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laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:38 AM Feb 2018

NRA Sends Intimidating Letter - Warns of Hostilty

Basically, the NRA is demanding an answer with threat.

Think we should respond! The letter, signed by Scott Jones (with his email), names Daniel.Augustine (with his email) - demands an answer from the candidate - with inferences of presumption of hostility.

Coming from a GUN organization - Shheesshh!

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NRA Sends Intimidating Letter - Warns of Hostilty (Original Post) laserhaas Feb 2018 OP
I dream of a day genxlib Feb 2018 #1
Oh Yay...Oh Yay laserhaas Feb 2018 #3
Oh, so do I! smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #7
Due to web & phone access thereof laserhaas Feb 2018 #37
In Wisconsin that letter could backfire. Looks like a computer generated letter. George II Feb 2018 #15
Blue ink isn't allowed to be pc generated laserhaas Feb 2018 #38
??? hueymahl Feb 2018 #59
A legal standard is "Blue ink is original" laserhaas Feb 2018 #61
It is a form letter. "Dear Wisconsin Judicial Candidate." Chiyo-chichi Feb 2018 #55
That's what I meant by "computer generated". George II Feb 2018 #56
I knew you did. Chiyo-chichi Feb 2018 #58
wad it up. mail it back. and tell them to shove it up their collective asses. spanone Feb 2018 #2
With an instruction manual laserhaas Feb 2018 #4
👍🏼 spanone Feb 2018 #6
/ this Snackshack Feb 2018 #14
Use it for toilet paper first Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #31
Ha Ha laserhaas Feb 2018 #39
tape it to a brick crazycatlady Feb 2018 #64
I used to work for a conservative Republican organization MariaCSR Feb 2018 #5
Sounds like terrorism IronLionZion Feb 2018 #17
That is what the NRA and most of its rabid supporters justhanginon Feb 2018 #25
This latest shooting proves we have to take violent threats seriously IronLionZion Feb 2018 #29
WOW laserhaas Feb 2018 #40
Yep, those cards scared the hell out of me MariaCSR Feb 2018 #71
A phone #, an email address, and his postal address Botany Feb 2018 #8
I think we know what to do with that tparrett62 Feb 2018 #10
I emailed him already and asked if they pay him in rubles? Botany Feb 2018 #11
I sent the following Plucketeer Feb 2018 #35
Luv that post script laserhaas Feb 2018 #41
Fuck the NRA! They deserve to be kicked in the ass for this! Initech Feb 2018 #9
Concur laserhaas Feb 2018 #42
Too bad it is illegal Takket Feb 2018 #12
We could rent a tractor and deliver a pile laserhaas Feb 2018 #43
www.poopsenders.com crazycatlady Feb 2018 #65
Did you notice the bullet holes at the bottom of the letter? Louis1895 Feb 2018 #13
Thanks for pointing that out. Bullies love violent iconography. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #20
Oh, is that what they are. Farmer-Rick Feb 2018 #33
Say what! laserhaas Feb 2018 #44
"Dear NRA, and Mister Jones... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #16
He should do what Bill Baxby once did when a KKK leader threatened him 47of74 Feb 2018 #26
That works too... Wounded Bear Feb 2018 #28
Appropriate response laserhaas Feb 2018 #45
Sincerely....................GO FUCK yourself NRA turbinetree Feb 2018 #18
Kudos to you laserhaas Feb 2018 #46
NRA sells fear, so they generate fear, and fundamentally they are bullies. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2018 #19
And they took money (purportedly) laserhaas Feb 2018 #47
My campaign is wrestling with this. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2018 #21
Awh...man laserhaas Feb 2018 #27
Wow leftstreet Feb 2018 #54
I cannot get to DC, but we are having a march here on March 24th as well. Pacifist Patriot Feb 2018 #60
Awesome laserhaas Feb 2018 #62
If we ever get our country back... woundedkarma Feb 2018 #22
Exacty! laserhaas Feb 2018 #48
they do that all day on 1500 radio stations to anyone who thinks about gun control certainot Feb 2018 #23
That should be a crime laserhaas Feb 2018 #49
just sent an e-mail, not delivered, no such user Motley13 Feb 2018 #24
His position should be that Wayne LaPierre and all the staff at NRA need to be......SHOT Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #30
Way too far a premise laserhaas Feb 2018 #50
Its the Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #72
They are at war with us. Gabi Hayes Feb 2018 #73
My vote will go to Burns tomorrow........nt Heartstrings Feb 2018 #32
Awesime laserhaas Feb 2018 #51
My position as a judicial candidate (which I am not) is: Stonepounder Feb 2018 #34
Spot On laserhaas Feb 2018 #52
here is an e-mail address NRAF@NRAHQ. ORG Motley13 Feb 2018 #36
THANKS laserhaas Feb 2018 #53
If I was the candidate, I'd respond to Scott Jones this way: go fuck yourself. Vinca Feb 2018 #57
Judicial candidates generally may not (or at least ought not) respond to such letters. TomSlick Feb 2018 #63
Well there ya' go... Amsterdammer Feb 2018 #67
My response begins with 'F' and ends with 'u.' PatrickforO Feb 2018 #66
We have to replace the money that the NRA uses to support candidates ehrnst Feb 2018 #68
Im going out to vote for Burns today. Good for him for not letting the NRA intimidate him. lkinwi Feb 2018 #69
Great laserhaas Feb 2018 #70

genxlib

(5,506 posts)
1. I dream of a day
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:44 AM
Feb 2018

When an NRA endorsement is the kiss of death for a candidate.

