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LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:19 PM Jul 2012

Pastor: Kermit deserves ‘death penalty’ for taking ‘sodomy route’

Pastor: Kermit deserves ‘death penalty’ for taking ‘sodomy route’


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/31/pastor-kermit-deserves-death-penalty-for-taking-sodomy-route/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

A Christian pastor recently recalled a time when “a Christian perspective ultimately brought the death penalty upon homosexuality” and suggested that Muppet characters Kermit the Frog and Miss Piggy deserved the same for breaking with Chick-fil-A over the company’s opposition to LGBT rights.

During his Friday radio broadcast, Kevin Swanson said he wanted to see “Miss Piggy on a bun” because The Muppets had dumped Chick-fil-A after restaurant founder Dan Cathy insisted the company was “guilty as charged” of funding anti-LGBT organizations.

“A Christian perspective ultimately brought the death penalty upon homosexuality between roughly 350 AD and roughly 1850 or so, for about 1,500 years that form of life had pretty much been eliminated except here and there, it was in the closet, but it was almost unheard of for over 1,000 years, until recently,” Swanson explained. “Of course, now you have a massive, massive increase in this kind of thing.”


“It’s pretty obvious to anyone who’s on looking that tolerance only runs one direction, you only can tolerate gays, you can’t tolerate those who don’t support gays,” co-host Dave Buehner observed.

“And Kermit the Frog is not eating Chick-fil-A either,” Swanson continued. “Maybe Dan Cathy should consider doing a frog filet for one of the sandwiches.”



Really? Attacking a PUPPET!?!?!

What a bunch of loooneys

BTW I can't tolerate anyone who has refuse to tolerate others. If you can't learn to accept people for who they are then why should we accept you?
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Pastor: Kermit deserves ‘death penalty’ for taking ‘sodomy route’ (Original Post) LynneSin Jul 2012 OP
Doc Hopper, is that you? Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2012 #1
Kevin Swanson obviously has a hand puppet fixation. Just saying. Lint Head Jul 2012 #2
Something about putting his hand up someone's ass... n/t backscatter712 Jul 2012 #18
Miss Piggy on a bun would also violate the Levitical laws. mysuzuki2 Jul 2012 #3
Yes it would, for you shall not eat wild animals nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #5
What about that whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing? Just saying. SlimJimmy Jul 2012 #21
Many scholars believe that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is a warning against inhospitality yardwork Aug 2012 #49
I read your link and several others that say that inhospitaity was the reason for the SlimJimmy Aug 2012 #53
Wouldn't a frog be considered a creature from the seas without scales? LynneSin Jul 2012 #8
Here s the one I am thinking off. nadinbrzezinski Jul 2012 #23
Swanson is one of the voices of mainstream religion.... Bluenorthwest Jul 2012 #4
Kevin Swanson is not one of the voices of mainstream religion XemaSab Jul 2012 #28
Huge Church, large radio following, tied to a denomination with all the bells and whistles.... Bluenorthwest Aug 2012 #47
Rick Warren is way more mainstream XemaSab Aug 2012 #48
I don't suppose we can get 'The Death Penalty" for... 99Forever Jul 2012 #6
I can't stop laughing cali Jul 2012 #7
Are you SURE this isn't sourced from the Onion? bullwinkle428 Jul 2012 #9
It's not XemaSab Jul 2012 #30
It isn't easy being Green cthulu2016 Jul 2012 #10
Duzy! FSogol Aug 2012 #45
It's time for a Biblical plague -- frogs in the bedroom! starroute Jul 2012 #11
This just in - Jesus has quit! Initech Jul 2012 #12
Ain't no brains on that planet! Send it back to the drawing board. "If" LGBT RKP5637 Jul 2012 #29
Ladeeeez and gennulmen, Mister Spike Jones! hifiguy Jul 2012 #13
If this guy's seriously worried about puppet sodomy KamaAina Jul 2012 #14
I told them... Jeff In Milwaukee Jul 2012 #16
Sounds Like this asshole needs to get a visit from Harry slampoet Jul 2012 #15
what's next? Will Chick-fil-A hunt down Big Bird ? KurtNYC Jul 2012 #17
These people are truly mentally ill. Disturbing the violence closeupready Jul 2012 #19
I'll see you in hell Kermit! Ganja Ninja Jul 2012 #20
god, I love this thread. cali Jul 2012 #22
Attn: America's children. Muppets or Christianity. Choose right now. n/t dimbear Jul 2012 #24
Don't worry Kermie. I'll never desert you. We have a Rainbow Connection. nolabear Jul 2012 #25
Why is it gay? Confusious Jul 2012 #39
Both rainbows and Debbie Harry are gay icons. yardwork Aug 2012 #50
All thise scandal of kids being abused OverseaVisitor Jul 2012 #26
Gays = pedophiles XemaSab Jul 2012 #31
Kermit did what? undeterred Jul 2012 #27
He is sentence to death OverseaVisitor Jul 2012 #35
He watched the whole thing jberryhill Jul 2012 #38
Oh thats funny. undeterred Aug 2012 #41
These folks have some really serious mental issues to say the least. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2012 #32
I think I understand. Kermit does engage in interspecies sex. n/t vaberella Jul 2012 #33
Kevin Swanson is an odious patriarchal freak XemaSab Jul 2012 #34
OMG - yuck! LibertyLover Aug 2012 #43
Freddie Blassie's classic "Pencil Neck Geek" hifiguy Aug 2012 #54
This smacks of the whole Teletubbies gay purse-carrying thing. kestrel91316 Jul 2012 #36
Hey, that's a private matter between him and Miss Piggy jberryhill Jul 2012 #37
Kermit is all powerful. Be afraid of the green frog with the porky pinky. nt DCKit Aug 2012 #40
I like that he thinks there were no gay people (except "here and there") from 350 to 1850. NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #42
I thought this was the Onion -- I swear obamanut2012 Aug 2012 #44
Hey, if he wants to eat a felt puppet on a bun, I say let him. tanyev Aug 2012 #46
Oh WTF??? Who stuck their hand up that false puppet prophet??? lunasun Aug 2012 #51
Nice he is advocating the death penalty for gays... Kalidurga Aug 2012 #52
They seem to have forgotten that the Romans executed/crucified Christians back in the day. Bake Aug 2012 #55
 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
5. Yes it would, for you shall not eat wild animals
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:39 PM
Jul 2012

