Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:28 PM

nadine_mn (3,702 posts)

I think the daughter had something to do with poison attack in England

Watching the Richard Engel on assignment piece...
Mentioned that that the man had lost his wife and son, he was kinda estranged from his daughter...who had remained in Russia while he moved to England.

Then just a month ago she comes to visit, they go to pay respects at the wife's grave, and then get sick?

The Russian guy who was familiar with the nerve agent said even if recovered, the person would remain in life support yet she is recovering well?

I can't say if she knowingly or unknowingly had a part in it, but I find the timing suspicious. Because everything in the news is out of some weird spy novel.
Or slapstick comedy
Or horror film.

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I think the daughter had something to do with poison attack in England (Original post)	nadine_mn	Mar 2018	OP
That is interesting...	FirstLight	Mar 2018	#1
Pure speculation without any evidence or facts.	democratisphere	Mar 2018	#2
So I'm not allowed to say..huh that seems hinky?	nadine_mn	Mar 2018	#3
She has visited him before. There are photos of them eating at the same restaurant on previous	LisaL	Mar 2018	#19
Interesting and plausible	Bayard	Mar 2018	#75
interesting , i don't think it's impossible.	JI7	Mar 2018	#4
The thought crossed my mind too, when I heard she had come from Russia	flibbitygiblets	Mar 2018	#5
No. As Richard Engel reported tonight, investigators determined they were poisoned at their house.	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#6
The police officer was discharged on the 22nd.	NutmegYankee	Mar 2018	#7
Glad to hear it. nt	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#8
Perhaps he did not ingest it but was being watched...don't see how anyone poisoned with this stuff	Demsrule86	Mar 2018	#13
I don't think her arrival and the subsequent poisoning are unrelated	nadine_mn	Mar 2018	#9
She supposedly had a fiance and was planning to marry.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#21
Skripal was living openly. His was listed under his own name.	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#76
How did this supposed assassin smear it on the front door without injuring him or herself?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#28
Maybe in some sort of gel or liquid that dries out. Maybe on the outside of dress gloves.	LiberalArkie	Mar 2018	#47
Some delivery device like a syringe/dropper.	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#70
And what about inhalation? Was he/she also wearing a face mask?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#72
Maybe. But such a tiny amount needed to be applied.	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#73
Almost certainly, Russian intelligence was tracking	Eyeball_Kid	Mar 2018	#59
WTF would they need to track her for?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#68
When she's well enough someone should ask her	Achilleaze	Mar 2018	#10
She will never be well enough. This poison is fatal.	Demsrule86	Mar 2018	#12
Fatal? Fatal means deadly. She is said to be improving rapidly.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#16
I have read a great deal about this poison and on this thread I posted some of the details.	Demsrule86	Mar 2018	#22
Eventually we are all going to die.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#23
This message was self-deleted by its author	oasis	Mar 2018	#37
You can rely on whatever you want.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#38
She was poisoned also. I don't think so. It is a fatal poison. Once ingested there is no cure...it	Demsrule86	Mar 2018	#11
She is said to be improving, so she isn't going to die.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#17
The person who created this poison said there was no antidote that was effective	Demsrule86	Mar 2018	#20
Again, she is said to be recovering rapidly.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#25
Scary and sad information but, abundantly clear. Thank you.	oasis	Mar 2018	#26
