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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:35 AM Jan 2012

Cantor can’t handle the truth about Reagan

Cantor can’t handle the truth about Reagan

By Steve Benen

CBS’s “60 Minutes” ran a good profile on House Majority Leader Eric Cantor (R-Va.) last night, but there was one portion of the interview that was especially important.



In this video, it starts at about the 10:19 mark. For those who can’t watch clips online, Cantor told Lesley Stahl, “Nobody gets everything they want.” Asked if that means he’s ready to compromise with Democrats, the oft-confused Majority Leader replied that he’s “ready to cooperate.” Stahl, of course, noticed word choice, and pressed Cantor on the difference between cooperation and compromise.

It led to this exchange:

Stahl: But you know, your idol, as I’ve read anyway, was Ronald Reagan. And he compromised.

Cantor: He never compromised his principles.

Stahl: Well, he raised taxes and it was one of his principles not to raise taxes.

Cantor: Well, he — he also cut taxes.

Stahl: But he did compromise —

Cantor: Well I —

At that point, Cantor’s press secretary, off camera, interrupted the interview, yelling that Stahl was lying when she said Reagan raised taxes. As Stahl told “60 Minutes” viewers, “There seemed to be some difficulty accepting the fact that even though Ronald Reagan cut taxes, he also pushed through several tax increases, including one in 1982 during a recession.”

Let’s call “some difficulty” a dramatic understatement.

Unfortunately for Cantor and his press secretary, reality is stubborn. The facts are indisputable: in Ronald Reagan’s first term, he signed off on a series of tax increases — even when unemployment was nearing 11% — and proceeded to raise taxes seven out of the eight years he was in office. The truth is, “no peacetime president has raised taxes so much on so many people” as Reagan.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/political-animal/2012_01/cantor_cant_handle_the_truth_a034458.php#


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Cantor can’t handle the truth about Reagan (Original Post) ProSense Jan 2012 OP
Cantor has the IQ of an under-developed parsnip. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #1
! blue neen Jan 2012 #11
ah yes oldhippydude Jan 2012 #21
DUZY!!! n/t Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #26
Great comparison...LOL! Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #25
No offense intended toward parsnips. Fully grown ones are excellent. HopeHoops Jan 2012 #30
In The Parallel Universe KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #2
He's already doing that to Boner...has been for a long time. Watch his body language. Frustratedlady Jan 2012 #6
They're All Opportunists... KharmaTrain Jan 2012 #13
You mean "Cut & Run Ronnie"? bvar22 Jan 2012 #31
Delusional assholes and the people that work for them. . . . . . .n/t annabanana Jan 2012 #3
K + R deacon Jan 2012 #4
Reagan is as much a figurehead now as when he was installed Ron Green Jan 2012 #5
There it is in a nutshell. The differences between compromise and cooperation. That is what a southernyankeebelle Jan 2012 #7
Creepiest republican ever tularetom Jan 2012 #8
Yep -- body language says it all. Lying POS. Ship of Fools Jan 2012 #9
the funny thing is (because I remember it) tibbiit Jan 2012 #10
Yep. That was when they started to lose control of their party to the neocons. Ikonoklast Jan 2012 #17
Reagan's right wing critics mostly sufrommich Jan 2012 #19
Another Republicon caught out in a bald faced LIE SpiralHawk Jan 2012 #12
Yes ProSense Jan 2012 #14
Would make a good commercial, they are so caught up in revisionist politics... Historic NY Jan 2012 #15
Their entire party is dependent on the "Reagan Myth" Motown_Johnny Jan 2012 #16
Sometimes I say I'm an "Eisenhower Socialist"... JHB Jan 2012 #28
He is pathetic... Spazito Jan 2012 #18
if the main stream media is pinning these asshats down oldhippydude Jan 2012 #20
That 60 minutes episode was on the breakroom TV at work. Seemed like GOP electioneering to me. Populist_Prole Jan 2012 #22
Gotta love his handler Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author Surya Gayatri Jan 2012 #24
The truth is that Reagan got the top marginal tax rate on high incomes slashed... JHB Jan 2012 #27
Post removed Post removed Jan 2012 #29
Is this what you consider "class"? n/t ProSense Jan 2012 #32
 

HopeHoops

(47,675 posts)
30. No offense intended toward parsnips. Fully grown ones are excellent.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 09:47 AM
Jan 2012

They still aren't all that bright, but they taste good.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
2. In The Parallel Universe
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:47 AM
Jan 2012

Raygun never did anything he really did. He's a myth that did every goofy thing the wingnuts hold near and dear (even though he didn't). They live in their bubbleworld where 3 decades of spin, talking points and pandering have codified a false reality that goons like Kantor and others prey upon. They know they can get away with revising history to suit their needs and to invoke "Raygun" as a religious icon to sanctify whatever bullshit they're trying to peddle. And it works. If the rushpublican hold the house, watch him try to ratfuck Boner.

Frustratedlady

(16,254 posts)
6. He's already doing that to Boner...has been for a long time. Watch his body language.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:54 AM
Jan 2012

One thing Cantor hasn't learned is to keep evil out of his eyes. Watch him closely. The eyes are a pathway to the soul.

You can also tell when he is lying. He kind of slurs, as though he his forcing it out, taking it back, forcing it out again until he finally says it. He is transparent in his body language, even though he doesn't know it.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
13. They're All Opportunists...
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:29 PM
Jan 2012

I see emptiness in Kantor's eyes...the same thousand mile stare I see in most rushpublicans. No soul whatsoever and there to do the bidding of whatever corporate master is paying the freight. The fact he can string a sentence together that doesn't sound like something lifted off the Rushbo show or has that "smooth southern drawl" as if that is some kind of soothing nature doesn't belie how this goon is trying to climb to the top and doesn't matter how he does it. The game between him and Boner is to see who can "control" the teabaggers...both think they can by screwing the other. In the end they'll both take the fall.

