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Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:26 AM

Soon, Trump voters are going to have a head on collision with reality.

Mueller is reality. In my opinion this is one of the most dangerous periods in our countries history for this reason.

The Republican party , Trump, Fox news, propaganda campaign against their voters has been completely successful. Trump voters now believe in fake news. They don't care about the Russia investigation, fake news. They don't care about the bad things they hear about Trump. Fake news. Trump voters are under the complete control of propaganda. It is a major threat to our democracy.

When the Mueller investigation ends it's going to be brutal on Trump and the people who have worked for him. It will be shocking to Trump voters watching so many people getting indicted, pleading guilty, articles of impeachment being brought forth against Trump.

We are going to witness what happens when propaganda hits head on with reality. This will be historic.

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Reply Soon, Trump voters are going to have a head on collision with reality. (Original post)
shockey80 Feb 2018 OP
vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #1
dchill Feb 2018 #13
vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #21
dchill Feb 2018 #23
vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #25
bdamomma Feb 2018 #28
dchill Feb 2018 #29
bdamomma Feb 2018 #30
Eliot Rosewater Feb 2018 #36
Downtown Hound Feb 2018 #42
Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #47
DownriverDem Feb 2018 #20
vercetti2021 Feb 2018 #22
CentralMass Feb 2018 #34
Zorro Feb 2018 #2
pandr32 Feb 2018 #26
LonePirate Feb 2018 #3
byronius Feb 2018 #27
enough Feb 2018 #4
maryellen99 Feb 2018 #6
GallopingGhost Feb 2018 #15
getagrip_already Feb 2018 #50
uponit7771 Feb 2018 #5
Afromania Feb 2018 #7
Kashkakat v.2.0 Feb 2018 #8
rock Feb 2018 #9
kentuck Feb 2018 #10
Mr. Ected Feb 2018 #11
dchill Feb 2018 #14
Mr. Ected Feb 2018 #16
dchill Feb 2018 #18
Javaman Feb 2018 #12
dalton99a Feb 2018 #17
Paladin Feb 2018 #19
ancianita Feb 2018 #24
Ilsa Feb 2018 #31
Texin Feb 2018 #32
CanonRay Feb 2018 #33
chuckstevens Feb 2018 #35
zentrum Feb 2018 #37
enid602 Feb 2018 #38
Nitram Feb 2018 #39
rickford66 Feb 2018 #40
kimbutgar Feb 2018 #41
watoos Feb 2018 #43
shockey80 Feb 2018 #44
dembotoz Feb 2018 #45
Bayard Feb 2018 #46
notKeith Feb 2018 #48
lindalou65 Feb 2018 #49
vi5 Feb 2018 #51
ffr Feb 2018 #54
awesomerwb1 Feb 2018 #52
NoMoreRepugs Feb 2018 #53
Jake Stern Feb 2018 #55
Gothmog Feb 2018 #56
jimlup Feb 2018 #57

Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:28 AM

1. Sorry to tell you this

Mueller is the enemy trying to take down their beloved messiah. They live in some warped reality that the FBI is the enemy and Humpty dRumpty is the victim.

Sadly...that is the case now. Reality doesn't exist to the alt-right.

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:13 AM

13. In the end, reality ALWAYS prevails.

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:35 AM

21. For us it does

To them? Too far gone to even know what reality is anymore

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:38 AM

23. Reality TV shows always get cancelled.

Reality is what does it.

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Response to dchill (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:39 AM

25. I don't want to think of us as a reality show

I want this to be reality itself just what we're living it isn't that

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:41 AM

28. facts too

nt

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:43 AM

29. Reality IS fact.

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Response to dchill (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:44 AM

30. true.

nt

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:56 AM

36. Not if the nazi's and Putin are able to use fake news to reverse everything here as

has been done elsewhere.

Deplorables are not going to sit back and accept justice on their corrupt leaders.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #36)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:09 PM

42. Bring 'em on!

I'm not scared of these cowards and we can take anything they can throw at us! They can do whatever they're going to do, whether it's whine, march, riot, or (most likely), cling to their guns and threaten everybody with them. I refuse to live in fear of them, and Trump is not getting away with this. Let the whole world see who they really are when justice is done!

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Response to dchill (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:21 PM

47. Ask al gore and John Kerry about that

 

Hope it proves true this time, though

Fervently

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Response to vercetti2021 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:34 AM

20. DC repubs

are traitors for protecting trump. The majority of the country does not believe a word trump says.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:37 AM

22. Of course nobody believes him

Only the blindly devoted and too far gone idiots believe him

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #20)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:46 AM

34. This.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:29 AM

2. Fuck 'em

I am really tired with dumbassery dominating our political landscape.

