"But, Jackie, don't you remember we almost lost the house."

[Baitball Blogger]

I didn't watch the reboot of Roseanne, but I did see this clip of the show. And the question I had was, did they really just state as fact that it was Trump who saved the Conner house? Really, in one sentence they established as fact that Trump's economic plans provided a job that wasn't there before? That his tax cut provided a landfall of money for the Conners to pay the mortgage?

I think this is the danger of normalizing that everyone is talking about.

[emulatorloo]

1. Was also a segment where Jackie ripped Roseanne for believing Trump would provide amazing

healthcare.

The show is not that simple, definitely not the rah rah Trump-fest that those who haven’t watched think it is. There are liberal characters, there are characters that many Trumpians would feel very uncomfortable seeing.

[CrispyQ]

2. They will lie & rewrite history, like they always do.

When Harvey hit Houston & Trump was slow to respond, I read right winger comments that Obama hadn't responded quickly to Katrina, either. WTF? I agree with Richard Painter, that the American people need to sharpen up.

on edit: I've never watched a single episode of Roseanne, so I know nothing about it. But I do know that republicans lie. And the media rarely calls them out on it.

[A HERETIC I AM]

3. If I recall correctly, they won the lottery in the old series.

What the hell happened to that money?

[Baitball Blogger]

4. They brought Dan back from the dead?

[Gidney N Cloyd]

5. Apparently a lot of the stuff from the last season was just part of a story Rosanne Conner wrote.

[MountCleaners]

30. That lottery plotline was a load of shit

I guess Roseanne was feeling guilty about being so rich when her character wasn't. It was clearly making her more uncomfortable, so she had to censor out economic struggle.

I really loathed the crappy bits that Roseanne came up with at the end.

[leftynyc]

6. I think everyone here should just

fucking watch the episode rather than opine about it because it's far more complicated than many are making it to be. If you want to not watch because Roseanne is a disgusting twit (that nazi tweet alone is reason enough), that's fine but making bold statements about a show not seen is BS.

[B2G]

7. Agree. And all of this caterwauling

is only going to drive ratings higher.

[Baitball Blogger]

9. You know what drives ratings up?

Watching the damn show. That's what.

[B2G]

10. Yep, that's my point.

All of the controversy is going to make folks tune in to see what the fuss is about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Trump has around 40% approval. There are around 260,000,000 adults in the U.S.

Roseanne has a large audience to tap.

[sdfernando]

25. I'm not going to opine about anything on this show

I am however never going to watch or do anything to enrich that woman.

[leftynyc]

46. Fair enough (n/t)

[EffieBlack]

49. +Me

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. In the next episode she "schools" us liberals

Link to tweet

[vercetti2021]

12. Good fuckety God

I know is only 10 episodes but can they not air the rest?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. I read here they made Jackie look like a loon

I read here they made Jackie look like a loon who walks around in a pussy hat and a nasty woman t shirt.

[vercetti2021]

15. I reluctantly dvr'd it

I stopped watching like 30 minutes in. I can't stomach that shit.

[Atman]

29. You stopped watching 30 minutes in?

The episodes are 22 minutes long. So you actually did watch at least the first episode, and 1/3 of the next. Did you really find it to be the Trump love-fest so many other DUers have claimed? I sure as heck didn't.

[leftynyc]

48. Me neither

And frankly, I thought they made roseanne character out to be an imbecile who believed a con man. I loved how they included Jackie mocking roseanne for the whole health care lie donnie fed them.

[vercetti2021]

55. Yeah I did

Second episode I stopped watching. I just didn't care for the humor either.

[B2G]

16. Jackie has always been over the top.

Did you ever watch the first season?

Where they supposed to completely change her original character to suit everyone's idea of what they would like it to be?

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. If she exists to be Roseanne's foil so be it.

[B2G]

20. Their relationship is similar to Dalene and Becky's.

But if you didn't watch, you wouldn't know that.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. I walk my neighbor's dog during that time slot.

[B2G]

22. Fine by me.

There just seems to be quite a lot you don't know about the actual show.

Peace out.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. I don't have to watch the show to know I probably wouldn't like it.

My friend used to own a convenience store in Daytona Beach. There was a part of it largely obscured from public view in which he sold adult magazines. One of the genres was infantalism. Seeing a fortyish year old man who weighed about two hundred pounds in diapers on the cover was enough to convince me I didn't want to see what was inside.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. I think it's up to Sara Gilbert to save the day.

[Initech]

27. I was out before but I'm definitely done here. Fuck Roseanne.

[Proud liberal 80]

36. So she is going after her black granddaughter and black mom?

Yep I am definitely not watching.

[B2G]

39. Her black grandaughter is like 5 years old.

She's referring to Darlene's 14 year old daughter with an attitude.

God, it would be so much easier to discuss this if people knew what they were even talking about.

[Proud liberal 80]

40. Yeah you go right ahead

And continue to support a trump loving Deplorable. By you watching you are normalizing Deplorables. Next thing you know we are going to have a hole bunch of ProbTrump shows on the air.

[B2G]

42. OMG.

Whatever. I also love SNL. I'm not 'normalizing' anything. I just happen to love the cast. To each his own, live and let live.