Cheers...

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
31. You mean "Cut & Run Ronnie"?
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jan 2012

When the Marine Barracks in Beirut was bombed in 1983, killing 243 American soldiers,
"Cut & Run Ronnie" pulled ALL of our troops out.

Thats one of the few things for which I respect Reagan.
He had enough sense not to waste American Lives & Money in countries where we are NOT wanted.

I wish our current president would emulate Reagan in this respect,
instead of just embracing Reagan's Economic Policies.




You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses.
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Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
5. Reagan is as much a figurehead now as when he was installed
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:53 AM
Jan 2012

in the White House. His mythology serves the revisionist history and lies of these assholes who live and rule in fear.

Fuck them all.

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
7. There it is in a nutshell. The differences between compromise and cooperation. That is what a
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 11:55 AM
Jan 2012

republican is. Thank you Ms Stahl. This clip of republicans not wanting to comprise should be played over and over again. They need to see the clips of their hero raising Taxes. Reagan was a compromising person. That was his gift.

tibbiit

(1,601 posts)
10. the funny thing is (because I remember it)
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:14 PM
Jan 2012

back in Reagan days the far right wingers... in other words today's re-pukes, hated Reagan's fudging guts... screamed, cried and gnashed their teeth over how he sold them out and didn't deliver on his conservative promises. They did in fact vote for him anyway but!!!! the criticism was very deep and wide on the right. It was the more centrist and conservative dems and independents who really liked him. (history repeats opposite lol)
tib

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
17. Yep. That was when they started to lose control of their party to the neocons.
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:40 PM
Jan 2012

Been trying to get back under it ever since that slide started.

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
19. Reagan's right wing critics mostly
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:58 PM
Jan 2012

complained that his foriegn policy wasn't "anti- communist" enough.Translation: he wasn't killing brown people in Central America fast enough.

 

SpiralHawk

(32,944 posts)
12. Another Republicon caught out in a bald faced LIE
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:18 PM
Jan 2012

Republicons just lie all the freaking time to Americans

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
14. Yes
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:44 PM
Jan 2012

"Republicons just lie all the freaking time to Americans"

...they do. And remember, the year ended with the media promoting the false claim that Democrats lied when they said Republicans voted to end Medicare.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
15. Would make a good commercial, they are so caught up in revisionist politics...
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 12:54 PM
Jan 2012

they haven't got a clue about reality.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
16. Their entire party is dependent on the "Reagan Myth"
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jan 2012

and once it is revealed for the lie that it is the party doesn't have a leg to stand on.


Look at the recent (R) presidents:

The Bush name is ruined for generations. Nobody will ever run as a Bush Republican.

Ford pardoned Nixon who had to resign in disgrace. Both are tarnished by this forever.

Eisenhower kept the top tax rate above 90%, spent huge amounts of taxpayer money on infrastructure, expanded Social Security and spoke out against the military industrial complex. By today's standards he is more of a Democrat than many Democrats who now hold office.


If you go back any further you need to start talking about Hoover and the Depression, and even the Republicans don't want to go there.


The only President that conservatives can point to is Reagan, and the lie they have created around him. Once we reveal his failed economic policies for what they are we can reveal the Republican party for what it is, a dead weight on the back of the American People.

This is one reason I was so hopeful when Newt was doing well in his primary bid. We could have beat Newt by running against Reagan and his failed economic policies.

JHB

(37,158 posts)
28. Sometimes I say I'm an "Eisenhower Socialist"...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 08:21 AM
Jan 2012

...just to remind people how far they've dragged the "center" to the right.

By the standard of today's Republicans, we were practically communist during the Cold War. So what were the Soviets?

Spazito

(50,280 posts)
18. He is pathetic...
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 01:47 PM
Jan 2012

gotta love this:

"At that point, Cantor’s press secretary, off camera, interrupted the interview, yelling that Stahl was lying when she said Reagan raised taxes. As Stahl told “60 Minutes” viewers, “There seemed to be some difficulty accepting the fact that even though Ronald Reagan cut taxes, he also pushed through several tax increases, including one in 1982 during a recession.”"

The pathetic little weasel needed to be protected from the truth by his press secretary.

oldhippydude

(2,514 posts)
20. if the main stream media is pinning these asshats down
Mon Jan 2, 2012, 03:53 PM
Jan 2012

thats the best news heading into 2012.. for too long the press have given these clowns a free pass, without disputing their talking points..if true they will only appear on fokkks.. cantor is a dishonest weasle anyway.. i sure wouldent buy a used car from..

Populist_Prole

(5,364 posts)
22. That 60 minutes episode was on the breakroom TV at work. Seemed like GOP electioneering to me.
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 01:30 AM
Jan 2012

I did my best to create disturbances there by talking loudly to others in the room, and getting in the way of the TV by appearing to need to do, or look for, this and that. I didn't hear anybody cheering him, but heard no jeers either.

 

Surya Gayatri

(15,445 posts)
23. Gotta love his handler
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 07:53 AM
Jan 2012

charging in to save the idiot
from having to reply to the
interviewer. Christ, these
people are pathetic. SG

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JHB

(37,158 posts)
27. The truth is that Reagan got the top marginal tax rate on high incomes slashed...
Tue Jan 3, 2012, 08:17 AM
Jan 2012

...from 70% to 50%, then to 28%. That's all Cantor, his backers, and his fellow Fantasy Ron Online players care about.

When the true believers of this personality cult ask themselves WWRD (what would Reagan do?), the answer MUST be "cut taxes, no compromise, and show'em who's boss". Just like Jesus.

Everything else is just "lies by the liberal media".

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