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Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:18 PM

So let me get this straight re: Hannity/Cohen

The prosecutors have been trying to review the documents they found during the Cohen raid. Cohen says they're protected by attorney-client privilege. The prosecutors are arguing that Cohen is basically not a lawyer with clients, therefore attorney-client privilege shouldn't apply. That's why Cohen was ordered to provide his client list.

By immediately making a statement saying "Cohen wasn't my lawyer, I barely knew the guy" isn't Hannity bolstering the prosecutors' case and making it more likely that they will get access to the documents?

It will be quite delicious if Hannity's denial ends up giving the prosecutors what they need to bring Trump down...

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Reply So let me get this straight re: Hannity/Cohen (Original post)
EarlG Apr 2018 OP
Sanity Claws Apr 2018 #1
poboy2 Apr 2018 #2
Hortensis Apr 2018 #35
garybeck Apr 2018 #81
Jarqui Apr 2018 #3
Cary Apr 2018 #18
Achilleaze Apr 2018 #41
Cha Apr 2018 #59
Funtatlaguy Apr 2018 #54
manor321 Apr 2018 #4
Midnight Writer Apr 2018 #83
herding cats Apr 2018 #5
getagrip_already Apr 2018 #14
herding cats Apr 2018 #16
TommyCelt Apr 2018 #92
getagrip_already Apr 2018 #93
kentuck Apr 2018 #6
blugbox Apr 2018 #7
flibbitygiblets Apr 2018 #11
LiberalFighter Apr 2018 #50
grumpyduck Apr 2018 #8
Marcuse Apr 2018 #10
WheelWalker Apr 2018 #32
Ilsa Apr 2018 #15
whopis01 Apr 2018 #58
Ilsa Apr 2018 #70
jpak Apr 2018 #9
mainstreetonce Apr 2018 #12
The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #19
uponit7771 Apr 2018 #21
Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2018 #36
Dem_in_Nebr. Apr 2018 #67
orleans Apr 2018 #13
OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #23
cab67 Apr 2018 #17
vi5 Apr 2018 #28
cab67 Apr 2018 #40
MLAA Apr 2018 #65
Marcuse Apr 2018 #29
fierywoman Apr 2018 #79
Beartracks Apr 2018 #96
grantcart Apr 2018 #20
Stonepounder Apr 2018 #78
grantcart Apr 2018 #80
blue cat Apr 2018 #84
H2O Man Apr 2018 #22
The Polack MSgt Apr 2018 #24
TygrBright Apr 2018 #25
OldHippieChick Apr 2018 #26
Hekate Apr 2018 #33
ms liberty Apr 2018 #39
femmedem Apr 2018 #43
tblue37 Apr 2018 #55
mountain grammy Apr 2018 #60
Ellipsis Apr 2018 #27
HopeAgain Apr 2018 #30
Dulcinea Apr 2018 #63
BlueJac Apr 2018 #31
OnDoutside Apr 2018 #34
slater71 Apr 2018 #37
mikeysnot Apr 2018 #95
Chemisse Apr 2018 #38
More_Cowbell Apr 2018 #48
Chemisse Apr 2018 #52
ismnotwasm Apr 2018 #42
orangecrush Apr 2018 #44
DesertRat Apr 2018 #45
Cha Apr 2018 #61
DesertRat Apr 2018 #62
herding cats Apr 2018 #72
Cha Apr 2018 #74
uponit7771 Apr 2018 #68
herding cats Apr 2018 #73
blueinredohio Apr 2018 #46
RVN VET71 Apr 2018 #49
japple Apr 2018 #47
C_U_L8R Apr 2018 #51
voteearlyvoteoften Apr 2018 #53
TheRealNorth Apr 2018 #56
spanone Apr 2018 #57
Raven123 Apr 2018 #64
WhiteTara Apr 2018 #66
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Beartracks Apr 2018 #97
rocktivity Apr 2018 #69
mbusby Apr 2018 #76
DumpDrumpf Apr 2018 #77
blugbox Apr 2018 #86
DumpDrumpf Apr 2018 #90
oasis Apr 2018 #82
stonecutter357 Apr 2018 #85
NastyRiffraff Apr 2018 #87
Orsino Apr 2018 #88
MGKrebs Apr 2018 #89
poboy2 Apr 2018 #94
PRETZEL Apr 2018 #91

Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:20 PM

1. Attorney-client privilege belongs to the client

If he wants to waive it or if he says it doesn't exist, then it doesn't exist.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:23 PM

2. I like this. -nt

 

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:43 PM

35. :) Poor Hannity, career rock and legal hard place.

He's also on TV saying he didn't have an attorney-client relationship then right after saying he'd hope those conversations were protected by attorney-client privilege.

I'm kinda thinking Fox's attorneys might not be advising him.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:05 AM

81. but the point is

that Hannity wants it both ways. he said on the air today that he never hired Cohen, never paid him. BUT he is also claiming attorney client privilege.

he is saying he's not a official client but he deserves client privilege simply because he was getting advice from a lawyer

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:35 PM

3. I hope they have audio of Hannity confessing his sexual liaisons to Cohen

Sean won't be able to complain because he blew off the privilege

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:12 PM

18. Gross

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:20 PM

41. He's not another republican kinkster, is he?

Enough -republicans really need to stop already with their sordid republican sexual perversions.

Hey morally bankrupt repubes: Think of the children.

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Response to Achilleaze (Reply #41)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:09 PM

59. lol@kinkster..

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Response to Jarqui (Reply #3)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:12 PM

54. I see what you did there.

ďBlew off the privilege ď
Well played.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:37 PM

4. Yes, also the fact that there are only three clients

Cohen is not doing much lawyering, is he?!

And now the third client is saying he's not "really" a client, then there are only two clients.

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Response to manor321 (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:14 AM

83. Not only that, he never gets paid.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:38 PM

5. That seems to be the the argument in a nutshell.

Also, if Hannity never "used" Cohen as an actual attorney, why would he be on the list if he isn't in any of the records? 🤔

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Response to herding cats (Reply #5)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:59 PM

14. could be cohen recorded calls with hannity about trump.....

and is trying to shield them. Of course, that wouldn't be covered by priv even if he was a client. priv doesn't work that way, but cohen isn't a very good attorney.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #14)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:01 PM

16. I had that same thought.

I suspect eventually we'll know exactly what it was.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:03 PM

92. "....cohen isn't a very good attorney."

So what?

So??

SO?????

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Response to TommyCelt (Reply #92)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:07 PM

93. soooooooo

he probably doesn't have a good working idea of what privileged comms are.

Just because hannity is a client doesn't mean that everything they discuss is privileged. It has to be a legal discussion concerning the client, not a third party, even if that third party is also a client.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:38 PM

6. Yep! hannity gave the wrong answer.

Cohen thought he was smart enough to cover for him. Now, everybody knows Cohen is not a lawyer. Hannity screwed his buds!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:43 PM

7. If Hannity knew what was good for him he would shut his mouth IMMEDIATELY

He is only digging his hole deeper.

Cohen is arguing that Hannity's name shouldn't have even been released because of attorney/client privilege...

While at the same time... Hannity is saying there isn't even an attorney/client relationship.

To me, that sounds like Hannity just gave the court permission to review anything and everything. Im I wrong in this thinking? The two arguments they are using seem to completely contradict themselves.

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Response to blugbox (Reply #7)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:49 PM

11. Like his buddy Rump, shutting his pie-hole is really not Hannity's strong point

Ironically the "taint team" would have normally excluded any info on Hannity. Cohen's legal incompetence is why we all know about this.

