Mon Mar 5, 2018, 08:06 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
Mueller's leaked 'hit list' may indicate he's treating Trump's team like a 'criminal enterprise'
A Grand Jury subpoena from special counsel Robert Mueller's team reportedly targets the majority of Donald Trump's senior campaign team, including the president, and may indicate criminal wrongdoing within his innermost circle.
The subpoena, seen by and labelled a "hit list" by Axios, asks for all texts, letters, handwritten notes, or communications of any kind starting from November 1, 2015, between one unnamed witness and the following people: Carter Page, a former investment banker and campaign foreign policy adviser. Corey Lewandowski, a former Trump campaign manager. Hope Hicks, Trump's longtime, now ex-communications director. Keith Schiller, Trump's former bodyguard and confidante. Michael Cohen, the longtime personal attorney for Trump. Paul Manafort, Trump's already indicted former campaign chairman. Rick Gates, the former deputy chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign who is now cooperating with Mueller. Roger Stone, a former adviser to Trump who left the campaign before November 1, 2015, but has admitted to having contact with Wikileaks, the organization that leaked hacked emails from the Democratic National Convention. Steve Bannon, former White House and Trump campaign strategist. And, finally, Donald J. Trump, the man himself, makes the list. Importantly, the subpoena's calls for communications that began after November 1, 2015, nearly five months after Trump announced his candidacy. In response to the report, Ned Price, a former CIA official who advised Barack Obama and resigned from the agency rather than work for Trump's administration, tweeted that the subpeona indicated "Mueller is treating it like a criminal enterprise." https://amp.businessinsider.com/muellers-hit-list-targets-trump-may-indicate-criminal-enterprise-2018-3 ![]()
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orangecrush | Mar 2018 | OP |
Botany | Mar 2018 | #1 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #6 | |
Mr. Ected | Mar 2018 | #2 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #7 | |
PunksMom | Mar 2018 | #3 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #8 | |
Hortensis | Mar 2018 | #19 | |
marylandblue | Mar 2018 | #31 | |
Hortensis | Mar 2018 | #33 | |
Generic Brad | Mar 2018 | #11 | |
PRETZEL | Mar 2018 | #4 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #9 | |
Nitram | Mar 2018 | #5 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #10 | |
Maeve | Mar 2018 | #14 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #23 | |
beachbum bob | Mar 2018 | #12 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #24 | |
zentrum | Mar 2018 | #13 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2018 | #15 | |
zentrum | Mar 2018 | #16 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2018 | #18 | |
zentrum | Mar 2018 | #21 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #28 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #29 | |
marylandblue | Mar 2018 | #32 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2018 | #36 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #25 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2018 | #35 | |
kentuck | Mar 2018 | #17 | |
lagomorph777 | Mar 2018 | #20 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #27 | |
bluestarone | Mar 2018 | #22 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #26 | |
marylandblue | Mar 2018 | #30 | |
orangecrush | Mar 2018 | #34 |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 08:37 AM
Botany (67,448 posts)
1. "between one unnamed witness"
My guesses are
Flynn or Rudy G or Eric Prince or the Mercers "Mueller is treating it like a criminal enterprise." ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Response to Botany (Reply #1)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:46 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
6. Translation...
Mueller is treating it exactly like what it is. |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 08:44 AM
Mr. Ected (9,264 posts)
2. I'm thinking it may be Sam Nunberg
He seems to covet the attention and has been a regular on Ari's show on MSNBC.
The question is, why? |
Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #2)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:48 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
7. So many choices
Mueller wants ot to be a surprise! ![]() |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:23 AM
PunksMom (440 posts)
3. Mueller never leaks anything
Calculated move perhaps?
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Response to PunksMom (Reply #3)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:48 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
8. No doubt whatsoever
An intentional leak. |
Response to orangecrush (Reply #8)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 12:27 PM
Hortensis (55,739 posts)
19. Yes. If it's from Mueller, it's intentional.
No real "leaks" from his investigation, only releases of information.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #19)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 02:24 PM
marylandblue (12,344 posts)
31. It's almost certaintly from the witness in question
Response to marylandblue (Reply #31)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 02:33 PM
Hortensis (55,739 posts)
33. Yes. Good party conversation for some. :)
Response to PunksMom (Reply #3)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:57 AM
Generic Brad (13,997 posts)
11. Trump most likely is the leaker here
He knows he has been subpoenaed and can't stop complaining about it to others in private. He's off on a Twitter rant this morning to deflect. He has a big mouth and feels like he is under attack. In his view, leaking this is a way to hopefully undermine the investigation.
