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Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:10 PM

Federal judge has blocked President Trump's unlawful order ending DACA -grants nationwide injunction

*BREAKING* A federal judge has blocked President @realDonaldTrump's unlawful order ending the #DACA program and granted our request for a nationwide injunction.















UPDATE TO ADD:

National Immigration Law Center

@NILC_org
BREAKING: Victory for our plaintiffs! A federal court has issued a second order to #ProtectDreamers nationwide. Two federal courts have now determined that @realDonaldTrump's termination of DACA was unlawful.


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Reply Federal judge has blocked President Trump's unlawful order ending DACA -grants nationwide injunction (Original post)
kpete Feb 13 OP
NCTraveler Feb 13 #1
asiliveandbreathe Feb 13 #2
gratuitous Feb 13 #3
pandr32 Feb 14 #30
Iliyah Feb 13 #4
Weed Man Feb 13 #5
procon Feb 13 #6
babylonsister Feb 13 #7
world wide wally Feb 13 #8
barbtries Feb 13 #9
BigmanPigman Feb 13 #10
Fla Dem Feb 13 #11
Igel Feb 13 #20
MichMan Feb 13 #26
tritsofme Feb 13 #27
williesgirl Feb 13 #12
Sophia4 Feb 14 #35
lindysalsagal Feb 13 #13
SunSeeker Feb 13 #14
Cha Feb 13 #17
bluestarone Feb 13 #15
Cha Feb 13 #16
bdamomma Feb 13 #18
renate Feb 13 #19
OnyxSharpie Feb 13 #23
Nitram Feb 13 #21
SWBTATTReg Feb 13 #22
dchill Feb 13 #24
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Feb 13 #25
Elwood P Dowd Feb 13 #28
Stardust1 Feb 14 #29
librechik Feb 14 #31
40RatRod Feb 14 #32
triron Feb 14 #33
niyad Feb 14 #34

Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:17 PM

1. K&R

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:17 PM

2. Oh boy - chickens running around headless in the WH - who draws the short straw to tell

the POS...wait for it...3-2-1...

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:20 PM

3. There's some good news for a change

I wonder if this will put a kink in the ICE raids, and if we'll stop locking up people who haven't committed a criminal offense?

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #3)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 10:57 AM

30. Interesting

That would be wonderful and hopefully would end the push to elevate ICE to a sort of IA. That is some scary sh*t!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:21 PM

4. Wonderful news

alas tho, rush to the USA Supreme Court happening probably now, per our racist DOJ leader head case, Sessions.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:21 PM

5. Needs to be made permanent injunction

and Trump ordered for mental evaluation by fifty independent neurologists who'll come up with the same results: TRUMP IS FUCKING NUTS!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:24 PM

6. Thank you NY AG, Eric Schneiderman!





Eric Schneiderman



#BREAKING: Our coalition of 17 AGs just won a preliminary injunction blocking @POTUSís discriminatory attempt to end #DACA and deport DREAMers.



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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:32 PM

7. Fantastic!!! nt

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:34 PM

8. I hope our laws can withstand the onslaught coming from the Incontinent Ballistic Baldspot

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:50 PM

9. that's fabulous.

stephen miller must be losing his hair.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:44 PM

10. Way to go Schneiderman!


Earlier today the moron said that the Dems didn't really want to negotiate a serious immigration deal then he later said that he was only kidding. Ha, ha.


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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:08 PM

11. Just to understand...A preliminary injunction just temporarily blocks Trumps attempt to end DACA?

Not a final judgement? What happens now?

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #11)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:40 PM

20. There are hearings as to the legality of the way he rescinded it.

It's not saying DACA is the law. It's saying that the process he used to rescind the memo didn't follow the required publicize proposal, review it, take comments, etc. APA stuff.

It's also not saying that DACA is legal. And previously it was pointed out that it doesn't matter if the promulgation of the DACA memo also failed to follow the APA requirements--they sort of did that after the ball was rolling, but once established however irregularly it must be dealt with as a fact on the ground.

