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Master political strategist (sic) Steve Kornacki said a damning report from Mueller will help Trump (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 OP
Why do 30% of Americans snowybirdie Mar 2018 #1
His base might be a tad bit higher than that, maybe not. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #3
Why they hold us hostage is because they are big enough to hold the Republican karynnj Mar 2018 #8
Good analysis! kentuck Mar 2018 #16
Trump's base includes those wealthy assholes with 75% of the money. TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #15
He is right. BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #2
He implied there are enough of them to swing the mid terms. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #5
I wouldn't put it past them. Never assume and never rest! BigmanPigman Mar 2018 #9
Trump rallies his base every day, with his tweets and his stupid rallies Mr. Ected Mar 2018 #4
Kornacki should stick to his annoying, manic election reports. The Velveteen Ocelot Mar 2018 #6
Yes, not impressed. poboy2 Mar 2018 #21
Ummmmm it's pretty obvious that those die hard deplorables are never going Kirk Lover Mar 2018 #7
"God Emperor" himself went to PA to rally the deplorables. John Fante Mar 2018 #10
Who cares about 45's fucking 30% base? ananda Mar 2018 #11
If Mueller's report is truly damning Trump's approval will drop to the high 20s/low 30s. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #13
The deplorables drank very strong KoolAid Thunderbeast Mar 2018 #20
He also said that Dem opposition to Trump is all about tribalism. Can't stand the guy. octoberlib Mar 2018 #12
He's 100% correct. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #14
The deplorables are all about the tribe. You have to be 70% deplorable to be okay with poboy2 Mar 2018 #22
Let us test this statement. I would really like a damning report from Mueller. Shrike47 Mar 2018 #17
He's comparing Donnie Short Fingers treason, maxrandb Mar 2018 #18
Agreed and echo your outrage. -nt poboy2 Mar 2018 #24
Kornaki is a dumb fuck repuke I wouldnt expect anything less onecaliberal Mar 2018 #19
Rallying your base is great but if you lose the center of the country you are done. nt Quixote1818 Mar 2018 #23
fuck his base....and kornacki spanone Mar 2018 #25
The same Steve Kornacki who nearly ate his pen and a sheet of paper during the PA 18 election? PubliusEnigma Mar 2018 #26
Timing will be critical in this OldHippieChick Mar 2018 #27
By Kornacki's logic it would be better for Democrats if Mueller exonerates Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2018 #29
I would agree if that is the logical OldHippieChick Mar 2018 #31
Trump is hoping to win re-election with his base kennetha Mar 2018 #28
Don't worry, he'll do a triple expresso, roll up his sleeves and and speed talk his way through ... marble falls Mar 2018 #30
They aren't rallied already? Lol Takket Mar 2018 #32
Master what? n/t malaise Mar 2018 #33
Truth is, in order to save America's soul, we have to be as passionately behind Mueller as Baitball Blogger Mar 2018 #34

karynnj

(59,501 posts)
8. Why they hold us hostage is because they are big enough to hold the Republican
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:09 PM
Mar 2018

party hostage and the Republican party holds the power in both houses of Congress. Though only 30 percent or slightly more of the whole population, that translates to something like 60% plus of the Republican party. This means that all Republicans now face a Hobson's choice -- to possibly lose a primary if they stand up to Trump or to lose the general election if they don't.

So, far the first possibility weighs most heavilly on them - so they bet on Trump's popularity improving. If Trump becomes less popular or stays as unpopular as he is, we may see more jumping ship hoping to save their own job. Until either many of them do that OR they don't and we win very big in 2018, the country is held hostage by these people.

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
9. I wouldn't put it past them. Never assume and never rest!
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:10 PM
Mar 2018

As soon as you relax and think it is "in the bag" you're pretty much screwed. We will have to fight (and fight dirty if we have to) and campaign like mad right up until the polls close on midterm night.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
4. Trump rallies his base every day, with his tweets and his stupid rallies
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:01 PM
Mar 2018

They certainly don't need this to consolidate. Their numbers are finite, and not growing.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
21. Yes, not impressed.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:57 PM
Mar 2018

Mueller clears Agent O = good for the traitors
Mueller condemns Agent O = good for the traitors

Okay. Heads they win, tails we lose?

 

Kirk Lover

(3,608 posts)
7. Ummmmm it's pretty obvious that those die hard deplorables are never going
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:02 PM
Mar 2018

to abandon. And I say WHO GIVES A FUCK....it's the other 70% that's gonna run shit.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
13. If Mueller's report is truly damning Trump's approval will drop to the high 20s/low 30s.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:21 PM
Mar 2018

It's already been that low, in the aftermath of Charlottesville, after the Comey firing, and after the Manafort and Gates indictments.