but the selective reading of Leviticus is funny... or the fact that the paragraph in question was about SLAVERY and slave masters taking advantage of their slaves.

WUT?

Yup, that is the interpretation from scholars since, yes homosexuality was common in the ancient world and even accepted, I know... SHOCKING.

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
21. What about that whole Sodom and Gomorrah thing? Just saying.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 07:41 PM
Jul 2012
In Christian and Islamic traditions, Sodom and Gomorrah have become synonymous with impenitent sin, and their fall with a proverbial manifestation of God's wrath.[Jude 1 ] Sodom and Gomorrah have been used as metaphors for vice and homosexuality viewed as a deviation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodom_and_Gomorrah


Disclaimer: I'm not agreeing with the above statement, just pointing out that it exists in both Christian and Islamic religious traditions.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
49. Many scholars believe that the story of Sodom and Gomorrah is a warning against inhospitality
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:20 AM
Aug 2012

The people of the cities on the plain were guilty of abusing their guests. The passage has nothing to do with homosexuality. It's a warning not to abuse, rape, and mistreat one's guests. A quick google search gave me this link, but there are many others. Take a look:

http://www.libchrist.com/other/homosexual/sodom.html

SlimJimmy

(3,180 posts)
53. I read your link and several others that say that inhospitaity was the reason for the
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:56 PM
Aug 2012

destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. In researching this, I also found this link. I guess the debate rages on. Personally, as an agnostic, I have no reason to believe or disbelieve either version.

Ezekiel 16:49-50 declares, "Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. They were haughty and did detestable things before me..." The Hebrew word translated "detestable" refers to something that is morally disgusting and is the exact same word used in Leviticus 18:22 that refers to homosexuality as an "abomination." Similarly, Jude 7 declares, "...Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion." So, again, while homosexuality was not the only sin in which the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah indulged, it does appear to be the primary reason for the destruction of the cities.

http://www.gotquestions.org/Sodom-and-Gomorrah.html

LynneSin

(95,337 posts)
8. Wouldn't a frog be considered a creature from the seas without scales?
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jul 2012

I mean frogs mainly live in water and they don't have scales

Leviticus 11

'Of all the creatures living in the water of the seas and the streams, you may eat any that have fins and scales.

Frogs have no fins or scales thus they are considered unclean.

Just saying!