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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #11)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:44 PM

50. My thought too. Provided there was no connection with the case.

Considering it is Hannity and there are only 3 clients of which two are sexual in nature there may be a tie in. Especially with that special account Cohen created.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:43 PM

8. Waitaminnit...

I could SWEAR I read something this morning to the effect of Hannity saying he and Cohen had been friends for a long time and he had asked him for legal advice. Of course I can't find it now. Did I dream that?

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:49 PM

10. Yes, he said it. He also said he never paid Cohen in $.

You make my problem disappear and I will advocate for your other client like nothing ever known in media history.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #10)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:35 PM

32. Something for something.

This is getting quite delicious.

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Response to grumpyduck (Reply #8)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:59 PM

15. Yep. Hannity tried to disengage at first, then realized

he can't deny his ties to Cohen.

If hannity has never formally retained cohen, and never received an invoice from cohen, it sounds less and less like an attorney-client relationship.

ETTD: everything trump touches dies.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #15)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:08 PM

58. That is not correct

You said:


If hannity has never formally retained cohen, and never received an invoice from cohen, it sounds less and less like an attorney-client relationship.


You do not need to retain an attorney or receive an invoice from them to have attorney-client privilege.

If that were the case, then merely interviewing a lawyer for potential hire could result in you releasing information that would be unprotected. The act of attempting to initiate an attorney-client relationship invokes the privilege even if the relationship is never entered into.

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Response to whopis01 (Reply #58)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:38 PM

70. Thank you. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:44 PM

9. High School dropout Hannity is the sharpest knife in the drawer

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:51 PM

12. Hannity said there was no third party involved.

So whatever his legal problem was,it was with himself?

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:16 PM

19. Best hammer in the bag... NT

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Response to The Polack MSgt (Reply #19)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:17 PM

21. +1

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:49 PM

36. He is one of tRump's "best people". . . . nt

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Response to jpak (Reply #9)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:32 PM

67. Sharpest knife in the drawer at Faux Snooze.

Doesn't set the bar very high does it?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 04:59 PM

13. lol!


Sean Hannity
(@seanhannity)
Michael Cohen has never represented me in any matter. I never retained him, received an invoice, or paid legal fees. I have occasionally had brief discussions with him about legal questions about which I wanted his input and perspective.
58 mins ago ∑ Twitter

Sean Hannity
(@seanhannity)
I assumed those conversations were confidential, but to be absolutely clear they never involved any matter between me and a third-party.
57 mins ago ∑ Twitter

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Response to orleans (Reply #13)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:20 PM

23. This just gets funnier

and funnier. I can't help doing cartwheels in my mind.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:10 PM

17. Of all the right-wing blowhards in broadcast media...

...Hannity perhaps has the least amount of intellectual prowess. He really isn't very smart, as far as I can tell.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:25 PM

28. He is without a doubt the only one of them...

....that I think fully believes every ounce of his own bullshit.

He is the epitome of the typical Republican: a middle aged, white male know-nothing, barely educated blowhard that thinks he knows everything and will be more than happy to tell you about it whether you want to hear it or not.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #28)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:17 PM

40. he's an ultracrepidarian.

Last edited Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:58 PM - Edit history (1)

That's one of my favorite new words.

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Response to cab67 (Reply #40)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:47 PM

65. Hope it is as creepy as it sounds, off to look it up!

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Response to cab67 (Reply #17)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:29 PM

29. Hannity thinks the fact that he did not compensate Cohen with cash is a positive for him.

Hopefully Cohenís files will become public sooner rather than later.

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Response to Marcuse (Reply #29)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:13 PM

79. Any possibility it was the other way around, and Cohen compensated Hannity

with cash (presumably to sweeten him up to talk nice about our now pee-Resident Spanky?)

