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Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:51 AM

A shadowy Russian tried to lure US officials into falling for 'kompromat' on Trump

(this is a different take on this story than the NYTimes or Intercept versions)


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Right out of the Russian counterintelligence playbook
The interactions carry all the signs of a classic Russian intelligence operation, said Rick Smith, a former FBI counterintelligence agent who served at the bureau for 25 years. He added that one should "count on" the notion that the FSB and SVR Russia's primary foreign espionage agency were directly involved.

Joseph Pelcher, a former FBI agent who was stationed in Russia and specialized in organized crime, echoed that point.

The Russians' modus operandi, he said, was to offer adversaries "what they want and then give them what you really want them to have. If you can sow discord between the intelligence agencies and whatever administration is in power, then you've done your job."

Because of their underlying value, Americans attempted to move forward with a deal to re-acquire the stolen cyberweapons multiple times last year. But after several meetings between October and December of 2017, during which the businessman only handed over the alleged kompromat on Trump and not the hacking tools, US officials cut off the deal and warned him to go back to Russia and never return, the report said.

The Russian appeared to be pulling from two related tactics in a counterintelligence playbook the Kremlin often favors. One was to embark on a disinformation campaign to stoke discord about the Steele dossier and, to a broader extent, the Russia investigation as a whole. The other was to dangle seemingly explosive information about the president to gauge whether US officials took the bait.

The latter tactic, sources told The Times, led American spies brokering the deal to believe Russia was working to pit the US intelligence community against a president who has accused top officials of conspiring against him.

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Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:53 AM

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'Part of the business'

It's not the first time Russia has offered compromising information on a contender to gain a foothold in US politics. The White House was thrown into a frenzy last summer when it emerged that former campaign chairman Paul Manafort, senior adviser Jared Kushner, and Trump's eldest son Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower in June 2016 who had promised dirt on then Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

The offer was extended as "part of Russia and its government's support for Mr. Trump," and appeared to be an attempt to push for the repeal of the 2012 Magnitsky Act, which sanctioned wealthy Russians accused of human-rights abuses.

Former CIA clandestine services officer John Sipher said that despite its end result, the US's participation in the deal to recover the stolen cyberweapons was not unusual and that the US would have had to "engage when there is an offer of such potentially interesting information."

"In these cases, the CIA is well aware that it might be a scam but needs to play it out in case it is real," he said. "If it appears to be Russian deception, it is important to develop as much information as possible in order to determine what they might be up to. These kinds of things often appear awkward but it is part of the business."

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Both the Times and The Intercept noted, however, that CIA officials were involved in aiding the operation from the agency's Berlin office last April.

Reached for comment, a CIA official said, "The people swindled here were James Risen and Matt Rosenberg," who are the authors of the Intercept and Times stories, respectively. "The fictional story that CIA was bilked out of $100,000 is patently false."

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