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Tue Mar 13, 2018, 05:02 PM

Just After Tillerson Learned He Was Fired

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Reply Just After Tillerson Learned He Was Fired (Original post)
JimGinPA Mar 2018 OP
Gothmog Mar 2018 #1
keithbvadu2 Mar 2018 #2
Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #3
NCjack Mar 2018 #4
Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #5
NCjack Mar 2018 #12
OnDoutside Mar 2018 #17
NCjack Mar 2018 #21
OnDoutside Mar 2018 #22
Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #20
lunatica Mar 2018 #6
Honeycombe8 Mar 2018 #7
lunatica Mar 2018 #8
Upthevibe Mar 2018 #9
OnDoutside Mar 2018 #18
magicarpet Mar 2018 #10
lunatica Mar 2018 #13
Snotcicles Mar 2018 #11
mtngirl47 Mar 2018 #14
Meowmee Mar 2018 #15
TheBlackAdder Mar 2018 #16
RiverStone Mar 2018 #19

Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 05:15 PM

1. LOL

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:47 PM

2. On speed dial?

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 06:58 PM

3. I don't get these guys. Trump treats him horribly, and he still says he appreciates the opportunity.

I guess that's how badly Tillerson wanted the job to add to his credentials. He was Sec'y of State...but not really. He wasn't allowed to do anything or even have a full staff. He was publicly ridiculed. Trump humiliated him in tweets.

Tillerson was a big guy. The head of Exxon. A "friend of Russia" with a medal to prove it. He didn't need this. Why? I don't get it.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:12 PM

4. Tilly had one very important job -- work with congress to get the Russia sanctions removed.

Instead, he worked on crap, like tension in Korea, peace in Africa. He just could not focus on the sanctions.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #4)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:15 PM

5. What makes you think that?

The sanctions were never done. Trump didn't need a Secy of State for that.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #5)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:35 PM

12. Tilly was Exxon CEO and did with Putin the biggest oil deal ever in the world.

To collect his "thank you" bonus from Exxon, the deal had to go thru. That required the Obama sanctions being revoked. The Sec. of State can walk into the office of any member of congress and talk deals he could make in exchange for votes to remove the sanctions. No other member of the Administration had such access and govt budget to do it. But, it did not happen because Tilley is too timid to sell such enormously corrupt deals. He probably got rebuffed by several important members of congress and was too discouraged to keep trying. So he failed Trump and Putin in their plan to make a lot of money in bring Russian oil to market, and he failed his own self interest to get his Exxon bonus.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #12)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:01 PM

17. While i agree with the thrust of what you are saying, I don't think there was much Tillerson could

do, as both he and Trump were outflanked by Congress, who by 496-4 passed the extra sanctions. While Trump has failed to implement those extra sanctions, it meant that he couldn't then unwind the current sanctions. Since that was all Tillerson was clearly there for, he was of no further use.

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Response to OnDoutside (Reply #17)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 05:54 AM

21. I agree. Not much he could do. So, he failed Trump/Putin

and had to be tossed under the bus. Failure is not acceptable. And, when Pompeo fails to get the sanctions lifted, he also will get tossed under the bus. Let's not forget that the Sec. of State has functional authority to make corrupt deals with members of congress that are not possible for the president to make. The Sec. of State is a walking, talking candyman. Not getting deals done means you did not offer enough.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #21)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 06:09 AM

22. I suspect the sanctions are on the back burner for now, Pompeo will do Trump's bidding as

directed by Putin in making the US depowered on the world stage.

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Response to NCjack (Reply #12)

Wed Mar 14, 2018, 01:09 AM

20. He got a $180M retirement package.

It's reliant only on his not returning to the oil business for 10 years, is what I read.

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #3)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:15 PM

6. He is a CEO

and he has no love for regular people. Lies are highly useful things in his line of business.

Every word out of his mouth is measured. Spontaneous words die before they get to his tongue. Heís as narcissistic as Trump and Putin and heís now no longer on good terms with them since he didnít deliver on the oil in the arctic circle. He may be ready to slit his own throat at his failure as CEO of Exxon but he will lie to the bitter end.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #6)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:18 PM

7. He did speak one truth: "Trump is a moron." nt

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Response to Honeycombe8 (Reply #7)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:23 PM

8. True dat

but that was passed on by someone else.

My fervent hope is that Tillersen will want to get even and tell us a few damning things about Trump. It wonít be for the good of our country, of course, but it might just help our country.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:29 PM

9. LOL..n/t

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Response to lunatica (Reply #8)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:01 PM

18. He may not want to talk if he was in on it too !!!

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:32 PM

10. Well if it had gone differently....

..... and Russian collusion/conspiracy was never investigated because no one suspected a thing. Oh boy .... Oh boy.... Putin, Tillerson, tRdump and their band of thieving bandits would have been very very rich men.

But they couldn't hide the dead bodies and incriminating evidence fast enough. tRdump is used to operating in the shadows without all that pesky oversight and scrutiny so team tRdump inadvertently got caught in the trap of Putin's making.

Of course it was nearly humanly impossible for Putin to conceive what a total asshole he hooked his fortunes to - as a clown such as tRdump.

For all parties concerned - with team Mueller at the helm - and dogged investigatory journalism by some in media - this was a grand exercise in failure and futility. Hopefully with the major players ending up behind bars enjoying their extended incarceration with their assets clawed back by the government.

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Response to magicarpet (Reply #10)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:39 PM

13. Exactly

They didnít count on the well lit scrutiny of their every action. And evidently a year of the unrelenting focus of that light didnít teach them anything. They just think they can ignore it.

Iím sure theyíre convinced it wonít make a difference in their pursuit of wealth.

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:33 PM

11. Press zero if you have information about criminal activity the President has engaged in. nt

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:53 PM

14. He's not going to talk voluntarily and if he is subpeoned it will be

like Seargant Schultz--"I see nothing, I know nothing"

Tillerson was bought and paid for and he just got some examples of Putin's payback over in the UK.

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:54 PM

15. 😹😹😹

We wish

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Response to JimGinPA (Original post)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 07:57 PM

16. Didn't Tillerson receive the Russian Order of Friendship award? He's no friend of America.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #16)

Tue Mar 13, 2018, 08:14 PM

19. Yes he did. And he is an enabler of oil drilling and pollution dumping to the extreme

But if Rex want's to get even with tRump for being treated like shit, I won't complain.

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