Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:24 PM
marylandblue (12,330 posts)
Some sleeper information in today's indictment
It wasn't just 13 people - According to the indictment, the Internet Research Agency employed HUNDREDS of people and had a budget of MILLIONS of dollars.
Mueller found the money - Concord Management had direct ties to the Russian government, funded this and other operations against the US, and identified 14 bank accounts that the money passed through. Meaning he has detailed financial information from banks doing business in Russia. Mueller has detailed information on internal organization operations - he must have informants in Russia who are giving him good information. Mueller has personal emails from these people - We have probably hacked a lot of relevant email accounts.
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marylandblue | Feb 2018 | OP |
dalton99a | Feb 2018 | #1 | |
Ilsa | Feb 2018 | #22 | |
OhNo-Really | Feb 2018 | #23 | |
Stallion | Feb 2018 | #2 | |
marylandblue | Feb 2018 | #4 | |
Auggie | Feb 2018 | #8 | |
uponit7771 | Feb 2018 | #3 | |
Sophia4 | Feb 2018 | #9 | |
liberalla | Feb 2018 | #19 | |
infullview | Feb 2018 | #5 | |
marylandblue | Feb 2018 | #7 | |
GulfCoast66 | Feb 2018 | #6 | |
fierywoman | Feb 2018 | #10 | |
WhiteTara | Feb 2018 | #18 | |
fierywoman | Feb 2018 | #20 | |
WhiteTara | Feb 2018 | #21 | |
Post removed | Feb 2018 | #11 | |
kentuck | Feb 2018 | #12 | |
OhNo-Really | Feb 2018 | #24 | |
orangecrush | Feb 2018 | #13 | |
flibbitygiblets | Feb 2018 | #14 | |
orangecrush | Feb 2018 | #15 | |
Honeycombe8 | Feb 2018 | #16 | |
George II | Feb 2018 | #17 |
Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:26 PM
dalton99a (58,297 posts)
1. 2015 NYT article:
Last edited Sat Feb 17, 2018, 09:26 AM - Edit history (2) https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/07/magazine/the-agency.html
The Agency From a nondescript office building in St. Petersburg, Russia, an army of well-paid “trolls” has tried to wreak havoc all around the Internet — and in real-life American communities. By ADRIAN CHEN | JUNE 2, 2015 Around 8:30 a.m. on Sept. 11 last year, Duval Arthur, director of the Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness for St. Mary Parish, Louisiana, got a call from a resident who had just received a disturbing text message. “Toxic fume hazard warning in this area until 1:30 PM,” the message read. “Take Shelter. Check Local Media and columbiachemical.com.”
St. Mary Parish is home to many processing plants for chemicals and natural gas, and keeping track of dangerous accidents at those plants is Arthur’s job. But he hadn’t heard of any chemical release that morning. In fact, he hadn’t even heard of Columbia Chemical. St. Mary Parish had a Columbian Chemicals plant, which made carbon black, a petroleum product used in rubber and plastics. But he’d heard nothing from them that morning, either. Soon, two other residents called and reported the same text message. Arthur was worried: Had one of his employees sent out an alert without telling him? If Arthur had checked Twitter, he might have become much more worried. Hundreds of Twitter accounts were documenting a disaster right down the road. “A powerful explosion heard from miles away happened at a chemical plant in Centerville, Louisiana #ColumbianChemicals,” a man named Jon Merritt tweeted. The #ColumbianChemicals hashtag was full of eyewitness accounts of the horror in Centerville. @AnnRussela shared an image of flames engulfing the plant. @Ksarah12 posted a video of surveillance footage from a local gas station, capturing the flash of the explosion. Others shared a video in which thick black smoke rose in the distance. Dozens of journalists, media outlets and politicians, from Louisiana to New York City, found their Twitter accounts inundated with messages about the disaster. “Heather, I’m sure that the explosion at the #ColumbianChemicals is really dangerous. Louisiana is really screwed now,” a user named @EricTraPPP tweeted at the New Orleans Times-Picayune reporter Heather Nolan. Another posted a screenshot of CNN’s home page, showing that the story had already made national news. ISIS had claimed credit for the attack, according to one YouTube video; in it, a man showed his TV screen, tuned to an Arabic news channel, on which masked ISIS fighters delivered a speech next to looping footage of an explosion. A woman named Anna McClaren (@zpokodon9) tweeted at Karl Rove: “Karl, Is this really ISIS who is responsible for #ColumbianChemicals? Tell @Obama that we should bomb Iraq!” But anyone who took the trouble to check CNN.com would have found no news of a spectacular Sept. 11 attack by ISIS. It was all fake: the screenshot, the videos, the photographs. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- And in 2014 - a year before the NYT expose: https://toinformistoinfluence.com/2014/06/02/russian-internet-research-agency-hosts-paid-commentors/ Russian Internet Research Agency hosts Paid Commentors June 2, 2014 | Joel Harding For months I have seen the results of what appears to be paid commentors, supported by or paid by Russia. The Russian paid commenters appear to have a list of talking points, which seem to change about once a week.
