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Egnever

(21,506 posts)
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:16 AM Mar 2018

No wonder facebook's stock tanked today.

But two former FTC officials said that Facebook’s allowing the psychologist to take so much data about a person’s friends could constitute a violation of a 2011 consent decree with the agency.

Under that agreement, Facebook is required to notify and get explicit permissions from users before data about them is shared beyond the privacy settings that they have established. The fines for breaking the consent decree are $40,000 per violation, which could add up to billions of dollars if the estimated 50 million users whose data was taken by Cambridge were taken into account. The FTC declined to comment
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/facebooks-rules-for-accessing-user-data-lured-more-than-just-cambridge-analytica/2018/03/19/31f6979c-658e-43d6-a71f-afdd8bf1308b_story.html?utm_term=.52f5567945bf

If my math is right that could be a fine of 2 trillion dollars!

Holy cow Batman!

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No wonder facebook's stock tanked today. (Original Post) Egnever Mar 2018 OP
The FTC should make FaceBook pay the 40K to each person who data was stolen. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #1
How can you find out if your data was stolen? StarryNite Mar 2018 #2
no idea TeamPooka Mar 2018 #3
I read you participated in some kind of survey SonofDonald Mar 2018 #4
It was on mturk janterry Mar 2018 #7
Here is what was said in the survey janterry Mar 2018 #8
All to find out they would be Tyrion Lannister in Game of Thrones. TeamPooka Mar 2018 #9
"thisisyourdigitallife" app according the Washington Post PA Democrat Mar 2018 #12
I can hardly wrap my head around a fine that large Egnever Mar 2018 #5
each instance eShirl Mar 2018 #6
But they are the ones who got duped into helping get Trump elected Generic Brad Mar 2018 #18
They've endangered my children and grandchildren. Hortensis Mar 2018 #20
Trump Owns the FTC woundedkarma Mar 2018 #10
fakebook is done! democratisphere Mar 2018 #11
Good! Farcebook deserves the flush! Raster Mar 2018 #13
Yeah. Twelve whole dollars off a $180 stock A HERETIC I AM Mar 2018 #14
fakebook's product is tainted and the management is corrupt. democratisphere Mar 2018 #15
As long as it remains popular enough A HERETIC I AM Mar 2018 #16
The data wasn't stolen from facebook. FarCenter Mar 2018 #17
do we get any of that money? Javaman Mar 2018 #19
Stick a fork in it Blue Owl Mar 2018 #21
Delete Facebook now! Johnny2X2X Mar 2018 #22

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
4. I read you participated in some kind of survey
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 03:56 AM
Mar 2018

And that was it, they had you and all your friends.

I read the name of the survey elsewhere but can't recall its title now, it will all come out soon I'd think.

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
7. It was on mturk
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 05:01 AM
Mar 2018

I don't remember how they named the survey - but one of the accounts was Global Science Research (requesters can name their account what they want). He had several accounts (actually, one is still active - though nothing has been posted by them in eons).

You had to download an app. Many people refused to do it (it violates mturk TOS) and reported it to Amazon
but it was a quick survey and there are thousands of workers on mturk.
So, many others did the survey

edited to add, I just saw the name on turkopticon:
Study on Interests & Well-Being

 

janterry

(4,429 posts)
8. Here is what was said in the survey
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 05:04 AM
Mar 2018

In part two, we will ask you to give us permission to download some data from your Facebook. We will download (a) some of your demographic data, (b) your likes, (c) your friend’s list, (d) whether each of your friends knows one another, and (e) the likes of your friends and their demographics.

 

Egnever

(21,506 posts)
5. I can hardly wrap my head around a fine that large
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 04:11 AM
Mar 2018

Obviously they will never be fined that much right? That would be an insane judgement though....

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
18. But they are the ones who got duped into helping get Trump elected
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:14 AM
Mar 2018

The way I see it, they owe me at least $40,000.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
20. They've endangered my children and grandchildren.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:25 AM
Mar 2018

America owes them a proper return on their investment -- FB bankrupted and closed down.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
10. Trump Owns the FTC
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 05:33 AM
Mar 2018

How likely is it that he'll ever let this go past a slap on the wrist when the whole thing is part of why he's president?

Getting rid of the POS aside, our only hope would be he was too stupid to understand that this was part of why he's president. And maybe Zuckerberg will piss him off .. and Trump will get vengeful. LOL

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
17. The data wasn't stolen from facebook.
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:09 AM
Mar 2018

The professor wrote an app, facebook users ran the app and gave away their own data and their friend's data.

It was all compliant with the privacy policy in place at the time (2015, IIRC), and was all kosher until the professor gave the data to Cambridge Analytica. That action presumably was not compliant with the agreement between the professor and Facebook, but it might have just been one of these "click through" agreements which are probably not enforceable.

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