It should already be but hoprfully that time will come for real.

hueymahl

(2,415 posts)
59. ???
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:39 PM
Feb 2018

Ever heard of a blue ink ban. In fact, I’m looking at two letters right now with blue ink signatures and both are computer generated.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
61. A legal standard is "Blue ink is original"
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 05:19 PM
Feb 2018

If they are "copying" an item and generating a "colored ink" copy ....it is a sin (like plagiarizing)

A con job!

Chiyo-chichi

(3,563 posts)
55. It is a form letter. "Dear Wisconsin Judicial Candidate."
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:29 PM
Feb 2018

They're either too stupid or too lazy to do a mail merge.
Which is it, NRA?
Are you too stupid to do a mail merge or too lazy to do a mail merge?
Please respond immediately. Failure to do so will be interpreted as outright hostility.

Plus, the guy is running for Wisconsin Supreme Court. "Dear Wisconsin Judicial Candidate" is just rude.

Chiyo-chichi

(3,563 posts)
58. I knew you did.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:35 PM
Feb 2018

I was just agreeing w/you... and really it is a stupid and lazy letter on so many levels.

 

MariaCSR

(642 posts)
5. I used to work for a conservative Republican organization
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:50 AM
Feb 2018

That collected campaign donations to GOP candidates.

One day, I was asked to key in some postcards from NRA supporters...and let me tell you....

The sentiments on those cards makes that letter up there look like Hallmark....

Open, hostile threats...."PROTECT OUR 2ND AMENDMENT OR ELSE" stuff like that....

It was bat shit crazy the things I read on those cards...

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
17. Sounds like terrorism
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:04 AM
Feb 2018

using threats of violence,
against civilians,
in pursuit of a political agenda.

Those people should be arrested and lose their 2nd amendment rights.

justhanginon

(3,287 posts)
25. That is what the NRA and most of its rabid supporters
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:16 PM
Feb 2018

are all about these days. Intimidation is the name of the game hence all the open carry supporters. Look at me, I've got a boom boom strapped to my hip so I am more powerful than you they are saying.

IronLionZion

(45,256 posts)
29. This latest shooting proves we have to take violent threats seriously
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:24 PM
Feb 2018

and we should use anti-terrorism laws against these people.

 

MariaCSR

(642 posts)
71. Yep, those cards scared the hell out of me
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 05:48 PM
Feb 2018

I said to myself "man, the MSM isn't talking about this"

Botany

(70,288 posts)
11. I emailed him already and asked if they pay him in rubles?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

My bet is that his email account is already shut down.

Yup! the email is already shut down. Should I try to call him?

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
35. I sent the following
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

to BOTH E-mail addresses shown:


RE: Letter to judicial candidate, Tim Burns.

Scott, FUCK YOU and the fucking bloodthirsty organization that you draw your blood money salary from. Do humanity a favor - lube and slide the business end of an automatic up your "shithole" (yes, I understand that in your case it might not be easy to discern which end of your abdomen your shithole is located on) and - once inserted - actuate the trigger. The result will improve our collective gene pool AND give at least one good reason for your ilk to have a gun handy when your true worth to this planet finally dawns on you.

Disrespectfully,

PS: Your humanity rating scores a solid WTF?


Takket

(21,424 posts)
12. Too bad it is illegal
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:16 AM
Feb 2018

To send piles of shit through the mail. Since that is the response this deserves.

 

laserhaas

(7,805 posts)
43. We could rent a tractor and deliver a pile
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:19 PM
Feb 2018

With bags of sunflower seeds

And instructions to grow a soul

Louis1895

(768 posts)
13. Did you notice the bullet holes at the bottom of the letter?
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 10:54 AM
Feb 2018

The bullet holes allow the social media icons to be seen.

Wounded Bear

(58,437 posts)
16. "Dear NRA, and Mister Jones...
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:04 AM
Feb 2018

Obviously, you have confused me with someone who gives a fuck.

I will execute my duties based on constitutional law, not veiled threats from special interests.

Thank you for your thought.

ps: copies of your letter and my response have been forwarded to the FBI. All further correspondence will be treated the same.

turbinetree

(24,632 posts)
18. Sincerely....................GO FUCK yourself NRA
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:07 AM
Feb 2018

It is a against the law to intimidate people, no matter what state you live in, and if you do it across state lines, that is a federal issue.

<Maybe Scott Jones should be answering some questions about this "letter" of intimidation>



Hey Scott Jones, ....................