Thunderbeast

(3,405 posts)
20. The deplorables drank very strong KoolAid
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:56 PM
Mar 2018

Their politics have never been burnished by critical thinking. Facts and evidence don't matter. If they are willing to believe that Obama is Kenyan, and Michelle is transgender, nothing presented by the Justice Department will make a dent.

These people operate from the limbic system. Their cerebral cortex stopped functioning when a negro got elected.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
12. He also said that Dem opposition to Trump is all about tribalism. Can't stand the guy.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:20 PM
Mar 2018

He was both sides are the same-ing all through his appearance.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. He's 100% correct.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:23 PM
Mar 2018

Our tribe believes in pluralism, the sanctity of the ballot, due process, majority rule/minority rights, and the rule of law.

 

poboy2

(2,078 posts)
22. The deplorables are all about the tribe. You have to be 70% deplorable to be okay with
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:00 PM
Mar 2018

what is going on. This guy's bias is showing, imo.

Shrike47

(6,913 posts)
17. Let us test this statement. I would really like a damning report from Mueller.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:33 PM
Mar 2018

His base already assumes there’s a damning report; they wallow in paranoia on the best of days. Let’s give them something to point at.

maxrandb

(15,316 posts)
18. He's comparing Donnie Short Fingers treason,
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 06:39 PM
Mar 2018

criminality and corruption to Bill Clinton getting a blowjob.

This is a perfect example of how they normalize this shit.

They pulled this bullshit during the 2016 campaign. Most obvious was the time I heard them talking about Iraq policy.

They talked about Clinton's plan to strengthen cooperation with allies, build an international coalition and streamline the training of Iraqi security forces. Then they talked about Donnie Shit for Brains plan to "steal their fucking oil".

They pretended that they were both plans that deserved "serious" contemplation... NOT one plan that was viable, and another that was a fucking war crime.

Fuck their normalizing shit!!!

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
27. Timing will be critical in this
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:22 PM
Mar 2018

as it is in so many things. Kornacki's point was that if the report comes from Mueller and it is damaging to Cheeto and it comes anywhere near the midterms, that could energize his base to keep from electing Dems so he does not get impeached. Right now they are not energized, A bad report w/ Cheeto screaming about the unfairness could get them off their butts for midterms.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
29. By Kornacki's logic it would be better for Democrats if Mueller exonerates Trump.
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 10:05 PM
Mar 2018

That doesn't even pass the laugh test.

OldHippieChick

(2,434 posts)
31. I would agree if that is the logical
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:21 AM
Mar 2018

conclusion of his point, but I don't think that's what he meant. If Mueller makes no decision regarding Cheeto before the midterms, Cheeto will just be screaming what he's been screaming all along. If Mueller makes a decision to recommend impeachment early this summer, that may have little to no affect on his minions. If, however, Mueller recommends impeachment in Sept or Oct, that could very well incentivize his base and get them to he polls.

kennetha

(3,666 posts)
28. Trump is hoping to win re-election with his base
Mon Mar 19, 2018, 07:29 PM
Mar 2018

He KNOWS and the Republican party KNOWS that they cannot possibly convince a majority of Americans to vote their side of things, not while they are the party of Trump. But they also now that the anti-majoritarian features of our electoral system can keep them in power even without majority support. 50% of the Senate can be elected by the votes of just 8% of the electorate. Under the old Pennsylvania congressional map, the Democrats beat the Republicans by over 100K votes state-wide, but took only 5 out of the 18 House Seats. Of course, the new map will shift the balance back to the Dems. But repeat the Pennsylvania gerrymander nation wide in state after state. Some calculate the Republicans have a built in advantage of 7.5% in the House. Finally, it is possible .. though not likely .. for a party to win the Presidency with only 23% of the popular vote in a two party race. That's not going to happen. But with enough voter suppression in the right places, a well-distrusted 40% of the vote is plenty to win the re-election by dint of winning the EC but losing the popular vote. this time around, Trump and his evil minions and masters will pour every thing they can into winning the EC without even the pretense of seeing a broad popular mandate.

marble falls

(57,063 posts)
30. Don't worry, he'll do a triple expresso, roll up his sleeves and and speed talk his way through ...
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 09:59 AM
Mar 2018

the graphics illustrating it.

I'll be home yelling back at him though the big screen.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
34. Truth is, in order to save America's soul, we have to be as passionately behind Mueller as
Tue Mar 20, 2018, 10:24 AM
Mar 2018

Trump's base is in following a course that is indefensible.

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