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Tue Apr 10, 2018, 05:43 AM

 

I'm not going to engage

In an effort to divert from an honest discussion about why some of us who are inextricably joined reach different conclusions.

We can talk about differences right here.

Effie Black and others could not be more correct in making the point that the Sanders idea that economic equality will effectuate racial equality is naive at best and insulting and oblivious of the nature of socialist and Marxist black liberation at worst.

On the other hand, there is a huge percentage of our community which gets little or nothing from what what we as a party have accomplished because of what we have promoted to get there. If we can't have that discussion because we are so divided that we can't even see what unifies us, we have problems.

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Reply I'm not going to engage (Original post)
GaryCnf Apr 2018 OP
NCTraveler Apr 2018 #1
Blue_true Apr 2018 #2
GaryCnf Apr 2018 #3
NCTraveler Apr 2018 #4
betsuni Apr 2018 #5
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TexasTowelie Apr 2018 #6
GaryCnf Apr 2018 #8
betsuni Apr 2018 #9
GaryCnf Apr 2018 #11
MaryMagdaline Apr 2018 #7
GaryCnf Apr 2018 #10
MineralMan Apr 2018 #12
George II Apr 2018 #13
ehrnst Apr 2018 #14

Response to GaryCnf (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 05:47 AM

1. Second op in how long where you are talking about another DUer?

 

Your thoughts can stand on their own.

On the other hand, there is a huge percentage of our community which gets little or nothing from what what we as a party have accomplished because of what we have promoted to get there. If we can't have that discussion because we are so divided that we can't even see what unifies us, we have problems.


Words have meanings. Is it possible you are trying to discuss something righteous, which you are, and the delivery was poor and distracting?

Speak your peace without poorly writing a biography about another DU’er.

Edit to add: You have a voice in the conversation and I would like to hear it. From your writing I can tell you will understand what I mean about delivery.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:02 AM

2. Yeah, that last paragraph was very unclear, and the premise wrong in so many ways.

It all seems to come back to the idea that all policy must have the glow of perfection about it, such a thing has never happened in the history of humankind. Maybe some want a benevolent dictator, if there ever can possibly be such a thing.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:09 AM

3. I saw your earlier post

 

And I have to say I am starting to believe. I thought I had done a better job when I saw the early replies and, not that I am defensive at all, figured that the negative posts which appeared overnight were just attacking the messenger to silence the message. When I see posts like yours I have to consider whether the early responses were the aberrations and I really did totally fail.

Thank you for your observations.

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Response to GaryCnf (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 06:21 AM

4. What you want to discuss is important.

 

Big time.

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Response to GaryCnf (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:33 AM

5. Just propose already.

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Response to betsuni (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:35 AM

6. !

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Response to betsuni (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:49 AM

8. Does this mean you don't accept? N/T

 

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Response to GaryCnf (Reply #8)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:53 AM

9. I'm not Effie!

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Response to betsuni (Reply #9)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:57 AM

11. Nice back!

 

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Response to GaryCnf (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:44 AM

7. As long as we are calling people out why don't we as liberals follow the lead of

Bob Reich? He has been pounding the economic equality, high wage, pro-Union, pro-manufacturing message for decades without EVER putting aside the fight for racial and sexual equality. As Democrats, we need to fight on all grounds for equality.

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Response to MaryMagdaline (Reply #7)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 07:55 AM

10. Absolutely

 

But we still need voices focused first on that majority of black Americans who are still unable to take advantage of the steps taken in the 60s.

But Reich is a good voice regarding the big picture. Thanks

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Response to GaryCnf (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 08:27 AM

12. Again? Why not just post your ideas without

reference to another poster? Why not just be direct about what you are trying to say? I suggest you simply speak for yourself, rather than spinning off from someone else's points.

I think your current approach fails to make its point.

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Response to GaryCnf (Original post)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 08:30 AM

13. Why have you started calling out EffieBlack in your OPs all of a sudden, wording them....

....as though you're "praising" her but not really doing so.

If you have something to say about what another DUer has said elsewhere, why not do so in the threads to which you're vaguely referring?

You say you're "not going to engage" and then go on and do it.

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Response to George II (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 10, 2018, 10:38 AM

14. Like so many "I'm just going to leave this here" posts

 

where you just know, they're gonna be back "engaging" with any and every post that doesn't praise the OP...

And here we go.

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