I just donated to Tim Burns...................... ............... to help with his canvassing


https://burnsforwisconsin.com/


February 20, 2018 cannot get here fast enough

Pacifist Patriot

(24,647 posts)
21. My campaign is wrestling with this.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:30 AM
Feb 2018

I got early advice from previous candidates who told me I don't have to respond to every interest group who sends me a questionnaire...with the exception of the NRA. I absolutely HAD to answer that one.

My instinct tells me to trash the questionnaire and put out a public statement explaining why I am not dignifying them with a response and could not possibly care less what rating they may choose to give me. On the other hand, I have no problem owning the inevitable F rating like a boss either.

I completely agree this needs to turn on its head, and an A rating should be politically toxic.

My likely opponent, he's facing a primary but extremely likely to win, has 100% favorable with the NRA.

leftstreet

(36,078 posts)
54. Wow
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:28 PM
Feb 2018

That sucks. Strange it's the ONLY questionnaire you were advised to fill out. Too bad pols haven't just thrown them out and taken their 'f'

Can you contact the student groups currently speaking out in FL? Can you make the DC march on March 24? Just wondering if there's ANY way you can let people know, as a candidate, you don't want or need a favorable rating from the NRA

Pacifist Patriot

(24,647 posts)
60. I cannot get to DC, but we are having a march here on March 24th as well.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 04:53 PM
Feb 2018

I'll be at that! I am going to take that opportunity to issue a press release regarding my stance.

 

woundedkarma

(498 posts)
22. If we ever get our country back...
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:34 AM
Feb 2018

The NRA and the drug companies should both be investigated in the same way that Trump-russia is being investigated.

They would be found at fault for thousands, maybe millions of deaths like the cigarette companies.

Then the people behind those companies need to be put on trial for murder.

At the very least, both industries are guilty of massive amounts of bribery.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
23. they do that all day on 1500 radio stations to anyone who thinks about gun control
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 11:49 AM
Feb 2018

and i wouldn't be surprised if limbaugh names some of those florida kids, knowing it will get them and their families harassed

it's different than seeing them on the tube - he'll weave it into an accusation that will set off the trumpheads

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
30. His position should be that Wayne LaPierre and all the staff at NRA need to be......SHOT
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 12:28 PM
Feb 2018

For conspiring with the enemy in time of war, along with the entire hierarchy of the POT, Party Of Trump, the Koch brothers, the entire on air staff of Foxnews, and any of the various and sundry liars, creeps, and weasels who subvert democracy with every breath they take

Make no mistake, stealing an election is an act of WAR, no less than was Pearl Harbor

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
72. Its the
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:00 PM
Feb 2018

Law

I am a strict constructionist when it comes to treason

That’s how it works for mostf the POT, especially when it comes unlimited gun rights

Just ask race baiting gunshot victim Steve Scalise

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
34. My position as a judicial candidate (which I am not) is:
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 01:10 PM
Feb 2018

As a judge, on all issues that come before is:

I swear to uphold the laws of the state of Wisconsin,
I swear to uphold the Constitution of the state of Wisconsin
I swear to uphold the Constitution of the United States of America.

Other than that it would be unethical and unprofessional to speculate on how I might rule on any particular case that might come before me.

Respectfully,

Judicial candidate.

TomSlick

(11,032 posts)
63. Judicial candidates generally may not (or at least ought not) respond to such letters.
Mon Feb 19, 2018, 09:57 PM
Feb 2018

It didn't take long to find the Wisconsin Code of Judicial Conduct rule:

SCR 60.06(3)(b)
A judge, judge-elect, or candidate for judicial office shall not make or permit or authorize others to make on his or her behalf, with respect to cases, controversies, or issues that are likely to come before the court, pledges, promises, or commitments that are inconsistent with the impartial performance of the adjudicative duties of the office.

It would really suck to be running for a judicial office and have a judicial ethics complaint made against you.

Amsterdammer

(130 posts)
67. Well there ya' go...
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 02:36 AM
Feb 2018

If this candidate were to respond to the requested NRA questionnaire, that would be the perfect response...instead of receiving a "?" for a score, what might they give this candidate? Maybe a "huh? say what? Martha, this man's usin' some lawyer- soundin' stuff here!"

PatrickforO

(14,514 posts)
66. My response begins with 'F' and ends with 'u.'
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 12:56 AM
Feb 2018

Let them send a postcard to their members. Let's drown the right-wingers at the ballot box.

 

ehrnst

(32,640 posts)
68. We have to replace the money that the NRA uses to support candidates
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 08:45 AM
Feb 2018

It's not just that they won't give money to a candidate who supports sensible gun safety laws, the NRA will pour money into a candidate that will challenge them.

lkinwi

(1,477 posts)
69. Im going out to vote for Burns today. Good for him for not letting the NRA intimidate him.
Tue Feb 20, 2018, 09:17 AM
Feb 2018

Screnock is the Walker/Koch toadie.

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