CONFIRMED:Turkey Running Proxy-Invasion of Syria + In Syria, Obama Fights Bush's Wars

[stockholmer]

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Admits hosting foreign fighters seeking to enter Syria, trucks in weapons to rearm terrorist groups.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.se/2012/07/confirmed-turkey-running-proxy-invasion.html

The Washington Post has just published an article with the very misleading titled, "Turkey a hub for Syria revolution as illegal border crossing points abound," in which it describes "Salafi Muslims," who have "come to offer help from the countries of the Persian Gulf region" arming and joining the so-called "Free Syrian Army." The article also claims "weapons are ferried into Syria, delivered by Turkish military trucks and picked up by fighters on the other side in the dead of night." A more apt title would be, "Turkey hosts invading Saudi and Qatari mercenary army."

This confirms earlier reports featured in the New York Times and the Washington Post, that not only are the Gulf States of Saudi Arabia and Qatar funding and arming militants via Turkey, but that the US is coordinating the logistical aspects of the operation as well. Likewise, CNN has attempted to spin concessions made by its own Ivan Watson, traveling with sectarian extremists into Syria, where it was admitted:

Meanwhile, residents of the village where the Syrian Falcons were headquartered said there were fighters of several North African nationalities also serving with the brigade's ranks. A volunteer Libyan fighter has also told CNN he intends to travel from Turkey to Syria within days to add a "platoon" of Libyan fighters to armed movement.

CNN has now added:

On Wednesday, CNN’s crew met a Libyan fighter who had crossed into Syria from Turkey with four other Libyans. The fighter wore full camouflage and was carrying a Kalashnikov rifle. He said more Libyan fighters were on the way. The foreign fighters, some of them are clearly drawn because they see this as … a jihad. So this is a magnet for jihadists who see this as a fight for Sunni Muslims.

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Photo: The face of Libya's "revolution" was literally Al Qaeda. Abdul Hakim Belhaj, commander of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) listed by the US State Department as a "Foreign Terrorists Organization," was armed and backed by NATO (including the US) in his efforts to topple the government of Libya. Belhaj more recently pledged (NATO) weapons, cash, and Libyan militants to the "Free Syrian Army."

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In Syria, Obama Fights Bush's Wars: Syrian Opposition Signs Pro-War Neo-Con Letter to Obama.

http://landdestroyer.blogspot.se/2012/07/in-syria-obama-fights-bushs-wars.html

Neo-Conservatives have "called on" US President Barack Obama to assist in the establishment of "safe zones" inside of Syria in a recent letter published by the "Foreign Policy Initiative" (FPI) and the "Foundation for the Defense of Democracies" (FDD). Both faux-institutions are corporate, foundation, and government funded clearinghouses, extensions of larger think-tanks like the American Enterprise Institute, for corporate-financier driven agendas, more specifically, wars. They serve the sole purpose of manufacturing consensus behind an agenda that has little or no support within the general public.

The letter covered by Foreign Policy's article, "Conservatives call on Obama to establish ‘safe zones’ in Syria]," not only parrots Fortune 500-funded Brookings Institution's report, "Assessing Options for Regime Change," recently repeated almost verbatim by US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, but was signed by co-conspirators in the invasion of Iraq including Elliott Abrams, Karl Rove, Paul Bremer, Robert Joseph, and Douglas Feith, along with advisors to the Mitt Romney, including Eric Edelman, Jamie Fly, Robert Kagan, and Stephen Rademaker, as well as Syrian National Council member, Radwah Ziadeh.Radwah Ziadeh, it should be remembered, is also a "senior fellow" of the US State Department's US Institute for Peace (USIP) which has just revealed it is behind training, coaching, and tutoring Syria's opposition leaders as well as preparing Syria's new constitution, currently being called a, "transition strategy document."

Perhaps the most disturbing aspect of the Neo-Cons' letter is that it essentially calls for a no-fly zone:

We urge you to take immediate steps, in close and continuing consultation with the Congress, to work with regional partners to establish air-patrolled "safe zones" covering already liberated areas within Syria, using military power not only to protect these zones from further aggression by the Assad regime's military and irregular forces, but also to neutralize the threat posed by the Syrian dictatorship's chemical and biological weapons.

Basically an amalgamation of every false pretext the United States has used to wage war upon its enemies in the last 20 years, and the dirty tricks used to inch Americans into another war, the letter reveals who is once again behind US foreign policy, and that warmongering, corporate-financier interests, not humanitarian concerns, seek to spend American blood and treasure in their pursuit of global hegemony.

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[inna]

1. good post, as always - thank you, Stockholmer! nt

[aquart]

2. What sincere and deeply felt bigotry.

Yes, those brown people are ALL our puppets. We control them utterly. They never think for themselves and are incapable of making any kind of plan, let alone carrying it out.

I always appreciate smarmy racism masquerading as insider profundity, don't you?

[dipsydoodle]

3. Yes - thank you Stockholmer for a well composed post

[UnrepentantLiberal]

4. The U.S. government holding the strings

because that guy says so.

[HiPointDem]

5. kr

[Scootaloo]

6. Salafi Muslims coming to "help"

That's a fucking disaster waiting to happen. Yes, that's just what the region fucking needs... A Wahhabist Syria.

