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Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:15 AM

Trump has made big time enemies.

He has made enemies at the FBI, Justice Dept, the special council, congress, etc. These are patriots who are going to destroy Trump. Trump is not going to win. It's impossible.

Trump is one of the most hated sons of bitches in our countries history. His days are numbered.

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Reply Trump has made big time enemies. (Original post)
shockey80 Apr 2018 OP
dameatball Apr 2018 #1
Kirk Lover Apr 2018 #2
mucifer Apr 2018 #3
Scarsdale Apr 2018 #4
mercuryblues Apr 2018 #34
lame54 Apr 2018 #5
Volaris Apr 2018 #7
lame54 Apr 2018 #8
Volaris Apr 2018 #11
lame54 Apr 2018 #17
elocs Apr 2018 #20
Volaris Apr 2018 #37
elocs Apr 2018 #38
Volaris Apr 2018 #40
djacq Apr 2018 #6
Nitram Apr 2018 #9
Texin Apr 2018 #10
Corgigal Apr 2018 #25
Kaleva Apr 2018 #30
DemoTex Apr 2018 #12
RandomAccess Apr 2018 #13
True Blue American Apr 2018 #31
Nasruddin Apr 2018 #14
PatSeg Apr 2018 #15
PatrickforO Apr 2018 #16
Kablooie Apr 2018 #18
Downtown Hound Apr 2018 #22
bitterross Apr 2018 #19
elocs Apr 2018 #21
MBS Apr 2018 #24
BobTheSubgenius Apr 2018 #23
vi5 Apr 2018 #26
Va Lefty Apr 2018 #27
vi5 Apr 2018 #33
vlyons Apr 2018 #28
onethatcares Apr 2018 #29
Wellstone ruled Apr 2018 #32
vlyons Apr 2018 #35
Cha Apr 2018 #36
Golden Raisin Apr 2018 #39

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:16 AM

1. I hope the number is a low one.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:18 AM

2. If there were no crimes committed etc then they wouldn't be destroying him...so

 

trashbag can thank his own damn self.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 11:18 AM

3. The problem is that he is more popular than congress so they will keep supporting him

until that is no longer true.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #3)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:26 PM

4. So they THINK.

How popular would a person have to be to be more popular than politicians, especially gop members.?

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Response to Scarsdale (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:43 PM

34. trump

(PPP) What do you have a higher opinion of

trump 28%
lice54%

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:36 PM

5. Will they indict a sitting president?

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Response to lame54 (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:52 PM

7. Yes...unless Mueller has some idea that the SC would block it.

Most president's, I'd say no. But then, most of them haven't been outright traitorous criminals.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #7)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:57 PM

8. This is uncharted territory...

I'm not sharing your confidence

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Response to lame54 (Reply #8)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:16 PM

11. My suspicion would be that the word from the SC would be

Impeach first, convict in the Senate, and then charge with whatever crimes are appropriate after removal.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:43 PM

17. If we don't flip the senate...

By a large #
That ain't happening

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Response to Volaris (Reply #11)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:52 PM

20. "Impeach first, convict in the Senate". Yes that will happen when pigs fly.

And in Ford-like fashion a President Pence will pardon Trump of everything he could ever be charged with if Trump were to resign.

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Response to elocs (Reply #20)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:12 PM

37. Not unless pence's dirty ass gets impeached, too...

If Russia helped get the TICKET elected, then the TICKET needs to be removed. Hopefully (and I've read suggestions that this is the case) Mueller has evidence that will require only that outcome.

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Response to Volaris (Reply #37)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:43 PM

38. Impeachment without conviction in the Senate doesn't remove either Trump or Pence.

Reality sucks, but it is what it is.

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Response to elocs (Reply #38)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:47 PM

40. Oh I'm aware...

But drip drip drip...EVERY DAY TILL NOVEMBER, and with each ripple, our chances of control of both chambers go up.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 12:39 PM

6. Add 60+% Americans and 70+% International

Thatís a lot of enemies.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:00 PM

9. Trump was insulting both the FBI and the CIA even before he was elected.

Vey stupid move. Very dangerous move.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:10 PM

10. Shockey80, everything you said is true. But tRump is the luckiest son of a bitch who ever lived.

No one of this disgusting, loathsome, traitorous, obscene, lying, cheating nature has EVER been able to sustainably maintain such a high flying profile for as long as this vile creature.

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Response to Texin (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:13 PM

25. He's not lucky

He just found out what number with those dollar signs made his problems go away. He thought everyone could be bought. Can't imagine that anyone couldn't be.

He isn't aware that some people do things for ethics and values. Gonna find out the hard way.

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Response to Texin (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:28 PM

30. Winning the election was the unluckiest thing that happened to him

Unfit for office and unwilling to learn and adapt, he's trashed his own and his families reputation and legacy.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:16 PM

12. If the Rule of Law does not get him ..

.. his lifestyle will (suicide-by-fork). And Lifestyle is ahead by a furlong.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:19 PM

13. While this is true, and I'm sure those participating in

 

bringing him down are relishing their tasks, this particular concept is NOT a good thing to promote.

I believe our law enforcement people and justice system are NOT doing this out of political spite. And that's the truth we should be promoting.

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Response to RandomAccess (Reply #13)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:30 PM

31. At this point in time

The only people I have any faith in is our FBI and Justice Department.

People like Trump flourish, but sooner or later they are brought down.

I know I sound like the 37TH Psalm, but I do believe this.

For the wicked shall flourish like the Green Bay 🌲. But do not fear,they will be brought down

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:26 PM

14. Jefferson Davis

"Trump is one of the most hated sons of bitches in our countries history. His days are numbered."