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Response to Zorro (Reply #2)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:39 AM

26. Yep

I couldn't agree more. It is everywhere and sucking all the air out of everything.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

3. I am waiting for Mueller to indict and arrest Jr. and Jared. That is when heads will explode.

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Response to LonePirate (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:41 AM

27. The evidence lying around in public view is pretty damning.

And I think you're right, that's a big step.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:37 AM

4. If it happens, they won't be aware. NT

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Response to enough (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:40 AM

6. Yep because Fox and Breitbart wont report it nt

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:18 AM

15. When there's major

breaking news on CNN, I'll sometimes turn on Faux for a second to see if they're reporting it. Hardly ever; it's usually some phony "scandal" headline involving the Clintons or President Obama.

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Response to GallopingGhost (Reply #15)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:52 PM

50. even after the indictments were dropped..

if you went to foxnews.com the main headline was the fbi failing to pursue the shooter lead in florida. The other main headlines were just random crap, including some redneck family that got into a fight on a cruise ship and had to be ejected.

The only place the indictments appears was a small box in a series of vid clips. But no comentary or analysis was provided. you had to watch the clip, which I didn't bother to do.

So yeah, no coverage is pretty much the norm on major stories that don't match their agenda.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:38 AM

5. Obama: ".. reality has a way of catching up with you ... "

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:44 AM

7. reality is real and once their fantasy bubble pops they'll be all alone in the hell they've created.

Well, technically not all alone, but any voice they had will be muted because the rest of the country understands that those people can't be trusted not to get us all killed over their dangerous ass "ideologies".

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:46 AM

8. OK - except a good 30 % of voters are cultists and when the alt reality of a cultist is threatened

they entrench even deeper. What I am hopeful for though is that the majority of us who are NOT cultists will finally rise up and say ENOUGH. So many examples I could cite where conflict was resolved not by extremists seeing the folly of their ways, but by being marginalized and disempowered. Ive said all along that the problem is not white nationalists and far right extremists, its that theyve been empowered/enabled by the mainstream republican party.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:56 AM

9. If they didn't believe all that was fake news

That would make them wrong, stupid, and easily duped. Consider their choices. And remember they are wrong, stupid, and easily duped.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:57 AM

10. It's going to take a while.

We assume that Mueller is going to be around all that time.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:02 AM

11. There's only one reality

Ours.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:18 AM

14. Reality belongs to no one.

We can only attempt to recognize it. We belong to IT - all of us, whether we believe it or not.

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Response to dchill (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:23 AM

16. Existentially, of course

But our reality will be born out by indictments, prosecutions and imprisonment.

Their "reality" will be exposed in the process.

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Response to Mr. Ected (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:26 AM

18. Reality is the Highlander.

In the end there can be only one.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:08 AM

12. Mueller is a mac truck, trump is a yugo. nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:25 AM

17. A De-Trumpification program will be needed similar to denazification

of Germany after WWII. But we know this will not happen, and most Trump voters will be Trump voters - willfully ignorant, racist, hateful assholes - until they die off.

But fuck them. The welfare and well-being of the cult is not my concern.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:28 AM

19. I honestly don't think most of them are capable of a reality check, any longer. (nt)

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:39 AM

24. Reality By Belief frames has always collided with Reality By Science frames. RBB

rolls right off the RBS and keeps on rolling, picking up new generations of children who've been brainwashed by religions used by parents as a substitute for their own efforts at moral teaching.

The head-on will be just what the religious need when they hear their children tell them they've been duped by so many for so long they don't even know who their friends in government really are.

But as Obama said, they'll cling to their religion and their guns

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:45 AM

31. Morning joe had Brief interviews with voters on the street in Nunes' district.

That's the "Central valley" per NBC. The few talked to are voting R, don't pay attention to russia story, call some msm news outlets "fake".

It makes me weep that ordinary people like this can be played. Nunes will win again, I'm afraid, unless he's indicted, and soon.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:46 AM

32. Shockey80, I'm hoping you're right - - but, sadly, I can't quite believe that.

If, and that is the biggest small word in the English language these days, Mueller is allowed to survive and complete his investigation of this obscenity, they still would be unmoved by the evidence and they will be convinced that this is a judicial purge of the tRump crime family and the other traitors to the Constitution who threw in with him or downright recruited him on behalf of one of the country's most formidable adversaries. I am totally unpersuaded to believe that these folks will ever change their beliefs about Shitler.