Oh, what, WaPo left out that Salafi = Wahhabi?

I do not have enough faces to palm.

[HiPointDem]

7. kr. all these phony revolutions, just part of the global restructuring. ordinary people are just

pawns in their game.

[malaise]

8. I am tempted to write

Duh!!

[leveymg]

9. When this blows up in our faces, again, they'll say, "Who could have seen it coming?"

Repeating the same failed policies and expecting a different outcome. Again.

Insanity.

[Larry Ogg]

11. Repeating the same failed policies and expecting a different outcome.

Wasn't that part of Obama's "vote for me because we need change speech".

[leveymg]

13. It's been observed that America has a permanent foreign policy bureaucracy

Ralph P. Hummel writes in The Bureaucratic Experience (5th edition, 2007), that the problems associated with bureaucracy are getting worse in spite of all efforts exerted by the theorists of quality management, corporate reengineering, and the new public management because it is still “business as usual” for bureaucracies.

He explains that the bureaucrat becomes a mechanistic technician who is detached from her/his humanity, emotions, society, and even her/his individual thinking, describing it as “the bomb that threatens humanity.”

Hummel announces that there is a fundamental conflict between society and bureaucracy and “all attempts to humanize relationships between a bureaucracy and society must therefore considered as suicidal or window-dressing when they come from within bureaucracy itself, and as declaration of war when they originate in society”.

In other words, bureaucracy is blind, deaf, and dumb, and tends to repeat the same mistakes. American foreign policy Mandarins are simply incapable of learning from their own mistakes, and are thus insane. They will likely destroy themselves and what is left of non-bureaucratized democratic features of American society.

[Larry Ogg]

10. The banality of evil…

Just another day in the light as U.S. prodding leads humanity ever closer to self-extinction; no surprises there.

To bad Obama has to play the bipartisan neoconservative war mongering game just to be reelected; no surprises hear.

And we are supposed to believe that this is all done in the name of spreading Democracy; well that just shocks the hell out me. Nope, just kidding.

[SidDithers]

12. Tony Cartalucci?...

OMFG.

Sid

[leveymg]

14. Ok, Sid. What's your issue this time?

Really. Enlighten us, please.

[SidDithers]

16. Tony Cartalucci prominently appears at prisonplanet, globalresearch and infowars...

those are all conspiracy theory sites that regularly get shut down at DU.

He's also featured prominently at Liberty Roundtable.

And, he's a Ron Paul defending asshole.

Do you need more?

Sid

[leveymg]

17. I disagree about globalresearch, and there may be some worthwhile material at the others.

The practice of blacklisting authors because their work has appeared at sites you disagree with is not democratic, with a small d.

As for Ron Paul, that's irrelevant to this subject matter.

If you believe there are falsehoods in the material reprinted or linked to here, please feel free to point that out. Otherwise, it's just your opinion, Sid.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

22. The beauty of a conspiracy theory is that you can

pretty much say anything. It's like an old time religious revival. Your audience isn't looking to challenge you. They just want you to tell it brother.

[leveymg]

24. The beauty of conspiracy theory allegations is that it shifts the burden of evidence

and it's very difficult to overcome the taint created.

I think you're wrong about your underlying assumption -audiences LOVE to challenge you, particularly about unorthodoxies or minority opinions. That usually holds true at DU as well as most fora.

[ProSense]

15. Yeah,

I'm a fan of Ron Paul conspiracy nut cases.

Who Leads the Attack On Ron Paul?
http://landdestroyer.blogspot.com/2011/12/who-leads-attack-on-ron-paul.html

Look at the clown's blogroll:

Infowars.com
Infowars Ireland
Prison Planet

[leveymg]

18. Please see my last response to Sid, above. Same goes for you, ProSense.

If you want to take exception to the material that appears here or is linked to in the OP, please do. Otherwise, you are attempting to blacklist someone because you don't agree with them on other topics.

[ProSense]

19. I will

"If you want to take exception to the material that appears here or is linked to in the OP, please do. "

...do no such thing. I'm not going to chase down the strewn together, cherry-picked quotes emphasized by the editorial comments of a known conspiracy nut for the edification of his fans.

Why not go collect every conspiracy theory on Prison Planet or Free Republic and spend the day asking people to refute them?

I mean, refute this: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021024037

This is an exercise in futility.

Here's my suggestion: Use reputable sources to make your argument. Avoid conspiracy nuts who try to get you to chase your tail.

[bullwinkle428]

20. Oh, Al-Qaeda...we just can't quit you! But be forewarned - we'll be happy to make you our boogeyman

again, when it's convenient!

[ieoeja]

21. So Obama is fighting Bush's war by ... doing what?

The article does not state anywhere what he is doing. It says neo-cons asked him to do a couple of things.

[UnrepentantLiberal]

23. He's facilitating the New World Order as he was ordered to do.

Sheesh.

[Sadge Sun-tastic]

25. And Hillary is Cheney is a dress...

But they look sooo much more attractive, especially those hawt Ds after their names.

Nothing to see here. On with the countdown...

[SidDithers]

26. Locking...

Consensus of the GD Hosts who've expressed an opinion is that this OP doesn't fit the SOP of GD.

Please consider reposting in Creative Speculation.

Sid