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Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:25 AM

Attention Military Commanders all over this Country!!!!

Your troops are NOT props to be used by Donnie Shit-for-Brains.

http://news2read.com/us/1800528/trump-proposes-new-space-force

I know that Donnie Short Fingers, with the help of the Russians, was somehow elected as our CinC. I know how hard that is to deal with at times, but whoever commands those Marines in San Diego failed spectacularly during President Shitgibbon's visit.

I watched in horror as our current “temporary” occupant of the White House attacked his former political opponents and denigrated our free press in front of “captive” military troops. Equally horrifying was hearing some of those troops cheer, or laugh off those attacks. This is NOT normal, nor should it be accepted.

During my time in the Navy, I served under Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II and Obama. Fortunately, I retired before the country completely lost its fucking mind.

I watched several of those diverse Presidents give speeches at military bases. On a couple of occasions, I was even fortunate enough to attend a speech by the CinC. NOT ONE TIME did I hear a partisan attack, or a denigration of the Free Press from any of those Presidents when they appeared in front of the troops.

You have a duty and a responsibility to ensure that doesn’t happen with this President.

You probably didn’t have to do that with former Presidents. The chances of President Obama attacking Mitt Romney, or President Bush attacking Al Gore in front of a “captive military audience”, were about as likely as a snowball surviving in hell.

In the case of Donnie "Two-Scoops", you are dealing with a person with all the decorum, couth, restraint, understanding of our Democratic Republic and dignity of a petulant toddler.

You must work with the current President’s advance team to make sure they know that partisan attacks are for campaign rallies, NOT captive military audiences. You must make it clear to the White House that your troops, who you have ultimate responsibility for and authority to protect, will NOT be used as partisan political props.

Failure to do so is a breach of the oath you swore to uphold.

I served, and you serve…the United States of America. We don’t serve one man. We swear an oath to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, and to obey the orders of the President of the United States. Our military has kept faith with that oath, no matter if an individual Soldier, Sailor, Airman or Marine, agrees, or disagrees with the policies and politics of the President that temporarily occupies the office of CinC. This standard has served us well for over 250 years, and is, in large part, why we are one of the few countries that enjoys a smooth, non-violent transfer of power from one administration to the next.

The Commander in San Diego failed miserably yesterday. I’m sure when the next Democratic CinC gets the Flag Promotion list, they’ll look closely to determine those officers that kept their oath…and those that DIDN’T!

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Reply Attention Military Commanders all over this Country!!!! (Original post)
maxrandb Mar 2018 OP
duforsure Mar 2018 #1
pangaia Mar 2018 #4
Perseus Mar 2018 #2
maxrandb Mar 2018 #8
Stonepounder Mar 2018 #3
magicarpet Mar 2018 #5
workinclasszero Mar 2018 #6
spike jones Mar 2018 #7
maxrandb Mar 2018 #9
maxrandb Mar 2018 #10
Cha Mar 2018 #11
maxrandb Mar 2018 #12
Cha Mar 2018 #13

Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 11:50 AM

1. Trump's working

To get the military to be used against the American people. His types always do.

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Response to duforsure (Reply #1)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:34 PM

4. You are, unfortunately, right...

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 12:59 PM

2. Do you have the correct link to the article?

Thank you

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Response to Perseus (Reply #2)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:24 PM

8. Link works for me

Other links are available, but this one seemed to highlight the partisan nature of Shitgibbon's speech, so I chose that one

Here's a good Raw Story link with the response from retired Admiral Kirby

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/03/abhorrent-retired-admiral-slams-marine-corps-troops-applauding-trumps-attacks-free-press/

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:17 PM

3. Excellent rant!

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:37 PM

5. This military man is so correct to say this.

The crime syndicate who is tRdump is looking to enlist more thugs to be at his beck and call when it become skull cracking and death squad time.

Once he anoints himself Supreme Fascist Dictator for life - he will need goons to keep the masses under his firm control with the threat that your head will be busted if you speak disparagingly against Dear Leader.

TRdump is lining up and exciting his goon squad henchmen at each political rally so down the road if he needs a show of force his goon squad is ready, willing, and able to act out violently on his behalf if need be. tRdump wants to keep them lined up, on edge, and ready to pounce once he snaps his fingers.

What a vile individual and a very dangerous leader this mad man is. How did we get here to this horrific point ?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:38 PM

6. This is one of Putin's most wanted goals

To corrupt and weaken the US military from within with his puppet Trump.

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:21 PM

7. The military oath

"I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God."

It is clear that one can not defend the Constitution, and obey this President, apparently some of the military people have made the wrong choice.

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Response to spike jones (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:27 PM

9. No

We swear to obey the orders of the President of the United States. There are certain stipulations about what constitutes "Lawful Orders", etc.

The military didn't make the "wrong choice"...a minority of American voters, who made up a majority in the Electoral College ARE THE ONE'S THAT MADE A MISTAKE!

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Response to spike jones (Reply #7)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 02:31 PM

10. BTW - Officers oath is different from Enlisted. We swear no obedience to the President

Oath for Commissioned Officers

I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter. So help me God

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Thu Mar 15, 2018, 09:52 AM

11. It's freaking bizarre! they should be ashamed.

the mole in wh is a sociopath.. so he's useless.

Thank Goodness an Admiral spoke out against it..



Mahalo, maxrand!

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Response to Cha (Reply #11)

Thu Mar 15, 2018, 12:47 PM

12. Yes, Retired Admiral Kirby is one of the "good guys"

What pisses me off so much is that NO OTHER PRESIDENT IN OUR HISTORY would have imagined in their wildest dreams that delivering partisan attacks in from of a captive military audience was OK.

Not even members of Congress would stoop so low.

Senator Ted Kennedy visited my ship once. I had lunch with him and several of my Shipmates on the Mess Decks.

He asked about our families.
He asked if we had what we needed.
He thanked us for what we were doing.
He had his aid take down the names of some of my Shipmates from MA, and we later learned that he sent a personal note to their families.

He later gave a speech on the Flight Deck. He talked about his brother serving in the Navy. He talked about working with the President (Reagan at the time, I believe) to ensure we had the training, supplies and maintenance that we needed. He talked about America and what it means to have folks willing to deploy for 6-9 months at a time to defend us. He talked about how important it is to keep the Sea Lanes open.

NOT ONE TIME DID THE WORDS DEMOCRAT, OR REPUBLICAN come out of his mouth. Not one time did he attack a political opponent. Not one time did I feel like he was there for a campaign event.

As a military member, you will have the President, Vice President, Congressional Members, Governors, and other political folks visit your commands and your bases. The tradition and the norm is that they come to thank you for your service. They come to do fact finding missions, they come to pass out awards, and they come to tell you how much they appreciate the sacrifices you make.

In addition, as a military member, you are a "captive audience". It's not like; "Hey, the Presidents coming for an All Hands, please try to be there". Oh...and you'd better not "Boo" or heckle. That's why having a partisan attack during one of these visits is so fucking troubling.

I know he's the CinC, but someone needs to grab him by the nose and make it clear to him that this shit is NOT ACCEPTABLE.

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Response to maxrandb (Reply #12)

Thu Mar 15, 2018, 06:29 PM

13. It doesn't matter to me what title trump

holds.. he was rigged in by the Russians and their enablers.

He's a pos, with a big stupid mouth.. who's not fit to hold the office.

It's too bad the Marines he was spewing propaganda to were only enabling him.

My hope is.. more and more of those in the military call him out for this.. "Fake news" bullshit.. and his partisain attacks to the military.

Thank you for your service, maxrand

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