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Response to cab67 (Reply #17)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:43 PM

96. That's why he interrupts and blabs and bullies so much.

He thinks aggressive talkiness makes him look smart.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:17 PM

20. No privilege existed, lol

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Response to grantcart (Reply #20)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:59 PM

78. Being retired we tend to watch a LOT of TV News - MSNBC and CNN

(Disclaimer: I am not now nor have I ever been a lawyer) The question of privilege seems to be a somewhat complicated one. From what I have hard various lawyers say:

1. If I am at a party and see a casual acquaintance who happens to be a lawyer. If I engage him in conversation and ask him a legal question and he give me his legal opinion and no one else is around to hear our conversation, then privilege.

2. If I swing by the office of a friend who is a lawyer and we go out to lunch and chat about our families, our vacations, blah, blah, then no privilege attaches.

Money does NOT have to change hands for privilege to attach nor does there need to be anything in writing. Like I say, from what I have heard, it's complicated.

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Response to Stonepounder (Reply #78)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 11:27 PM

80. Not a lawyer but in a family of lawyers

Re:

1) If you ask your friend a question that is generic and non personal "I have a question about the law in this state. If someone does X would that be illegal?" would not invoke privlege

If however you said "I need some direction because yesterday I did something I think may be against the law" there would be privilege.

If your friend says "before I answer that give me $ 10 so that you engage me" there would be privilege.


Hannity's comments seem to undermine any claim of privilege but what is really going to matter is what is in the files because anything that is in the furtherance of a crime is not privileged.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #80)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 10:22 AM

84. He did say last night

That he may have given him $10, last night on his show.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:18 PM

22. Recommended.

It can't get any stranger, can it?

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:21 PM

24. Good to see you here H2O Man

Hope you're feeling better

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:22 PM

25. Hey, Dude, good to see you back!

Hope you're takin' it easy.

affectionately,
Bright

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:23 PM

26. It probably can. You and I are

just having to get used to this new bizarre reality that is "Trumpworld". Perhaps it will be a new part of Disneyland for descendants to come.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:37 PM

33. Hey there, good to see you back

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:14 PM

39. With this crowd yes, it can get stranger, lol!

And I am very happy to see you here and commenting. I hope you're feeling better!

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:22 PM

43. Good to hear from you!

It's a good news day here at DU, but seeing you post is the best news of all.

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:15 PM

55. Welcome back, H2O Man! I hope all is well with you now. nt

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Response to H2O Man (Reply #22)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:11 PM

60. Happy to see your post..

means you're on the mend? Hope all is well.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:23 PM

27. Heh... delicious was exactly what I was going to write.

There's some sort of bizarre Lewis Prothero analagy in there.... just a wonderful twist to our reality.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:32 PM

30. Hannity is changing his tune

First he talks about a 10 Dollar de minimus payment, now he says he talked to Cohen about some real estate deals.

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Response to HopeAgain (Reply #30)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:28 PM

63. Trump real estate? nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:34 PM

31. Yummy stuff!

Good old food for thought! Squirm Hannity.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 05:41 PM

34. Does that mean Cohen lied to the court about Hannity ?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:02 PM

37. Why did Cohen say Hannity was a client? This smells.

Hannity basically called Cohen a liar. He said Cohen never represented him. Somebody is a liar. I hope it`s Hannity.

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Response to slater71 (Reply #37)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:40 PM

95. Of course he lied

that is all he knows. That is why he makes 36 million dollars a year.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:10 PM

38. I'm not sure I'm comfortable with the Feds being able to look at ALL Cohen's client files.

Based on Cohen not being a "lawyer with clients"?

If his clients believed he was acting as their attorney and he was a licensed lawyer, I don't see how they can just open them all up and have a hey day with them, if they weren't part of the search warrant.

Of course that concern won't prevent me from enjoying the acute discomfort of everyone involved.

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Response to Chemisse (Reply #38)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:39 PM

48. The Feds are proposing a "taint" team

Which inserts itself to review the documents for attorney-client privilege before law enforcement gets to see them.

That would, presumably, weed out any actual protected documents.

