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Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:53 PM

The Charging Mystery in the Russian Indictments....a great read....

Great analysis by Bob Bauer - WH counsel for President Obama - gives his opinion on what comes next..in the Mueller Investigation - charges may have been different, if not for the agency's (FEC) decline...

...snip....

Mueller and his team may have concluded that straight statutory campaign finance allegations rest on too much untested ground and would complicate what may well be the next phase of their investigation.†

The Mueller indictment is conceivably one way to solve this problem. It alleges a conspiracy to prevent the FEC from taking up and addressing the regulatory issues, and American co-conspirators may be brought in on any overt act in furtherance of this illegal scheme. Any U.S. citizen who intentionally supported the Russian electoral intervention could be liable.


https://www.justsecurity.org/52610/charging-mystery-russia-indictments-and-indication-mueller-investigation/

I commented last evening and it was suggested this was almost missed, and should have it's own OP - I'm sure that top notch legal teams are slicing and dicing the information - which makes me think more is coming....

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Reply The Charging Mystery in the Russian Indictments....a great read.... (Original post)
asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 OP
The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #1
Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #2
asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #4
Wellstone ruled Feb 2018 #5
asiliveandbreathe Feb 2018 #3

Response to asiliveandbreathe (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 02:59 PM

1. Clearly this indictment was designed to lay the groundwork

for further indictments, since the 13 Russian defendants will never be arrested or tried. It's what's called a "speaking" indictment, the purpose of which is to explain the underlying investigation and crimes being charged far beyond what's minimally required of an indictment. Mueller has charged these defendants with defrauding the United States by interfering with its election. Like the OP says - this sets the stage for additional indictments of Americans who conspired to commit that crime - maybe Don Jr. and Jared.

I can hardly wait.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:28 PM

2. That is my take on there

 

Indictment's. Appears this is a broad languaged Indictments to be used to charge other Players. What struck me is this,members of Mueller's Team are well versed in Constitutional Law ,and after several failed Government Cases against the Militia movement,this Team is making sure there are know if's ands or buts.

Trump Crime Syndicate will be rolled up and there will be other Political Players rolled up with them.

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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:50 PM

4. ...rolled up by Mueller like a Gotti/Gambino indictment process..his MO...

From article.....

Any U.S. citizen who intentionally supported the Russian electoral intervention could be liable.

Examples would include U.S. citizens engaged in conversations like those in Trump Tower in summer of 2016, or Don, Jr.ís communications with WikiLeaks about the timing of the release of stolen emails.

†The conspiracy to defraud the United States could also envelop any Americans who helped cover the Russiansí illegal electoral program by lying to federal authorities about the campaignís Russian contacts.

Yes, indeedie...

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Response to asiliveandbreathe (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:04 PM

5. Just caught a Story on Raw Story

 

concerning the Kushner Companies being Subpoenaed by the IRS. Mentioned before these investigations will be ongoing for years to come.

Mueller has Trumps Tax Returns and most likely has his Books or access to them. Sure moving like a RICO action.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 03:48 PM

3. Thank you for clarifyng "speaking" indictments...IF, as the article expresses,

The FEC had more teeth, "agency decline" - by design, by this admin...indictment may have been different - afa as Don jr..and others....(not named)

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Any U.S. citizen who intentionally supported the Russian electoral intervention could be liable.

Examples would include U.S. citizens engaged in conversations like those in Trump Tower in summer of 2016, or Don, Jr.ís communications with WikiLeaks about the timing of the release of stolen emails.

The conspiracy to defraud the United States could also envelop any Americans who helped cover the Russiansí illegal electoral program by lying to federal authorities about the campaignís Russian contacts.

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