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
23. Here s the one I am thinking off.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jul 2012

Leviticus 5:2 "'Or if a person touches anything ceremonially unclean--whether the carcasses of unclean wild animals or of unclean livestock or of unclean creatures that move along the ground--even though he is unaware of it, he has become unclean and is guilty.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
4. Swanson is one of the voices of mainstream religion....
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:36 PM
Jul 2012

He has lots of followers among the 'faith community'. This is why Henson is to be commended, taking on the heat that is reserved for the hated 'other' while Harper Collins cashes it's checks and hopes for the best.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
47. Huge Church, large radio following, tied to a denomination with all the bells and whistles....
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 10:22 AM
Aug 2012

Presbyterian is not exactly the far out radical fringe, now is it? Who do you claim is a voice of mainstream religion? Rick Warren? Or is it just that anyone who is too obvious in their dogmatic hat is 'not a true Scotsman'? The Pope is no better than Swanson, says worse things, and if the Pope of Rome is not mainstream, there is no mainstream.
http://www.opc.org/

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
48. Rick Warren is way more mainstream
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:15 AM
Aug 2012

Swanson's about one degree away from the Duggars. Their faith is NOT mainstream.

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
6. I don't suppose we can get 'The Death Penalty" for...
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:43 PM
Jul 2012

... corporations and churches that have stupid bigots as their main players, can we?

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
7. I can't stop laughing
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 01:45 PM
Jul 2012

how stupid can you possibly be? The Pastor is a moronic piece of pig shit or frog shit or both.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
11. It's time for a Biblical plague -- frogs in the bedroom!
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:06 PM
Jul 2012

"This is what the great LORD says: Let my people go, so that they may worship me. If you refuse to let them go, I will plague your whole country with frogs. The Nile will teem with frogs. They will come up into your palace and your bedroom and onto your bed, into the houses of your officials and on your people, and into your ovens and kneading troughs. The frogs will go up on you and your people and all your officials."

RKP5637

(67,086 posts)
29. Ain't no brains on that planet! Send it back to the drawing board. "If" LGBT
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:23 PM
Jul 2012

only represent 2% of the population as some RW'ers claim, then why the F do they get so worked up about it ...

And some say it's going to wreck their marriage. If that small a number of people are going to F up their marriage, they've got a lot more problems going on in their marriage than LGBT.

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
14. If this guy's seriously worried about puppet sodomy
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jul 2012

I suggest he look into this:



Oh, the hugh manatee!!11!!

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
16. I told them...
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 02:56 PM
Jul 2012

that they shouldn't have made that "home movie" back when they were in college. But would they listen to me? Nooooo...

nolabear

(41,933 posts)
25. Don't worry Kermie. I'll never desert you. We have a Rainbow Connection.
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:07 PM
Jul 2012


Yeah I know I don't look like Debbie Harry but, *sigh*. What a lovely song. And gay as the day is long.

yardwork

(61,539 posts)
50. Both rainbows and Debbie Harry are gay icons.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:42 AM
Aug 2012

The skit contains many references to gay icons. Ultra-feminine divas, including Debbie Harry, are an important part of gay culture. Many gay men love divas, and there's a whole gay subculture around them, as seen with drag queens. Rainbows are also a gay cultural icon - probably the single most important one - partly because of the song 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow' sung by Judy Garland, herself one of the original gay icon divas. The gay rights flag is a rainbow flag.

XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
34. Kevin Swanson is an odious patriarchal freak
Tue Jul 31, 2012, 10:30 PM
Jul 2012

He is not only the fringe of the fringe...

...he's also a pencilnecked jerkass.

LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
43. OMG - yuck!
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:29 AM
Aug 2012

Really, you should have posted a warning above that picture that it contained graphic stupidity and ugliness and might not be suitable for viewing by children or adults with a low tolerance for same.

NYC Liberal

(20,135 posts)
42. I like that he thinks there were no gay people (except "here and there") from 350 to 1850.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 08:50 AM
Aug 2012

Just keep your head in the sand, Kevin.

tanyev

(42,517 posts)
46. Hey, if he wants to eat a felt puppet on a bun, I say let him.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 09:41 AM
Aug 2012

As long as there's a camera crew filming it.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
51. Oh WTF??? Who stuck their hand up that false puppet prophet???
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 11:51 AM
Aug 2012

and made him speak gibberish like that
everyone go to a 2nd store for a Kermit/Piggy dolland/ or send a card wiith muppets on it to him!!!!

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
52. Nice he is advocating the death penalty for gays...
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:46 PM
Aug 2012

and scaring small children by saying that Kermit deserves the death penalty and he wants to eat Miss Piggy.

Bake

(21,977 posts)
55. They seem to have forgotten that the Romans executed/crucified Christians back in the day.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 01:38 PM
Aug 2012

They need a reminder. They're awfully quick with the violent talk.

Bake

And yes, I'm a Christian.

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