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Response to Igel (Reply #20)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:29 PM

26. Sounds like they are saying DACA can't now be rescinded even if congress doesn't do anything ?

Even though DACA was never passed into law in the first place, if it can't be rescinded, doesn't that essentially make it a law?

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Response to MichMan (Reply #26)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:53 PM

27. No, even if the states prevail in court, it would only delay Trump's action.

My understanding is that a best case scenario outcome would be that Trump is required to follow the APA and have a notice and comment period before withdrawing DACA. Even this outcome is questionable, Obama's position was that DACA or DAPA did not fall under the APA, but some court ruling suggested he may have been forced to comply.

So while the turnabout is rather ironic, whether Trump can be forced to comply with the APA in withdrawing an order that was not issued under it is question well above my pay scale.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:10 PM

12. Next Trump action: defund all courts!

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Response to williesgirl (Reply #12)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:47 PM

35. The federal courts could suffer funding cuts, but that would leave state

courts.

Without federal courts, no immigration laws could be enforced. That would mean that if an immigrant, let's say for example, an immigrant who entered our country legally, committed a crime, the immigration court would not be there to deport him or her. That person might end up in a state prison rather than be sent out of the country.

So defunding or cutting the funding for federal courts would not help Trump.

Congress needs to enact a DACA law, an immigration law.

It is very difficult to live in a country if you don't know the language of that country well. The DACA applicants are American in terms of language and culture. It would be difficult for them to go to the countries in which they were born.

I knew my great-grandfather when he was very old. He went as a 12-year-old with his father to fight in the Civil War for the Union. He came to this country as a child. No one knew that until he died and we found his Taufschein, which is German for his German baptismal certificate. He was not born in this country. He was brought in by his parents. Today we would consider him an "illegal" because he apparently did not go through immigration procedures.

Our immigration procedures were not always as clear as they are today. Many of US would not be here if our ancestors had been so rigorously categorized and questioned before they entered the US.

I side with the DACA immigrants as long as they do not commit the crimes for which immigrants are deported.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:11 PM

13. Schneiderman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wooo hooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:16 PM

14. The blue state AGs are saving us on so many fronts.

True patriots.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #14)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:24 PM

17. So Wonderfully Heartwarming!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:17 PM

15. AWESOME AWESOME

so can some that were deported recently COME BACK???? I'm hoping so

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:22 PM

16. Wow! Make it hold!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:25 PM

18. Good nail

trumps ass to the wall or is it Stephen Miller???

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:32 PM

19. this seems like enormous news

I don't see it on cnn.com or msnbc.com... am I missing something?

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Response to renate (Reply #19)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:38 PM

23. That was sarcasm, right?

Itís so hard to tell these days.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:52 PM

21. YES!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:14 PM

22. Good news somewhat for our DACA folks...

tRUMP seems to think he has unlimited power. He doesn't. Period.

Now to legislate a durable and lasting solution to this situation, and quit using these kids and their families as hostages.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:52 PM

24. Damn Democrat judges! They just ruined another...

Ayn Rand Society weenie roast! It's un-Murican!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:18 PM

25. Uh-oh! Better brace yourselves, kids. Time for another Trump Tweet Storm.

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Response to LastLiberal in PalmSprings (Reply #25)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 11:55 PM

28. Trump is busy tonight helping Hannity by searching the White House

for sperm tracks.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 08:19 AM

29. I really hope

I hope this saved some dreamers, at least for now.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 11:23 AM

31. huh--I have not heard this anywhere.. I guess the weather must be "stormy"

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Response to librechik (Reply #31)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 12:02 PM

32. I can't find anything on this either.

I would think it would be headlines.

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 12:18 PM

33. Far out!

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Response to kpete (Original post)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 01:23 PM

34. k and r

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