If that is so abundantly clear, why is she recovering?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#27
"Recovering" only to die in the not to distant future. nt	oasis	Mar 2018	#29
And you know that how?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#32
Unfortunately, he'll also die before his time. Read post#20. nt	oasis	Mar 2018	#33
Oh give me a break.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#35
HIROSHIMA. nt	oasis	Mar 2018	#39
A lot of things are going to kill you before your time.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#40
With the possible exception of those who have "recovered".	oasis	Mar 2018	#43
Why are you so intent in this line of argument? You dont seem too expert on the topic	blake2012	Mar 2018	#49
Are you an expert on the topic?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#50
No, but I am not making adamant assertions with certainty and without proof like the other poster is	blake2012	Mar 2018	#52
You mean, baseless speculation?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#53
That too	blake2012	Mar 2018	#55
Read post# 20. Including the link provided. nt	oasis	Mar 2018	#57
Why not just link to post in question? Im not going to hunt through 70 replies	blake2012	Mar 2018	#60
Did it ever occur to you that a guy who worked on it in the eighties might not be	LisaL	Mar 2018	#61
Months and years from now I'd be happy to learn all who were	oasis	Mar 2018	#69
Yes, there is a good chance they won't live forever.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#71
"The less one is exposed to poisonous substances, the greater	oasis	Mar 2018	#74
Just reading the chemist's reasoning, I am not as convinced as you that this is as definitive	karynnj	Mar 2018	#77
And never mind it was 30 years since he worked on making these poisons.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#79
Great point! That plus the policeman has recovered	karynnj	Mar 2018	#80
Its possible	Meowmee	Mar 2018	#14
so she poisoned herself . . . that is an interesting theory	DrDan	Mar 2018	#15
unless she didn't understand the danger of the nerve agent	milestogo	Mar 2018	#24
yep - pretty unlikely - and would require a lot of trust in the KGB	DrDan	Mar 2018	#67
She wasn't estranged. She visited him regularly as far as I can tell.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#18
at one time i read..somewhere.. that it had been packed into her luggage...by...whom?	samnsara	Mar 2018	#30
When it Concerns Russia, Anything is Possible -- The Timing of Her Visit from Russia is Suspect	dlk	Mar 2018	#31
Re: the daughter. I heard she had broken up with the son	R B Garr	Mar 2018	#34
If you believe daily mail, the two were planning to marry so not broken up.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#36
Ah, I remember it was the mother who was mentioned, but forgot	R B Garr	Mar 2018	#42
"I can't say if she knowingly or unknowingly had a part in it"	Vinnie From Indy	Mar 2018	#41
Sorry that was poorly worded - I guess I meant to say I think there is a link	nadine_mn	Mar 2018	#44
Russia 'is protecting' identity of Yulia Skripal's mystery boyfriend whose mother 'is linked to Mo	FarCenter	Mar 2018	#45
Yulia Skripal: from suburban Moscow life to nerve agent mystery	FarCenter	Mar 2018	#46
My first thought when Engel said that was she was followed by the KGB	csziggy	Mar 2018	#48
That's seems more likely to me - like tracking a courier to find a wanted person	underpants	Mar 2018	#51
Tracking her? Really?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#56
Who says he was hiding?	LisaL	Mar 2018	#54
I thought he was in hiding	underpants	Mar 2018	#58
You must be confusing him with somebody else.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#62
Engel did, if I heard him right	csziggy	Mar 2018	#63
Daily mail has photos of his daughter visiting him on prior occasions.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#65
I didn't hear him say that and I watched Engel's story last night.	SunSeeker	Mar 2018	#78
I've never read anything to suggest that he was in hiding	TubbersUK	Mar 2018	#64
Yes, exactly.	LisaL	Mar 2018	#66

