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What will Manafort do if Trump doesn't pardon him? (Original Post) imanamerican63 Mar 2018 OP
Make license plates. Funtatlaguy Mar 2018 #1
He'll die in prison, that's what he'll do Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #2
I find it hard to believe Mueller really needs his testimony at this point. mucifer Mar 2018 #3
I think the same SHRED Mar 2018 #10
When does he expect the pardon to arrive? Generic Brad Mar 2018 #4
Go lie at a country club.....prison. Maybe the one near Lexington, KY. tonyt53 Mar 2018 #5
That's a myth at least these days: mucifer Mar 2018 #9
Actually, the place is still there and open. Yeah, I know for sure. tonyt53 Mar 2018 #15
He is safer in federal prison MaryMagdaline Mar 2018 #6
Life ? OnDoutside Mar 2018 #7
Start decorating his cell? MineralMan Mar 2018 #8
first he'll have to take a few reading classes spanone Mar 2018 #19
trump can only pardon federal crimes and the pardon is based on admission of guilt, parallel beachbum bob Mar 2018 #11
Run sarah FAILIN Mar 2018 #12
I was waiting for your answer! imanamerican63 Mar 2018 #13
Yep Meowmee Mar 2018 #21
Manafort is definitely counting on a drumpf pardon. democratisphere Mar 2018 #14
Anyway this guy can go down on state charges? nt Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #16
Well, seein as how he already knows a bit about laundering... Leghorn21 Mar 2018 #17
What'll He Do? About 300 Years, According To The Judge ChoppinBroccoli Mar 2018 #18
What'll he do if Trump DOES pardon him? Spider Jerusalem Mar 2018 #20

mucifer

(23,530 posts)
3. I find it hard to believe Mueller really needs his testimony at this point.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:28 AM
Mar 2018

He will die in prison. It might have more to do with threats from Russia. He might rather be in prison than murdered.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
4. When does he expect the pardon to arrive?
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:28 AM
Mar 2018

Seems like he's stuck in his house indefinitely. I would imagine he must be getting stir crazy and impatient.

Perhaps he's planning to ride this out until Trump's last day in office and his deus ex machina is delivered. I suspect that over the course of the next few months, Trump's guilt and involvement will become so apparent that he may leave abruptly with nary a pardon executed.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
15. Actually, the place is still there and open. Yeah, I know for sure.
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:00 PM
Mar 2018

There are several federal pens that do not show up on ANY GPS or map also. yeah. I know for sure.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
11. trump can only pardon federal crimes and the pardon is based on admission of guilt, parallel
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:51 AM
Mar 2018

investigation and prosecution is happening at the state level and trump can't do shit on that. Believe me, prison time in a federal prison is a bit better than prison time in a New York State prison. That is what Mueller should inform all his targets...

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
12. Run
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 09:57 AM
Mar 2018

He will not flip because that is a death sentence for him. Putin will give him a bolt hole at some point and that is where he will stay. Not putting him in jail sealed the deal. There will be a way for him to leave created and he will never be seen here again.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
18. What'll He Do? About 300 Years, According To The Judge
Thu Mar 29, 2018, 11:46 PM
Mar 2018

I really think the only reason he hasn't flipped yet is because he's counting on a pardon, and I think this is something he and Trump discussed a LONG time ago. But there are a couple of problems with that. First of all, even if he does get pardoned, I've got a sneaking suspicion that AG Schneiderman is hiding in the reeds right now, just waiting to pop out and hit him with some State charges that he can't be pardoned for. And second, I think when it's all said and done, Manafort may end up getting charged with Treason. If that happens, look for him to start signing like Ethel Merman on an entire case of Red Bull.

 

Spider Jerusalem

(21,786 posts)
20. What'll he do if Trump DOES pardon him?
Fri Mar 30, 2018, 12:30 AM
Mar 2018

By accepting a pardon you waive your Fifth Amendment rights relating to the issue you were pardoned for. So he'd have to talk then or be held in contempt (which can mean "imprisoned" and/or punitively fined). He really has no good options.

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