Did Trump Pay for Stormy Daniels' Abortion?

[MineralMan]

There's that troublesome mention of "paternity" in the NDA she signed. Why would such a thing be in such a document? Was there a pregnancy from that "unprotected sex" and did an abortion ensue. Did Trump pay for that procedure due to a paternity issue?

Now, if that were the case, and it could be proven, how would Trump's Christian Right supporters feel about him paying for an abortion? Now, I wouldn't be surprised if he had paid for any number of them, but if there's evidence in this particular case, it might not look so good for Trump, perhaps.

Paternity. Stormy's not supposed to talk about any paternity issues? Why is that in the NDA? Hmm....?

[madaboutharry]

1. Michael Avanetti denies that there was a paternity issue.

He mocked the agreement as a sloppy cut and paste job that included clauses that were not relevant to the relationship between Daniels and Trump.

[MineralMan]

3. Well, he might say that...

I don't know. It's an odd inclusion in an NDA about a brief affair, though, I'd think. Even as boilerplate.

[EffieBlack]

10. Its not odd if the lawyer sucks.

[jberryhill]

25. Which one?

In all likelihood, the form originated with Davidson, since that's his line of work.

The McDougal complaint is illuminating relative to Davidson's practice, although the allegations to the effect that Davidson colluded with Cohen are factually thin:

https://static01.nyt.com/files/2018/us/mcdougal-complaint-exhibits.pdf

[Hermit-The-Prog]

36. you're confusing me

"It's not odd if the lawyer sucks."

Wait, I thought the lawyer paid and the client sucks. Is Stormy a lawyer, too?



Ok, it was funny to me. I'll just go sit in the corner now.

[Kirk Lover]

22. It's not odd when you are using these agreements right and left. He's been using this

for years and paternity "protection" will be in the NDA regardless.

[tblue37]

23. It is probably a standard NDA used with all of the women Trump went after. nt

[jberryhill]

26. So your conjecture is that Daniels lawyer is lying

Is that it?

[MineralMan]

27. I would never say that. Lawyers always tell the truth.

Everyone knows that.

[jberryhill]

32. Do you think that is clever?

Daniels' authorized spokesperson has denied there was a pregnancy. Nonetheless, you fall back to sarcasm about lawyers to suggest that he's lying, and raise suspicions about what medical procedures she may or may not have had.

Why is anyone's guess. Abortion is a legal and confidential medical procedure, and on the other side of the political fence nobody gives two hoots about whatever sexual adventures Trump engaged in.

To what end?

[hlthe2b]

13. This... He seemed very clear that that language had no bearing on anything

[TheBlackAdder]

37. Merriam-Webster - Paternity: relating to the time when a father's child is born

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https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/paternity

Not every family begins in the traditional way, and there are times when we need to figure out who a child’s father is. Paternity is the legal establishment of the identity of a child's father -- often through the use of DNA testing -- which may be a factor in cases involving child support, custody, adoption, and inheritance. Establishing paternity can help a mother enforce child support orders or, in some cases, reunite estranged fathers with their children. The Paternity sub-section of FindLaw's Family Law Center can provide you with the facts and resources regarding how paternity is established and the subsequent legal effects.

http://family.findlaw.com/paternity.html


Is it a child when it is still subject to abortion?

DNA tests can, at the earliest, be taken at 8 weeks, but normally the 9th week or after. Paternity could not be affirmed before that.

So, is Stormy's lawyer just playing with legal semantics?

.

[Archae]

2. Franklin Graham already has an excuse for Trump.

"He no longer is a sinner since becoming President."

Yup, he said that.

[MineralMan]

5. Franklin Graham. Ugh!

[forgotmylogin]

24. The evangelicals will suddenly become "selectively" pro-choice. (n/t)

[nature-lover]

35. I don't remember that in the scriptures. Maybe he can cite it for us.

[dameatball]

4. I was thinking along similar lines, but not necessarily restrictive to Stormy

He has desperately cluing to all these NDA's for decades. Who knows what might turn up if someone came forward with proof he had paid for an abortion. There goes the evangelical vote.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

6. A porn star isn't going to get unexpectedly pregnant. I think the NDA she signed

was a form loaded with boilerplate drafted to cover all imaginable circumstances, including pregnancies, to be used with any number of women. Cohen probably carried in his briefcase a pre-printed bundle of them with blanks for the names and payoff amounts, which could be filled in as needed.

[MineralMan]

11. Still, doesn't it make for an interesting conjecture?

That's what I'm thinking. Conjecture is about all there is, really, to work with. Perhaps the idea is sufficient.

[gratuitous]

18. I say just go with it

Let Trump deny it, if he can.

[MineralMan]

21. Google's already gone with it.

[ollie10]

30. conjecture....gossip....what is the difference?

[d_r]

12. key word

"unexpectedly"

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

19. Kinda doubt that Stormy would want to get pregnant by Trump.

Or by anybody, for that matter. It would have put a damper on her porn business.

[poboy2]

14. I'm inclined to think this. Form NDA. He must have them in tablet carbonless duplicate form. -nt

[d_r]

8. everything

keeps making a point out of it being unprotected sex. 130,000 is too much for sex, not enough for paternity, so all signs say yes.

[poboy2]

9. If true, that would be a 'fat man' moment (and yes I meant to do that) -nt

[Orangepeel]

15. Does Trump pay for anything?

[ismnotwasm]

16. Doubt it

You know, the Trimpies say the most vile shit to her on Twitter. She handles it, but the number of dudes who claim that—eh let’s just call it—they are not attracted—-to her, and then denounce her morals useing words the properly moralistic wouldn’t use, and not seeing the irony in that is a sight to see.

[Arkansas Granny]

17. I think it's highly unlikely that a porn star would have an unplanned pregnancy.

I'd be more willing to believe that she has pictures to prove the old adage about the size of a man's hands.

[Grammy23]

20. I think the unprotected sex comments are being mentioned

Because Stormy has proof of that. The “blue dress” moment when Ms Daniels removes all doubt about whether tRump knew her in the acquaintance sense OR the Biblical sense.

I think things for tRump are about to get about as real as they get when all of this stuff ends up in court. As the song says...🎼 Nowhere to run. Nowhere to hide, eh, tRumpolini.

[poboy2]

29. There is still hope for the skid mark theory some have said.

Many people are talking about T's briefs, or a diaper with encrusted DNA skid marks.

Its out there.

[Grammy23]

33. Ewwwww.....

Either way, the DNA is going to get him. 😂😂😂

[spanone]

28. another mulligan.

[rzemanfl]

31. Her lawyer mocked that clause saying there were no "paternity issues." n/t

[mainstreetonce]

34. Speculation was that language was there

because he has used the same contract with other women,so there could be someone else stepping up with proof of an abortion.

[lame54]

38. Trump's calls it a mulligan