They had to jump through some serious hoops to even get those documents. Ordinarily, they would have had to subpoena them and Cohen would have had to produce them. So in this case they had to convince a magistrate that (1) there were crimes being committed, as evidenced by those documents, and that (2) Cohen would likely destroy the documents after he was served with a subpoena.

Attorney-client privilege is a serious matter. It becomes less serious if the lawyer is not actually practicing as a lawyer. Attorney-client privilege applies when a lawyer is dispensing legal advice, NOT when he's committing crimes with his clients.

You can see how you wouldn't want someone to, say, go to one of the worst ABA-rated law schools in the country just so that he became a licensed attorney and everything he did would automatically be subject to attorney-client privilege, even criminal conspiracies.

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Response to More_Cowbell (Reply #48)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:50 PM

52. I knew most of what you wrote, but your last paragraph makes a good point.

Clearly there is plenty that we can't know about the Cohen raid and its aftermath. It wouldn't surprise me at all if Cohen was facilitating criminal activities on behalf of Trump and Hannity both.

On edit - I knew most of what you wrote, since I've been following this, but I appreciate the effort you took to explain it.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:22 PM

42. Thats what it sounds like to be

More of the shitshow that is the Trump presidency

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:23 PM

44. Karma



What a glorious day!!!!



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:23 PM

45. So Hannity is saying that Cohen lied to the court?

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:19 PM

61. Josh Marshall Tweets..

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Response to Cha (Reply #61)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:25 PM

62. Mahalo, Cha

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Response to Cha (Reply #61)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:45 PM

72. Yes, this exactly!

This is what I've been saying since I heard.

They're hiding something, but as usual they're doing it in the most asinine, backward way possible.

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Response to herding cats (Reply #72)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:58 PM

74. ..

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:37 PM

68. +1, This is the bigger news IMHO !!!

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Response to DesertRat (Reply #45)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:48 PM

73. He lied, but Hannity wants attorney client privilege...

Because Cohen is too shameful to be associated with, but don't look at any records with Hannity's name attached!

Speak of a tangled web.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:23 PM

46. I can't wait until Hannitys hooker liaison is exposed.

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Response to blueinredohio (Reply #46)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:40 PM

49. Please let it be a rent boy!

Please, please, please, please!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:24 PM

47. Cohen: "He was a coffee boy."

Trump: "He was a covfefe boy."

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 06:50 PM

51. Hannity says he never paid Cohen

Well what if Cohen was paying off Hannity?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:05 PM

53. Must have been another Hannity

Next excuse heh

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:53 PM

56. Right Wing Conspiracy

If I had to venture a guess, Hannity and Cohen were probably coordinating messaging. My guess is that Cohen thought that if he said Hannity was a client, then their discussions would fall under attorney-client privilege.

I doubt anything will come of this unless there is also evidence that Hannity or Fox news knows of legal wrongdoing and are actively collaborating to sow disinformation. Even then, I don't know if running a disinformation campaign would be enough to convict Hannity of anything.

However, I do believe that Trump and Rupert "struck a deal" in July-August 2015 (around the time Trump made those disparaging remarks about Megan Kelly). If Mueller uncovered any sort of deal/payment for favorable coverage on Fox during the primaries, then things could get interesting.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 07:54 PM

57. K&R...

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 08:36 PM

64. Hannity wants it both ways

He wants to assert attorney-client privilege AND try to protect whatever integrity he has left by distancing himself from Cohen. Not gonna happen

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:23 PM

66. He also said that he paid he "10 bucks or something" so that he

had client attorney privilege. His mouth has two sides.

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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #66)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:40 PM

71. Nah, he has his mouth and his butt. They both say different things.

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #71)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:17 PM

75. Then there is his little brain

hanging out between the two.