They have been brainwashed because they WANT to believe the propaganda. It fits with their own particular world view and their own prejudices and belief system, along with their bent toward authoritarian doctrinaire. They want their very on Papa Doc - and by, god, they've got him in Shitler. They'll gladly go down with the ship of fools.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:46 AM

33. You are exactly correct except for one thing

after the Mueller investigation is over, even after Trump is out of office, they STILL won't believe it. They are that conditioned to his bullshit. He'll never accept he is guilty, and neither will they. Big trouble IMHO.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:47 AM

35. Two words on how to change SOME Trump supporters:

 

Money laundering.

If the left can frame what happened as Trump "sold out his country for personal financial gain and was a blackmailed puppet of Putin", it will turn some against him.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:00 PM

37. I'm not so optimistic.

Wish I was, but propaganda usually wins. It changes shape just enough to slip in again. Not sure Mueller can definitively nail everyone who is a criminal. Power structures protect vested power.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:00 PM

38. deplos

Deplorables will simply 'deplode.'

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:04 PM

39. You give Trump supporters too much credit. They wouldn't know reality if it bit them on the ass.

They'll just chant that "the system is rigged."

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:06 PM

40. The GOP is still PO'd about Bork.

The elephant never forgets. The only reality they know is reality TV.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:07 PM

41. Im hoping his traitorous acts are on video or recorded via phone calls

I hope it makes their heads explode!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:14 PM

43. I blog on a local right wing site

and I agree there is no arguing with them. However, when Jr. and Jared and others get indicted a big key will be how many patriotic Republicans will step up to the plate? If they all make a pact to go down with Trump I say, game on. Those Trumpers are going to have to double down on their blue pills and I will double down on my red pills. Reality and truth must prevail.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:16 PM

44. There is a good chance phones were tapped.

We have to remember these are very stupid people we are dealing with in the Whitehouse. They were using their cell phones during this investigation. The chances are very good someone was listening.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:19 PM

45. you assume the gop will act...i don't think so...they will deny and coverup

it could get even worse

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:20 PM

46. I suspect

Current mass shootings will be a drop in the bucket to what will ensue. You have to hope most will have more sense, but there will be some that think open rebellion and retribution is the way to go.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:35 PM

48. or..

Trump starts WWIII.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:49 PM

49. Reality check for Trumpers

a Winston Churchill quote that sums up the reality Trumpers will face: "The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is."






























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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:56 PM

51. No. They won't.

They don't live in reality. They don't exist in reality. They live in a world where everyone that is not like them is out to get them and take away what is theirs.

Short of Fox News being forced off the air and the internet being censored, nothing is going to bring these morons back to fact-based reality.

There will always be someone else to blame and excuses to be made.

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Response to vi5 (Reply #51)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:23 PM

54. +1 Conservatives are a lost cause.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:12 PM

52. There is no hope for most of them (98%)

Not with Faux, Brainfart,national enquirer, winger radio and Russia manipulating reality.

They'll believe in extraterrestrials and bigfoot before they believe anything bad about cheetolini.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:18 PM

53. Millions of ignorant goobers with tens of

millions of guns and hundreds of millions of rounds are
a true threat to all of us IMO.... do not underestimate the ignorance of some of the American public.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:26 PM

55. I feel the exact opposite: They'll rally 'round their leader even more.

In fact I fear an insurrection of some sort if a Dem president is elected in 2020. With the courts freshly packed with fellow RW ideologues and the fact that the Feds can really bungle a prosecution get ready for more Bundy style armed occupations except this time it won't be some wildlife preserve in Oregon, it'll be government buildings and offices.

Also expect to see racist, right wing law enforcement openly sympathizing with the seditionists.

The Pandora's Box has been opened and it's going to be near impossible to stuff it back in.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:32 PM

56. This will be fun to watch

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:42 PM

57. The problem is that they won't

they are now so insulated from reality that they can't face it. I waste some time on the cesspool of a site skinner still runs called

discussionist.com

It is impressive to see how impervious to reality they are.

The site is overrun with Trumpites. These people are incapable of reality. Fox News and Brietbart and Limbaugh have helped make them that way. They are frightened and afraid and they think the world is against them. They will call it a "leftist plot to take over the government" They are all but shaking with anger and irrationality. They couldn't see reality if it smashed them in the face.

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