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(and, in a companion piece, ibm's role in the Holocaust https://www.huffingtonpost.com/edwin-black/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691.html https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210445880)
Secret use of census info helped send Japanese Americans to internment camps in WWII
Children at the Manzanar internment camp in California in 1943; photo taken by photographer Toyo Miyatake. (National Park Service/AP)
The Census Bureau plans to ask people if they are U.S. citizens in the 2020 count of the nations population, igniting fears that the information could be used to target those in the country illegally.
Census officials said the question is being reinstated for the first time since 1950 to help enforce the Voting Rights Act and that there are safeguards in place to prevent any abuse of the information. It is illegal to release information that would identify individuals or families.
But that does not mean that census data has not been used to target specific populations in the past.
In fact, information from the 1940 Census was secretly used in one of the worst violations of constitutional rights in U.S. history: the internment of Japanese Americans during World War II. In papers presented in 2000 and 2007, historian Margo J. Anderson of the University of Wisconsin at Milwaukee and statistician William Seltzer of Fordham University found evidence that census officials cooperated with the government, providing data to target Japanese Americans.
https://videos.posttv.com/washpost-production/U_S._Office_of_War_Information/20180330/5abe9e90e4b09050267fd692/5abe9e9fe4b05fcebe3f4194_1439412153584-wn5qra_t_1522441898696_640_360_600.mp4
The 1943 film "Japanese Relocation" tried to justify the government's decision to move people of Japanese ancestry from the West Coast to internment camps. (U.S. Office of War Information)
The Japanese American community had long suspected the Census Bureau of playing a role in the push to banish 120,000 Japanese Americans, mostly living on the West Coast, into nearly a dozen internment camps after the bombing of Pearl Harbor on Dec. 7, 1941, according to former commerce secretary Norman Mineta. Mineta, who lived in San Jose, was 11 when he and his family were sent to live in an internment camp in Heart Mountain, Wyo.
For decades, though, census officials denied that they had played any role in providing information.
According to Anderson and Seltzer, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and military intelligence agencies began pushing in late 1939 to relax census confidentiality rules in the hope of accessing data on individuals. But the effort was opposed by Census Bureau Director William Lane Austin. After the 1940 presidential election, however, Austin was forced to retire. He was replaced by J.C. Capt, who backed efforts to remove confidentiality provisions. Capts efforts helped clear the way for other agencies to access the information on Japanese Americans.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/retropolis/wp/2018/04/03/secret-use-of-census-info-helped-send-japanese-americans-to-internment-camps-in-wwii/?utm_term=.6fc9c7889b52
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)to take GOOD care of ourselves. 330,000,000 people in every possible personal and geographic variation of needs can't be served without good, solid numbers and lots of them.
The biggest problem with the citizenship question is not that it wouldn't give us valuable information we really could use to good purpose, but rather that it would cause people to hide from the census, resulting in warped undercounts. And that's the biggest purpose.
The anti-government/anti-tax people driving this have always been far more interested in corrupting the census to cut taxes and services to all of us than in persecuting minority groups.
We've always fought them. Nothing new this year. We need to say yes to balance and good sense, yes to science and knowledge, and a huge no to both them and to the kind of paranoia that unfortunately serves them all too well.
Eliot Rosewater
(31,106 posts)malthaussen
(17,175 posts)... at least, if one's marriage is same-sex or opposite-sex, which is information for which I can see no legitimate value to the government.
-- Mal
niyad
(113,052 posts)off at the moment. . . . .
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)I did two tours with the Senseless Bureau, and people were pissed off then about having to say what their house was worth.
-- Mal
niyad
(113,052 posts)magicarpet
(14,119 posts)* sew a patch into the outside breast area of their clothing ?
* Tattoo some identifying mark on their inside wrist.... Oh hell this ain't no beauty pageant - slap a tattoo right on the center of their forehead. A right up front and in your face - Scarlet Letter of universal hatred. That way the masses can more easily and readily join in on the hatefest.
