed themselves as swashbuckling parodists, unbound by the conventions of mainstream journalism, exposing Westerners who were cynically profiting from the chaos of post-Soviet Russia.

A better description is this: The eXile was juvenile, stunt-obsessed and pornographic, titillating for high school boys. It is back in the news because Taibbi just wrote a new book, and interviewers are asking him why he and Ames acted so boorishly back then. The eXile’s distinguishing feature, more than anything else, was its blinding sexism — which often targeted me...

When I wrote an article about advertisements that used sex to sell cigarettes — new for Russia — Taibbi addressed my Baltimore Sun editors in his eXile column: “Lally’s article is pathological, illogical, inaccurate, makes no point, and is insulting and hypocritical besides. . . . Lally’s gaffes may be comic, the wild meanderings of an aging woman nearing derangement.” Once, the eXile declared me the winner of its “Gnarliest Elephantine Ass on a Journalist With No Ethics Award.” Another time, it published a cartoon showing me in bed with my editor.

I wondered if I should write a story about the eXile, and I started asking Western correspondents what they knew about it. Taibbi had accused a friend of mine of being paid by Russian oligarchs to write favorable stories, so I thought it was worth asking about the eXile’s connections. Do you think any oligarchs are financing them? As a reader, can you tell the difference between what they are making up and what they are not? Are they here on journalist visas? Who are their journalistic role models? I never pursued it, but Taibbi found out about my queries. In the eXile, he described “a full frontal attack by, of all things, a matronly middle-aged American print journalist.”

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Response to mcar (Reply #14)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:25 AM

16. Thanks, I can add him to the list of people I suspect actually work for Putin.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #16)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:33 AM

17. Whoever he works for

His behavior is reprehensible.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 12:08 PM

19. Open the link in "private browsing"

Here's a tip: If you open that link with "private browsing"/Incognito mode, you'll see the article because they can't track how many times you visit the site.

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Response to JonAndKatePlusABird (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 12:20 PM

20. Learn something new everyday, thanks. What I dont want to do is reduce income to WAPO

or any other good journalistic outfit.

I guess I should buy a sub from them

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Response to JonAndKatePlusABird (Reply #19)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 05:19 PM

23. Or you could support journalism and pay for a subscription

 

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #4)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 03:33 PM

21. If you use Chrome, there's a workaround

 

Right click on the link and choose "open in incognito window" -- works like a charm.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:06 AM

3. yup... just like Glen Greenwald and Vanden Huevel's hubbie at The Nation.

meh...

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #3)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:41 AM

18. Van den Heuvel's hubbie?

Wonder why these people go in/out if rotation on the political shows?

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:13 AM

5. I've never trusted him.

He was the darling of some here, back in 2016, but most of those people are no longer posting here.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:15 AM

7. "...most of those people are no longer posting here."

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:15 AM

8. I did trust him long before the election. But I was wrong.

I trusted someone else, two others actually, who I now know are not who they say they are, big mistake by me.

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Response to MineralMan (Reply #5)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:23 AM

13. His trash article on Wesley Clark was

Instructive as to his methods and motivations. That was a long time ago but I still remember it.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:15 AM

6. Taibbi lost me years ago.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:18 AM

9. He's a sexist PIG!

He's cut from the same cloth as Trump and other sexist and misogynistic harassers and abusers. Fuck him!

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:21 AM

10. "... wrote a critical article about Kamala Harris...."

 

Was it about OneWest Bank perchance?

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Response to shanny (Reply #10)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 11:22 AM

12. Yep

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Sat Apr 21, 2018, 05:12 PM

22. I haven't trusted him since 2003.

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