[Proud liberal 80]

43. By supporting that show

You are supporting trump

[B2G]

44. Well it looks like we have a number of Trump supporters here then. nt

[Proud liberal 80]

45. I will admit

I am being a overly irrational. But that is what Trump has done to me...I feel as if everything is political now...I don’t even watch Tim Allen’s Santa Clause movies during Christmas like I use to because I don’t like the guy’s political stance. I don’t buy Koch brand products or eat Chic-Fil-a or Paps Johns. I don’t watch the NFL. now I know how the crazy tea party felt about Obama.

[B2G]

47. That's very honest. Thank you.

Personally, I can separate those types of things out more. I'm not big into boycotts and don't let it stop me from enjoying the types of entertainment I like.

I get a little prickly when I'm accused of supporting the right when I do. It's a big world out there, and personally, I'm not gonna cut out half of it.

[spanone]

13. if they almost lost the house it was because of george bu$h and his near great fucking depression

[Grammy23]

32. That was what I was thinking.

If they didn’t lose the house (and evidently they didn’t since the new show takes place mostly in that house) Jackie’s retort could have been, “But you didn’t lose the house thanks in large part to the action taken by President Obama and a Congress that intervened to help you and millions of other ordinary people.” But of course, Roseanne would have never allowed that to be written into the script. Way too close to the truth.

[leftynyc]

50. Then why did they include

Jackie mocking Roseanne for believing donnie was going to deliver fabulous health care at a fraction of the cost?

[EL34x4]

33. Very true. And...

...many of Trump's voters blame the policies enacted by establishment Republicans just as much as they blame policies enacted by Democrats. To a lot of these people there's no difference between establishment politicians and that was a big part of Trump's appeal to the "Roseanne Class" as they are now being referred to.

You'll find very little love for GW Bush, his father, or his brother among Trump's most ardent supporters.

[Initech]

18. The Connors are a perfect example of people...

Who have been tricked by the 24/7 right wing propaganda machine into voting against their best interests. They could afford their house and a much better lifestyle if they vote for it. Instead they choose to believe the bullshit and vote for the worst people possible to represent them.

[TNLib]

19. I think the show reflects how that generation thinks. Unfortunately

I think the problem is too many people that have gone through the economic downturn think this way. My father and step mother who lost their business due to the housing bust now praise Trump for their 2 dollar an hour raise that they just got from home depot.

Both of them are retired but can't afford it so they work at home depot part time. My father had allot of money that he made as a salesman over the years then left his job to buy a very lucrative landscape and nursery business in Miami Fl. Recently I found out he has no savings or money due to the housing bust and trying to keep his business afloat. They are both well into their 70's and got royally screwed in the Bush years. Yet he voted for Bush. Now they voted Trump and praise him. It's crazy because that tax cut is probably going to cost them their medicare or SS when they need it most. But unfortunately that is the problem with that generation and always has been they are easily conned.

[Eliot Rosewater]

26. My line is if the pro trump stuff outweighs the pro patriot/sane stuff. So far it hasnt.

The gender fluid child, the AMAZING actors Laurie Metcalf and John, etc

Yes, I will watch until they cross that line

[Initech]

28. I must have a thinner line.

My line is when they start saying that the people who voted for Trump are more patriotic than those who aren't. Being a patriot is like being a super genius - if you have to constantly remind me that you are one, you aren't.

[Eliot Rosewater]

31. This would be so much easier for me if the greatest actor alive wasnt on the show

might be a tiny exaggeration but not by much.

[Initech]

34. Oh I'm a huge fan of John Goodman. Don't get me wrong.

I thought he was hilarious on Saturday Night Live as Rex Tillerson last week. That line was classic- "One minute you're the head of a $50 billion dollar corporation, the next minute, you get fired by a guy who used to sell steaks in the mail."

And The Big Lebowski is one of my all time favorite movies. I might watch just for him but I'm definitely not hanging around for the ambiance.

[Eliot Rosewater]

37. Fuck it dude, let's go bowling

[Initech]

38. Doug Benson said "The phrase "Shut the fuck up Donny" has never been more relevant than it is now!"

[Docreed2003]

51. Love it...

One of my favorite flicks...but I find myself watching it more since Trump came into office!

[JennyMominFL]

35. They owned the house

I wonder how they lost it. They paid it off and burned the mortgage a few seasons before the end of the series.

[Baitball Blogger]

41. Reviving Dan must have required taking out another mortgage.

[JI7]

52. They should have had her say Clinton killed seth rich and involved in sex trafficking

At the pizza place because those were the things she was pushing.

[Baitball Blogger]

53. Maybe she's not going to write that in because it sounds...crazy.

[Ilsa]

54. The Roseanne Barr Show will not be on my tv unless she apologizes

for the pic of her dressed up to be a female Hitler holding a cookie sheet of burnt cookies in the shape of people.

To me, that was an act of a sociopath.

[Mr. Ected]

56. I'm in real estate, and although it's true that it's a local, rather than national, industry

The lion's share of the foreclosure boom was long, long behind us by the time Trump threw his hat in the ring for 2016.

If the Conners were about to lose their home, it was due to the fuck up in Washington named George W. Bush.

If they were able to save their home and find gainful employment, it was likely during the Obama years.

Choke on it, revisionist historians aka MAGATS.

[Baitball Blogger]

57. +1000