Full strength industrial - Fascism.
MAGA !
USA - USA - USA !
whopis01
(3,491 posts)You have to know who gets the pink triangles and who gets the yellow stars and who gets the black triangles.
It just is not of use to a legitimate government.
Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)The census has, in the past, tried extremely hard to make LGBT individuals invisible.
In the 1990 census, as an individual, I marked married on my census form. Then I went to work and dutifully recoded it (or others like it) to domestic partner. Our instructions were to recode any same gender couple who had dared claim to be married to domestic partner.
We have been actively lobbying for inclusion for years. Being counted means being able to command $support - for example - for LGBT health initiatives; having legitimate numbers about how many of us there are keeps conservatives from insisting that there aren't any (or so few it doesn't matter) LGBT individuals.
https://sageusa.org/newsevents/news.cfm?ID=376
Gay and transgender workers,* however, will not be discussed in the coverage because the bureau does not collect any demographic data on sexual orientation or gender identity. As other research suggests that gay and transgender people have some of the highest rates of unemployment in our country, the bureau should take steps to add these questions as soon as possible.
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/lgbt/news/2012/09/06/36134/critical-government-surveys-omit-gay-and-transgender-people/
Knowledge is power.
malthaussen
(17,175 posts)The government should treat everyone equally. It is a principle embodied in our founding document. "Everybody" is not a word that should be hard to understand.
Of course, that is why I say "should," because there is a difference between "ought" and "is."
Now, in view of the widespread discrimination against the "other" of one's choice, it becomes an interesting question whether identifying one as an "other" will lead to programs that help eliminate or ameliorate their oppression, or whether it will lead to easier identification of those "others," and thus further oppression. In light of current government tendencies, I would be very wary of any procedure that might paint a target on someone's back.
-- Mal
Wellstone ruled
(34,661 posts)The GOP gift that will keep on giving.
hlthe2b
(102,119 posts)face what may well be coming...
niyad
(113,052 posts)from "Handmaid's Tale" on. . . the coming days look very dystopian.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)niyad
(113,052 posts)Hekate
(90,552 posts)niyad
(113,052 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,559 posts)Every day, things get a little worse...unless they get a lot worse.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Unless you walk from state to state. Even then I bet you get stopped plenty of times and asked for ID.
Flying, driving, train. All require "papers".
blake2012
(1,294 posts)I also don't have to when riding the local train or Amtrak.
fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)When I ride Amtrak, I always have to show ID (carolinas) . Don't have any other train service other than Amtrak though.
It wasn't all that long ago (1990's) that I could get an airplane without showing ID. Just a ticket. More than a few times I fly on someone else's ticket.
MichMan
(11,868 posts)fescuerescue
(4,448 posts)Or TSA.
And the plane or train takes us across the border(s).
Younger folks think this is normal. But it's a product of the 1990's.
kairos12
(12,842 posts)niyad
(113,052 posts)Ms. Toad
(33,992 posts)(I think their point was that it was used by a Democrat, but it still seems to me to perfectly illustrate what the concerns are.)
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)to fill out our census forms as "immigrant".
BumRushDaShow
(128,441 posts)We were dragged kicking and screaming and shackled and beaten and branded and raped and forced to work with no pay. And even then weren't considered "citizens", let alone human beings.... simply chattle... until we were eventually deemed "3/5ths" of a human, but only to pad the count in this self-same "census" so that the southern slave plantation owners could get more representatives in their states.
iluvtennis
(19,833 posts)MichMan
(11,868 posts)The Japanese internment was one of the most despicable acts any US president has ever done. Far worse than anything done by Reagan, GW Bush or Trump for that matter.
Don't understand why so many progressives consider FDR as was one of the greatest ever. Who cares if innocent people of Japanese descent were put in prison camps; he created Social Security Yeah!!!
niyad
(113,052 posts)properties, goods and livelihoods were stolen.