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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA political question for DU Christians.
Only really want opinions from Christians or those with Trump Christian family members.
How do those that voted for Trump and still support him reconcile all of Trumps immoral actions and statements with their personal religious views.
Do they simply not believe things like the Stormy Daniels story?
Or do they think that it is of little importance as long as hes anti abortion and appoints very conservative judges?
Are they just so partisanally hypocritical that that wouldnt allow such behavior from Dems but its ok from a Repub simply because they are on the same team/tribe?
Lars39
(26,272 posts)They are in pretty strong bubbles...if its not on Fox or the preacher doesnt mention it, they dont even know its happening.
If by chance they find out, its fake news.
Drahthaardogs
(6,843 posts)I have a relative who is a nun who voted Trump. She won't talk about it. Radio silence.
I will say this in her defense. She is older and started watching Fox news. I truly she believe she is brainwashed.
phylny
(8,621 posts)is evil personified.
Having said that, I have "Christian" family members who believe:
1) Abortion is murder, and they'd sell their mothers down the river to have abortion made illegal, starting at conception.
2) Prosperity gospel. God "rewards" good Christians with lots of wealth.
3) God uses "imperfect" people to do his will.
4) Supreme Court is the most important factor in an election (see abortion above).
5) They want a Christian nation (see Supreme Court above).
Funtatlaguy
(11,814 posts)I recently read a story explaining what the prosperity Gospel is.
Certainly not what I was taught many years ago about the meek inheriting the earth, rich man and the eye of a needle, etc.
Freddie
(9,763 posts)It's the ONLY thing that far too many voters, especially those who call themselves "Christians", care about. He could drown puppies on TV and start WWIII and if he said he was "pro-life" they'd vote for him.
I think the only way those people could be reached would be if there was credible evidence that Dolt 45 paid for one of his mistresses' abortions. You know damn well he did and more than once, but $$ bought silence.
Funtatlaguy
(11,814 posts)Me: So, do you think that abortion is murder?
Them: Oh, yes.
Me: So, that would make the Doctor who performs the abortion a murderer?
Them: Yes, definitely.
Me: And, what of the woman? Isnt she also a murderer having asked for the murder?
Them: ummm, errr, well....(befuddled look)...Im not sure...Ive gotta Go now.
Ilsa
(62,350 posts)Did you know that 30-40% of pregnancies end in miscarriage, or "spontaneous abortion"? Does that make God an abortionist? A murderer?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)"How do those that voted for Trump and still support him reconcile all of Trumps immoral actions and statements with their personal religious views. "
It's easily reconciled when you truly believe abortion is murder, the Big Dog has partaken in child sex rings, and Hillary wants to turn the country into an atheists utopia.
"Are they just so partisanally hypocritical that that wouldnt allow such behavior from Dems but its ok from a Repub simply because they are on the same team/tribe?"
They believe Democrats are worse. That Democrats take part in every bit as bad of behavior.
Propaganda. It works. Even on us. People right here have promoted that sick fuck Alan Grayson. A known woman abuser. Why? He is mean to Republicans.
el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)I don't spend a lot of time talking about this - for the most part I think my fellow parishiners are eager to discuss politics just now. But that could be because my particular congregation is divided (I know that some very Liberal and vocal folk attend my unit). Those who try to justify it will jump to Abortion as being the key and only important issue - or they, like many conservative, expect Government to be a failure anyway - so an outright crook and bastard like Trump isn't really any different than a well meaning politician - the system itself is corruptive - kind of nihilistic way to look at it, but if you don't think success is possible you don't worry about failure i guess.
Bryant
dawg
(10,777 posts)I believe in forgiveness and mercy.
I believe in feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, and giving alms to the poor.
I believe in "judge not" and "do unto others".
Today's Republican Party stands for the greed and selfishness of Ayn Rand. They stand for "might makes right" and "money talks". And while many of them do speak highly of a person named "Jesus", their Jesus doesn't sound very much like the Jewish carpenter and rabbi that I follow.
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)King Solomon had an endless supply of concubines.
King David arranged for a general to die so that he could sleep with his wife.
The RW Christian crowd sees these sorts of sexual proclivities as a mark of a "great leader" with carnal flaws.
But that's okay, because their invisible friend forgives all of that.
Funtatlaguy
(11,814 posts)Clinton
Edwards
Hart
Weiner
Didnt they vilify all of them as immoral and not worthy of political office?
jberryhill
(62,444 posts)Their invisible friend only forgives their friends.
Funtatlaguy
(11,814 posts)They are used by the Greedy keep my taxes low power brokers of the GOP like the Koch brothers Paul Ryan, etc.
Without these anti abortion foot soldiers aligning with the super wealthy, the GOP would cease to exist in its current firm.
Can that unholy alliance of the two groups be broken?
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)There are all kinds of Christians.
bluestarone
(18,486 posts)He has broken every commandment that there is!! TOTALLY UNEXPLAINABLE in my book!
Funtatlaguy
(11,814 posts)Remember that one.
I aint been churchified all that much, but even I knew it was Second Corinthians.
But, they didnt seem to mind at all.