I could not prove, however, that there were actually paid commentors, paid by Russia. We have seen evidence of their talking points, I even blogged about it, here. In countless discussion groups, I have been accused, by Russians (or pro-Russians) of being a paid commenter. On Facebook, especially, pro-Russian commenters accused me of being a paid commenter for the US. The first time I was accused of that I had to sit back and contemplate what they were saying. I know for certain that the US does not have such ‘paid commenters’, I am not a paid commenter and I do not work for the US Government. I know that some Combatant Commanders have advertised for that capability, to create 50 or more false identities per person, but that would still limit the number of people commenting on behalf of the US – because of the limited number of people actually working in these US programs – even with defense contractors. I often wonder how large the Russians believe our Combatant Commanders headquarters and staff really are. I’ve been at multiple Combatant Commanders (then called CINCs), and they’re big, but when it comes to working in Information Operations, the staff is very small. In this era of cutbacks, I’m sure the staffs are even smaller. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Full searchable text of the indictment: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/02/rosenstein-mueller-indictment-russia/553601/ |
Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:16 PM
Ilsa (57,340 posts)
22. I have had that page bookmarked since 2015.
Shared it with lots of people so they could see how serious the threat was.
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Response to dalton99a (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:35 PM
OhNo-Really (3,507 posts)
23. is this the same org that we had cameras in?
remember that report last week? The Scandanavian country that gave us their intel....
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:29 PM
Stallion (5,849 posts)
2. I Believe It said an ANNUAL Budget of MillionS of dollars
just read Indictment before coming on here
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Response to Stallion (Reply #2)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:34 PM
marylandblue (12,330 posts)
4. Yes, it does say that.
Also says the Concord company was spending $1.25 million per month by September 2016.
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Response to marylandblue (Reply #4)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:50 PM
Auggie (26,249 posts)
8. Wonder how much went to Facebook overall?
Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 03:31 PM
uponit7771 (73,891 posts)
3. Similar to what Nance has said !! That it sounds like the FBI has some inside info into
... Russia's operations.
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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:03 PM
Sophia4 (3,515 posts)
9. Was a Russian extradited from his vacation in Spain recently? Could be completely unrelated.
U.S. prosecutors said Peter Levashov, 37, ran the Kelihos botnet, a network of more than 100,000 infected devices used by cyber criminals to distribute viruses, ransomware, phishing emails and other spam attacks. Levashov denies the charges in an eight-count indictment handed down by a federal grand jury in Connecticut in April. Levashov, who fought the extradition, told Spain’s High Court in September that he had worked for Russian President Vladimir Putin’s United Russia party for the last 10 years, Russia’s RIA news agency reported. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-levashov/russian-accused-of-hacking-extradited-to-u-s-from-spain-idUSKBN1FM2RG |
Response to uponit7771 (Reply #3)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:27 PM
liberalla (5,981 posts)
19. My first thought too - this is what Nance said... people physically there on the inside. YES!
I just hope they're being kept safe somewhere so they can keep breathing.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:24 PM
infullview (605 posts)
5. I was also thinking he outed thier names in the indictment for a reason
Is it possible other countries who are under attack by these same people will feel inclined to seek justice?
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Response to infullview (Reply #5)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:33 PM
marylandblue (12,330 posts)
7. Well I don't think you can indict an anonymous person, so he had to name them
But I think this indictment shows that he knows everything that happened in Russia - who, what, when, where and why. If I were involved in this conspiracy, I'd cut a deal now. If I were a Russian involved in it, I'd never leave Russia again.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 04:31 PM
GulfCoast66 (10,513 posts)
6. Maybe we now know why the NRA has been so quiet.
Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:07 PM
fierywoman (5,452 posts)
10. is anyone else here giggling like mad upon reading this stuff?
Response to fierywoman (Reply #10)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 07:14 PM
WhiteTara (26,922 posts)
18. None of my reactions are laughing
I'm of course glad to validated for knowing that Trump is a Traitor, but I weep for my country.
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Response to WhiteTara (Reply #18)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:11 PM
fierywoman (5,452 posts)
20. For sure, weeping for our country, but I'm laughing because (it seems)
stuff is going to start to stick to him going forward.
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Response to fierywoman (Reply #20)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 08:14 PM
WhiteTara (26,922 posts)
21. ah, schadenfreude
Response to marylandblue (Original post)
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:08 PM
kentuck (100,657 posts)
12. The Internet Research Agency was very close to Vladimir Putin...
...was what a former Russian Ambassador, McFall, said on Nicolle's show.
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Response to kentuck (Reply #12)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 09:42 PM
OhNo-Really (3,507 posts)
24. Is this indictment the stuff the Danes shared with us
....Danish spies hacked into the networks of Russian hackers and shared the information with the United States, and eventually providing proof that Russia is responsible for hacking into the Democratic Party in 2016.....
https://www.metro.us/news/the-big-stories/danish-spies-shared-intel-russian-cozy-bear |
Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:09 PM
orangecrush (10,783 posts)
13. This is important
The cons are trying to spin the indictments as vindicating Trump.
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Response to orangecrush (Reply #13)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 05:51 PM
flibbitygiblets (6,378 posts)
14. They can't spin away that trump said this was all fake news for the past 2 years.
Suddenly now it's "Vindication!"? Sure, feel free to keep denying. What could ever go wrong?
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Response to flibbitygiblets (Reply #14)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:02 PM
orangecrush (10,783 posts)
15. Mueller is playing chess
Trump is playing with himself.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:15 PM
Honeycombe8 (37,648 posts)
16. This is fascinating. Can't wait to see the movie to see how this all ends!
I keep thinking about a future movie on all this. Can't help it. I hope it ends well for the country. Which is to say, the anti-democracy traitors get locked up.
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Response to marylandblue (Original post)
Fri Feb 16, 2018, 06:34 PM
George II (60,033 posts)
17. They're discussing this on CNN right now - Laura Coates (an ex-prosecutor) just said to the effect:
"this was an inside job, the FBI had had undercover people working from the inside."
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