Response to nadine_mn (Original post)

Fri Mar 30, 2018, 11:33 PM

FirstLight (12,733 posts)

1. That is interesting...

but this too:

"Because everything in the news is out of some weird spy novel.
Or slapstick comedy
Or horror film. "

I think the daughter had something to do with poison attack in England

1. That *is* interesting...

2. Pure speculation without any evidence or facts.

3. So I'm not allowed to say..huh that seems hinky?

19. She has visited him before. There are photos of them eating at the same restaurant on previous

75. Interesting and plausible

4. interesting , i don't think it's impossible.

5. The thought crossed my mind too, when I heard she had come from Russia

6. No. As Richard Engel reported tonight, investigators determined they were poisoned at their house.

7. The police officer was discharged on the 22nd.

8. Glad to hear it. nt

13. Perhaps he did not ingest it but was being watched...don't see how anyone poisoned with this stuff

9. I don't think her arrival and the subsequent poisoning are unrelated

21. She supposedly had a fiance and was planning to marry.

76. Skripal was living openly. His was listed under his own name.

28. How did this supposed assassin smear it on the front door without injuring him or herself?

47. Maybe in some sort of gel or liquid that dries out. Maybe on the outside of dress gloves.

70. Some delivery device like a syringe/dropper.

72. And what about inhalation? Was he/she also wearing a face mask?

73. Maybe. But such a tiny amount needed to be applied.

59. Almost certainly, Russian intelligence was tracking

68. WTF would they need to track her for?

10. When she's well enough someone should ask her

12. She will never be well enough. This poison is fatal.

16. Fatal? Fatal means deadly. She is said to be improving rapidly.

22. I have read a great deal about this poison and on this thread I posted some of the details.

23. Eventually we are all going to die.

38. You can rely on whatever you want.

11. She was poisoned also. I don't think so. It is a fatal poison. Once ingested there is no cure...it

17. She is said to be improving, so she isn't going to die.

20. The person who created this poison said there was no antidote that was effective

25. Again, she is said to be recovering rapidly.

26. Scary and sad information but, abundantly clear. Thank you.

27. If that is so abundantly clear, why is she recovering?

29. "Recovering" only to die in the not to distant future. nt

32. And you know that how?

33. Unfortunately, he'll also die before his time. Read post#20. nt

35. Oh give me a break.

39. HIROSHIMA. nt

40. A lot of things are going to kill you before your time.

43. With the possible exception of those who have "recovered".

49. Why are you so intent in this line of argument? You dont seem too expert on the topic

50. Are you an expert on the topic?

52. No, but I am not making adamant assertions with certainty and without proof like the other poster is

53. You mean, baseless speculation?

55. That too

57. Read post# 20. Including the link provided. nt

60. Why not just link to post in question? Im not going to hunt through 70 replies

61. Did it ever occur to you that a guy who worked on it in the eighties might not be

69. Months and years from now I'd be happy to learn all who were

71. Yes, there is a good chance they won't live forever.

74. "The less one is exposed to poisonous substances, the greater

77. Just reading the chemist's reasoning, I am not as convinced as you that this is as definitive

79. And never mind it was 30 years since he worked on making these poisons.

80. Great point! That plus the policeman has recovered

14. Its possible

15. so she poisoned herself . . . that is an interesting theory

24. unless she didn't understand the danger of the nerve agent

67. yep - pretty unlikely - and would require a lot of trust in the KGB

18. She wasn't estranged. She visited him regularly as far as I can tell.

30. at one time i read..somewhere.. that it had been packed into her luggage...by...whom?

31. When it Concerns Russia, Anything is Possible -- The Timing of Her Visit from Russia is Suspect

34. Re: the daughter. I heard she had broken up with the son

36. If you believe daily mail, the two were planning to marry so not broken up.

42. Ah, I remember it was the mother who was mentioned, but forgot

41. "I can't say if she knowingly or unknowingly had a part in it"

44. Sorry that was poorly worded - I guess I meant to say I think there is a link

45. Russia 'is protecting' identity of Yulia Skripal's mystery boyfriend whose mother 'is linked to Mo

46. Yulia Skripal: from suburban Moscow life to nerve agent mystery

48. My first thought when Engel said that was she was followed by the KGB

51. That's seems more likely to me - like tracking a courier to find a wanted person

56. Tracking her? Really?

54. Who says he was hiding?

58. I thought he was in hiding

62. You must be confusing him with somebody else.

63. Engel did, if I heard him right

65. Daily mail has photos of his daughter visiting him on prior occasions.

78. I didn't hear him say that and I watched Engel's story last night.

64. I've never read anything to suggest that he was in hiding

66. Yes, exactly.

1. That is interesting...