Should we start practicing saying President Pence?

[Funtatlaguy]

Mueller is apparently getting very close to the Oval Office.
All of the pressure on Manafort, Kushner, and the departure of Hope Hines are big news.
Can Mueller get Trump on the three biggies?: obstruction, collusion, money laundering.

I think he already has obstruction nailed.
Prob has money laundering.
Has violations of emoluments clause.
And may be to close to collusion, coordination, or something like it.

In March, I bet we hear that Trump will refuse to be interviewed by Mueller on advice of counsel.

More than anything he doesn’t want his finances, including taxes, disclosed.

I bet he would make a deal with the GOP leadership and DOJ to resign before the midterms.
Keep my finances quiet and I will admit that I unknowingly obstructed Justice.
He will claim ignorance and the GOP and their media mouthpieces will go along with that.

Start listening to hear on right wing radio and Fox hints that they are moving away from Trump and toward Pence.
They will defend Pence at all costs.
Unless Mueller has some kind of smoking gun that also brings down Pence, I think he will be President by June.
This will give the GOP time to hone their message for the midterms.
It will go like this.

Paul Ryan statement:
“We are very disappointed in the actions of President Trump. He let power go to his head and ended up obstructing Justice. Fortunately, those of us in the Republican Party who have put country over party have rightfully voted for his Impeachment. But, with the Presidents appropriate decision to resign, the country was saved having to go through the impeachment process. The good news is that we have a person with the utmost character and ability to assume the role of Commander in Chief. Mike Pence has unquestioned ethics, morality, and the correct temperament for the job at this time in our country’s history. I know that you all will join me in wishing him well. God Bless America.”

[Lochloosa]

1. Pence is up to his eyes in this and it won't stop Mueller.

[Funtatlaguy]

9. I know that he is. But, I just cant see where it happens.

Again, unless someone was wearing a mike and caught Pence on tape with something outrageous. I think he will be protected.
Of course, I’d love for what you say to be true and this all happen in December after we win back the House in November.
Impeach both Trump and Pence, and it’s then President Pelosi.
Then the rednecks use all of their gun stockpiles and storm the White House.
Omg, what a time we are living in. The twilight zone.

[hedda_foil]

37. Manafort (and possibly Gates or Flynn, ) holds the key to Pence.

[Luciferous]

2. I think he would be worse than Trump

[liberal N proud]

3. I will not call him president either

Neither belong in office, both gained power through illicit means and do not deserve the respect of being called President.

[dewsgirl]

4. Pence is just better at this, if he does become president it will be one of the shortest tenures

Ever.

[Sancho]

5. President Pelosi sounds better.

Just saying.

[vercetti2021]

6. If Pence is just as involved

What...about...president Ryan?! OH GOD NO!

[njhoneybadger]

7. I'll bet Putin has tapes on pence

[Mr. Ected]

8. Pence's time in the barrel is coming soon

He's up to his eyeballs in the conspiracy. This will certainly not escape Mueller's attention.

[gademocrat7]

10. Not Pentecostal pence.

Remember Manafort convinced chump to pick pence for Vice President. Pence is complicit in this evil scheme.

[TEB]

11. NO pence is a traitorous asshole as well

[rainin]

12. We should be laying out Pence 's crimes now.

If we wait, it will be harder for the uninformed to believe he's dirty too. Once the country goes through one resignation or impeachment, they won't have the stomach for another.

[Funtatlaguy]

18. This.

Absolutely.

[BigmanPigman]

13. He will never resign, the GOP will stick by his side and

support him, and if it does happen that he is no longer the fake prez (maybe eating too much junk food) Pence will not become POTUS since he had Russian ties and finances that are questionable. I am sure Mueller is investigating him too.

Pence lied about Flynn's firing and was chosen by Manafort to be the VP. He is not Mr. Clean.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10029773455

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/10029892213

[redstatebluegirl]

14. Be careful what you wish for Pence

Will be much worse and more dangerous if we do not win big in the fall.