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Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:45 AM
PRETZEL (3,227 posts)
4. I've also heard that it could be
Chris Christie.
But not sure how much interaction he would have had with some of these people. |
Response to PRETZEL (Reply #4)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:49 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
9. That would be an interesting twist
It's going to be a great week! ![]() |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:46 AM
Nitram (20,359 posts)
5. Not "like" a criminal enterprise. They ARE a criminal enterprise.
Response to Nitram (Reply #5)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 09:50 AM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
10. If it walks like a duck....
talks like a duck, it probably is a criminal enterprise. |
Response to orangecrush (Reply #10)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:21 AM
Maeve (41,481 posts)
14. So that explains why he's quackers! eom
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:17 AM
beachbum bob (10,437 posts)
12. I hope to hear mention of RICO charges
especially against the trumps and all their illegal financial gains.
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Response to beachbum bob (Reply #12)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:45 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
24. that would replace
some of what they've grifted . |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:18 AM
zentrum (9,864 posts)
13. What keeps them
…from shredding as many records as they possibly can starting right now if not months ago?
Even if a copy of a shredded document shows up in some one else's record, why can't the shredder claim " I lost it. Never saw it. Just don't know what happened to that document." But meantime, there may be key material that never turns up again—the shredding can eliminate many important things—no? |
Response to zentrum (Reply #13)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 10:30 AM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
15. No.
Shredding is so passé in this electronic age. email is forever. Mueller's no fool; he doesn't think any members of the enterprise (except those already in his steely cold grasp) will give up the goods. The subpoena will be presented to the keepers of the servers, such as GSA, and whatever internet providers these crooks were using in their pre-Government days.
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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #15)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:14 AM
zentrum (9,864 posts)
16. Yes, and yet...
…..he has subpoenaed hand written material too. Just like Osama Bin Laden and now ISIS, as I understand it, used and uses land couriers for their most sensitive communications. Not everyone on Mueller's list is a complete idiot—like Roger Stone—they'd know that the Cloud or whatever is forever.
Putin and various players must be busily having their electronic whizzes destroy electronic records as much as possible. It will be techie vs. techie, I guess. |
Response to zentrum (Reply #16)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 12:27 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
18. Yeah, geek-on-geek violence.
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #18)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:36 PM
zentrum (9,864 posts)
21. Very funny. n/t
Response to zentrum (Reply #16)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:52 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
29. Criminal enterprise
may well be an understatement. |
Response to zentrum (Reply #16)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 02:27 PM
marylandblue (12,344 posts)
32. handwritten material is a routine request
So no surprise they would ask. But if it's a witness planning to cooperate, he will turn it over.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #32)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 05:16 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
36. Yes cooperating witnesses will have to turn over paper materials.
Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #15)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:47 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
25. Good point!
And the NSA may well be involved as well. |
Response to orangecrush (Reply #25)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 05:15 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
35. NSA is clearly providing materials; that's evident in the indictment of 13 Russians.
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 11:30 AM
kentuck (108,841 posts)
17. How successful will he be?
Trumpsters have no qualms about hiding information, regardless of legal threats.
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Response to kentuck (Reply #17)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 12:28 PM
lagomorph777 (30,613 posts)
20. These subpoenas are mostly going to go to 3rd parties.
i.e. GSA and ISPs.
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Response to kentuck (Reply #17)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:50 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
27. It looks to me
like the intelligence services are now involved My guess is Mueller will get whatever the hell he wants. |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:40 PM
bluestarone (14,739 posts)
22. Is it possible he's sending signals to the repubs in congress!
Kinda like say they better be doing something about this asshole?
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Response to bluestarone (Reply #22)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 01:48 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
26. that
or go down with the ship. |
Response to orangecrush (Original post)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 02:22 PM
marylandblue (12,344 posts)
30. Why isn't Jared on this list?
Response to marylandblue (Reply #30)
Mon Mar 5, 2018, 04:55 PM
orangecrush (16,516 posts)
34. a lot of speculation on that
including that he may have secretly flipped. |