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Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:45 PM

Amazon is officially the new Walmart only worse

Amazon is under fire after refusing to cut the NRA's TV show from its streaming service.

The e-commerce giant's behavior is under the microscope, as cities offer up millions of dollars in tax incentives as they compete over HQ2.

Walmart was once portrayed as the biggest villain in American capitalism. Now, Amazon is becoming the new symbol of everything that's wrong with big business.

As Americans demand that companies take a stand on gun control, Walmart is stepping up and Amazon is falling short.

http://www.businessinsider.com/amazon-vs-walmart-gun-control-hq2-2018-3?r=UK&IR=T

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Reply Amazon is officially the new Walmart only worse (Original post)
HAB911 Mar 2018 OP
Calculating Mar 2018 #1
HAB911 Mar 2018 #2
randr Mar 2018 #3
democratisphere Mar 2018 #4
marylandblue Mar 2018 #14
lame54 Mar 2018 #17
marybourg Mar 2018 #5
HAB911 Mar 2018 #6
Calculating Mar 2018 #7
Hortensis Mar 2018 #8
PatSeg Mar 2018 #10
sunonmars Mar 2018 #9
Azathoth Mar 2018 #11
Lunabell Mar 2018 #12
HAB911 Mar 2018 #13
SoCalDem Mar 2018 #15
politicaljunkie41910 Mar 2018 #16
Henry Krinkle Mar 2018 #18
MichMan Mar 2018 #19

Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:49 PM

1. Companies have no obligation to take a stand on political issues

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Response to Calculating (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:53 PM

2. But but but corporations are people and can if they had the morals

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Response to Calculating (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 03:59 PM

3. Heard a discussion on MSNBC this morning that contradicts

Apparently more and more millennials are investing and demanding social accountability above returns.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:00 PM

4. This isn't a political issue. This is a safety issue and they need to take a stand

or risk losing a substantial amount of business; more losses than if they continue to support the NRA.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:51 PM

14. Corporations are political entities

They were created by governments to carry out government-sanctioned activities. The first ones were for building colonial empires. They are not people, but they are also not neutral bystanders whose sole goal should be making a profit.

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Response to Calculating (Reply #1)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:32 PM

17. Consumers have no obligation to give them their money

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:01 PM

5. Disagree with the premise

of this story. Carrying NRA tv, whatever that is, is not "everything that's wrong with big business". I think not paying living wages, and not offering benefits are what's wrong with some big businesses.

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Response to marybourg (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:11 PM

6. guns are only a small part of the premise

Bezos still advertises on Breitbart, pays employees shit and slave drives them

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Response to marybourg (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:12 PM

7. This

There are plenty of legit reasons to boycott Amazon(I'm doing so myself), but their association with the NRA is pretty low on the list. How about boycotting them because they're trying to monopolize all commerce in America and they treat their employees like slaves while Bezos has 120B or something like that?

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Response to marybourg (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:13 PM

8. I agree. Walmart was #1 in revenues on the planet

in 2017 (also earlier years) according to Forbes' global list at $485,873,000,000. Business in general has been seeing very high profits for decades now, except when their own greed and irresponsibility drive us into recessions.

What can compare with the "wrong" of business not paying a living wage for full-time permanent work?

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Response to marybourg (Reply #5)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:14 PM

10. And refusing to pull advertising from Breitbart,

in spite of numerous petitions and request from both customers and employees.

As for the NRA TV issue, Amazon undoubtedly has some contractual agreement, and probably cannot just stop streaming it. However, they could at least respond to customers' concerns and make some kind of commitment to stop in the future.

Amazon used to be so customer service oriented, but lately they just act like they don't care.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:13 PM

9. I never buy from amazon, if i can go to the shop i will and i wont use the tv things.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:15 PM

11. The refusal to cave to censorship demands is one of the few things to their credit

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:40 PM

12. The ones who howl the loudest about "censorship"

Don't understand that we live in a free market system and hitting them in the pocketbook is freedom. Lmao, capitalism, sigh...

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Response to Lunabell (Reply #12)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 04:44 PM

13. +++++++++++

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:02 PM

15. I really don't mind..

I prefer gun nuts flopped out on their couches with a bowl of nachos and a beer, binge-watching gun shows..

we are all a bit safer that way

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 05:30 PM

16. I always believed that Amazon is worse than Walmart. I know people who've worked at Walmart

and while the pay wasn't the greatest, they had no problem working for the company and didn't feel disrected. We have an Amazon Fulfillment center in San Bernardino County, California that I posted an article about a month ago and the people there seemed to hate it. They felt they were constantly driven to meet tough demands for mediocre pay and less benefits than a Stater Bros center across the street from them which basically did the same type of work but paid better and offered better medical benefits for less. The guy knew because his brother worked at the Stater Bros center across the street which is how he knew. I've had several relatives who worked at that same Amazon Fulfillment Center (they all applied for jobs there when it opened having been familiar with the Amazon name and it was coming to their area) and offered medical benefits. The medical benefits turned out to be too costly based on the amount they were earning, and the best thing they could say about it was that it motivated them to find something better, and they did.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:04 PM

18. Why WOULD Amazon cave in to a boycott?

 

How many 10's of millions of steady customers do they have in this country?
How many worldwide?
How many people would enthusiastically boycott them for any reason, let alone
for some stupid TV show that even most NRA members have even heard of, and
even fewer actually watch?
I'd be surprised if even 25,000 people boycotted them for it.
How many people will claim that they're boycotting Amazon, but have never
ordered anything from them to begin with?

Truthfully speaking, Amazon is a god send for me.
I've been an Amazon Prime member for about 5 years now, place maybe 25 - 30
orders a year.

Where else can I buy hard to find auto parts, a laptop battery, buffalo wing seasoning, bird seed (for my parrot),
and shaving soap, placed in a single order all from the comfort and convince of my home, and with a click of the
mouse, have it all sitting on my doorstep with 72 hours or less?

It just makes common sense rather than drive miles out of my way, spend hours shopping for
something I may never find, and not having to deal with idiot sales people, crowded lines and
fighting other drivers for parking spaces.

They know that myself and millions of others aren't going anywhere.

Jeff Bezos would have to personally murder my mother before I abandoned them.

Ohh, and for the record, they're welcome to locate their 2'nd HQ anywhere they want to, as
long as it isn't within a hundred miles of Boston.

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Response to HAB911 (Original post)

Sat Mar 3, 2018, 06:13 PM

19. So now that Wal Mart announced they wont sell guns to those under 21, how many here.....

....are rushing to shop there now that refused to earlier?

There are a lot of things I don't favor, but I don't demand they be taken off the air; I just don't watch them

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