[Vinca]

15. Pence might be going down, too.

(Note: That is the only time you will see the name Pence and the phrase "going down" in a sentence. )

[Funtatlaguy]

19. I see what you did there.

Mother says she just can’t go there.

[Ohiogal]

24. Ha Ha

Seriously, Pence would be very dangerous, especially if you are a woman!

[Funtatlaguy]

34. Yes, abortion is his biggest issue.

Of course, he cares a lot more about the fetus than the child.
Just ask anyone from Indiana.
He’s a nut job in a nice suit and a plastic shite eating grin.

[CentralMass]

16. Sphincter Boy.

[Docreed2003]

17. We all tend to forget that Pence was the choice for VP of Manafort!!

Manafort manipulated Trump and pushed the idea of Pence on the ticket. Pence isn’t some grandfatherly, innocent here...his evangelical ass is knee deep in all of this. Frankly, it would not surprise me if Pence is the “Trojan Horse”, so to speak. They knew Trump was corrupt and would likely go down, so they’ve attempted to keep Pence lily white. He is a part of these shenanigans...either willfully or unwillingly. How else could a shitty governor who wasn’t seeking re-election have winded up on the ticket, at the urging of Paul Manafort!!

[Botany]

21. Newsweek Manafort (Russian agent) picked Pence to be V.P.

http://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-was-handpicked-paul-manafort-696412

Russia is way deep into the Republican party.


Before Trump formally announced Pence as his vice presidential candidate, it was Manafort who made sure it happened, The New York Times reported last year.

Trump had hesitated to settle on Pence, who was governor of Indiana. Trump was fielding last-ditch appeals from New Jersey Governor Chris Christie and publicly said he had not made a “final, final decision” until advisers like Manafort reminded him of the importance of uniting the GOP around conservative Christian values.

CBS News reported that Pence was Manafort's "first choice" and that Manafort even lied about mechanical problems on Trump's plane to make the soon-to-be GOP nominee stay an extra day in Indiana to get to know Pence. In a phone call, Manafort assured Trump that Pence was the right choice and made a case that won over the real estate tycoon.

[Docreed2003]

22. Exactly...Pence is the Russian Trojan Horse...

I just hope his smug ass is caught up in all of this!

[Sherman A1]

20. If the election of Trump is tainted by default

So is that of Pence.

[Funtatlaguy]

23. A lot of tainted things happen. Look at Gorsuch.

It still boggles my mind that Obama didn’t make his own SCOTUS recess appointment.
WORST Decision that he ever made. Sigh.

[Sherman A1]

31. I dont think that they went into recess

And held proforma sessions to prevent him from being able to do so.

[Javaman]

25. pence is in deep shit too.

more like President Pelosi after november.

[Turbineguy]

26. Perhaps some should.

People who work in the Bureau of Prisons for example.

[Kablooie]

27. We may get President Ryan

He's next in line.

Maybe Republicans will wake up and see that unless they dump Trump now they get President Pelosi.

[Lulu KC]

29. But there's that recording of Ryan saying we "keep it in the family"

about Russia. I need to find that--it was a few weeks ago and went flying by, usurped by billions and billions of other scandalous stories.
I know Pence has a lawyer; I'm hoping to hear that Ryan has one, too. A lousy one.

[el_bryanto]

28. Seems possible - I don't now much about Pence except he's a right wing religious conservative

and he seems to have the charisma of a block of wood.

Bryant

[BlueJac]

30. Criminal would be more appropriate...

[nocalflea]

32. Flynn and Gates will have taken care of Pence.

Exchange one traitor for another ?

I don't see the point of leaving Pence in place and I bet Mueller doesn't either.

[EffieBlack]

33. Be careful what you ask for. Pence could be worse than Trump.

[Funtatlaguy]

35. In many ways yes.

Some say he wouldn’t be as prone to get us into a nuclear war as Trump might.
However, what if Pence has a “vision” from God and Mother tells him she’s ready to see Jesus?
At least Trump doesn’t listen to God or anyone else, for that matter.

[yallerdawg]

36. We could call him Placeholder Pence.

With at least a divided Congress and 2020 looking horrible for the R's, Pence would be neutered serving out a disgraced term.