Jefferson Davis, war hero, senator, and secretary of war, turned traitor and was
the president of the confederacy. He died at 81 after a business trip, 25 years after
the fall of said rebel state.

Aaron Burr, killer of Alexander Hamilton, former VP tried (but acquitted) for treason,
lived out the next 30-odd years of life quietly in NY.

If this is any indication, Mr Trump and co will be wearing beautiful gold-plated skates -
at the very worst.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:28 PM

15. Oh yes, it blows my mind

how easily Trump throws people under the bus, even people who are avid supporters like Jeff Sessions. Then to make an enemy out of the intelligence community on top of the justice department, that is insanity. These people have unfathomable resources and Trump is giving them reason to use them. It is like he is daring them to take him down.

How dumb can one man be?

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:38 PM

16. Well, Trump himself is disgusting beyond words. He has brought shame on this nation and everyone

in it.

That said, I really, really don't want to think he will be going down because he has made 'big-time enemies,' or that he is 'one of the most hated sons of bitches in our country's history.'

To me, that is this same 'deep state' theory that is being published on right wing websites, and propagated by other right wing propaganda channels.

Instead of that, let us think that:


Trump will go down because the people in the FBI, Justice, special council and congress have sworn oaths to protect the Constitution. Let us hope their loyalty is to this nation, and by extension we, the people, rather than merely that they are removing a sitting president, no matter how pathetic, because they are 'pissed' at him.

I hate to split hairs, but this is the way I see this OP.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:46 PM

18. But hes also...

One of the most maniacally worshipped assholes in our countryís history. His rubes are legend.
I wonder how they will react when he plummets into oblivion.

It would be nice if they just followed him.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #18)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:55 PM

22. They will scream, holler, whine, complain, and threaten revolution

And then quietly fade away. Mark my words. In a few years most of them will deny ever having supported Trump.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:52 PM

19. I think you are correct. I sure hope so! /nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 01:55 PM

21. Just remember Deep Throat, former FBI deputy director Mark Felt.

The current FBI deputy director is Rod Rosenstein. Interesting.

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Response to elocs (Reply #21)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:09 PM

24. " " " " n/t

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:07 PM

23. I've often thought about the eventual outcome.

I was totally gung-ho for prison, but now I'd be satisfied with complete asset forfeiture and exile. Preferably to an awful `-stan country` where it`s winter 60 months a year.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:19 PM

26. Nothing is going to happen to him.

 

Even if the D's take the Senate it will be by such a small amount of 1 or 2 Senator's votes, that it will be easy enough for the Republicans to find the number of conservative (oh, I'm sorry....."bipartisan" Dems needed to neuter anything that needs to be done.

I'd like to be wrong but I don't see any individual or group with the fortitude and/or numbers needed to do what is needed to be done to damage Trump.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #26)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:22 PM

27. Sadly I agree

best case scenario is we take back the House and Senate and stall his "agenda" till '20 or his rage causes him to stroke out.

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Response to Va Lefty (Reply #27)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:39 PM

33. Even that is predicated on the belief...

 

...that Democrats will have the fortitude to completely stall his agenda as the Republicans did to the Dems.

The party is too in love with it's own "high road" I fear to do that.

I'm not saying he'll be able to get anything major through, but if there is a Supreme Court vacancy there is no doubt that Dems won't pull what the Republicans did. No way, no how.

All it takes is for a David Brooks or Chuck Todd type to "tsk-tsk" Dems on anything and enough of them will buckle like cheap belts to undercut any full party efforts.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:24 PM

28. Trump is the new Benedict Arnold

yes he is not only a vulgar criminal, but also a traitor.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:25 PM

29. is Vegas making book

on his final day?

I'd like a part of that action.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:37 PM

32. You mess with the Agencies,you

are taken down by the Agencies.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 02:50 PM

35. Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin

After we take the House in Jan 19, Trump will probably be impeached by the House, but not convicted by the Senate. So he will be around for another 2 years to veto Dem legislation out of vengence, pass executive orders that stink and punish. But his wings will be clipped. He will posture and rant and continue to embarrass us and degrade the Presidency.

So after 2018, that is the time for our Dem stars to declare candidacy for Senate seats, governorships, and the WH. It will be a time to present a Dem vision for a domestic and international agenda. It will also be a time to emphasize civility, decency, integrity, and personal honor. Wouldn't that sound sweet for a change?

Trump's brand is trash. If his kids are facing criminal prosecution, it will be very difficult for them to ever get loans to play real estate. Plus there's all those NY, NJ, and VA state charges that are not going away.

Personally, I almost feel sorry for the lot of them. Wasted lives every one. Degenerate people ending in ignominy. With their privileges and assets, they could have lived virtuous lives and accomplished great things that were of benefit to others. But no, they chased after money, privilege, and fame.

Dan 1:28 - "Mene, mene, tekel, upharsin" - The handwriting on the wall at Belshazzar's feast. Roughly translated as Beshazzar's kingdom having been weighed and measured, it was found wanting, and thus given away Medes and Persians. The hand, having written, moves on.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 03:32 PM

36. Yes, and I take comfort in all the

Powerful enemies that IQ45 has made trying to hide his criminal, traitorous ugly self with Obstructing Justice.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Apr 15, 2018, 04:46 PM

39. I can't imagine the CIA isn't also seriously pissed off at him.

Early on he went out of his way to badmouth and attack both the FBI and the CIA. That said, I have grave doubts that he's going to be stopped, even if Mueller eventually comes out with blockbuster evidence. The Republican Congress is complicit and has had Trump's back all along through every degradation and hammer-blow to the rule of law and our Democracy. Given how our election was mutilated and manipulated in 2016 I also have grave doubts that a 2018 "Blue Wave" won't also be sabotaged. Hope I'm wrong.

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