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #71)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 02:37 PM

97. And yet they both make similar sounds. n/t



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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 09:38 PM

69. TMZ: "On his radio show...Sean Hannity...den(ied) that Michael Cohen ever represented him...

He also tweeted that he "ASSUMED those conversations were confidential."
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Response to rocktivity (Reply #69)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:45 PM

76. Assumed....

...makes an ass out of you and me.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Mon Apr 16, 2018, 10:53 PM

77. He hires the best people

 

Oh Lord, why ya doin this 2 is? A lot of us didnít grow up/live on easy street and this is like the last indignity. Damn. Itís like when Willy Wonka was gonna kick out Charlie & his grandpa. It sucks. Bad.

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Response to DumpDrumpf (Reply #77)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:58 AM

86. YOU LOSE! YOU GET NOTHING!! GOOD DAY, SIR!

Sorry, I had to. God that feeling. You are correct, it sucks.

But I love seeing these criminals get what they deserve. I'll be screaming my title for this post at them as they are hauled off to prison.

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Response to blugbox (Reply #86)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:00 PM

90. Totally

 

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:19 AM

82. Cohen's a sham lawyer, atty./client claim shouldn't be honored. nt

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 11:23 AM

85. K&R

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:09 PM

87. Yep, you're right

Attorney-client privilege is limited to when there's, you know, an attorney and a client. If Sean says Cohen wasn't his lawyer, that should settle the privilege (or lack of) question. Chats Cohen & Hannity may have had about real estate or whatever don't count.

I would imagine Cohen isn't too happy with Hannity right now!

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:44 PM

88. But the filter/taint team is already reviewing documents, right?

No stay has been granted?

But Cohen not being a full-time lawyer is only part of the government's position. The no-knock warrant acknowledges the likelihood that Cohen is and has been committing crimes, the investigation of which supersedes attorney-client privilege.

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 12:49 PM

89. I just want to try to recap- maybe just for my own benefit.

Trying to put this all in context.

- The FBI raids Cohen.
- Cohen claims atty/client privilege protects some or all of the seized material.
- Judge says who are your clients so we can decide.
- He names three: Trump (pants problem), Broidy (pants problem), Hannity (real estate advice?).
*Presumably this means Cohen has had some contact with Hannity that he thought he couldn't avoid admitting that he had.
- Hannity inexplicably and quickly appears to distance himself from Cohen.

Why would Hannity do that? What's wrong with just agreeing and saying that yes, we have a relationship and I want whatever records there are to be protected?

1. If what Hannity says is true and it's just some real estate advice, then fine, let the taint team see the file and move on. More support for the witch hunt meme I suppose.

2. Did Hannity just overreact? Seeing Cohen going down in flames and wanted to run the other way? But why? I thought they were friends? And they are both certainly supporters of Trump. Hannity (apparently) has been pretty much driving the "witch hunt" bandwagon for weeks or months now. Why would he suddenly cut and run in this case? It sounds as if he didn't even expect to be named, publicly or not. He didn't even really consider himself a client. Did he unexpectedly hear his name in court and have a panic attack? Took some oxycontin and it clouded his judgement?

3. Or is there more? Both of Cohen's other named clients had pants problems. As far as we know, that is what Cohen does, takes care of that. And he apparently does it in a way in which (he thinks) money is hard to trace. Interesting in light of Hannity's
quick statement that he hadn't paid Cohen anything, except, well, maybe $10.

I think I'll take door #3, Monty. Which means; If #1 and #2 seem unlikely, the judge is unlikely to let them protect the Hannity Files?

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Response to MGKrebs (Reply #89)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:14 PM

94. Hannity mentioned 'real estate' advice.

 

Like, Cohen took out a home equity loan to pay Stormy 'real estate' advice?
Did Cohen do it for Hannity too?

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Response to EarlG (Original post)

Tue Apr 17, 2018, 01:02 PM

91. Who says all payments have to be cash,

any type of monetary exchange (like say use of a private jet maybe) would qualify as payment for services rendered.

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