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Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:58 AM

Michelle and Barack's Official Portraits Unveiled




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Reply Michelle and Barack's Official Portraits Unveiled (Original post)
mobeau69 Feb 2018 OP
Me. Feb 2018 #1
Chemisse Feb 2018 #15
CTyankee Feb 2018 #23
Me. Feb 2018 #26
Sophia4 Feb 2018 #37
niyad Feb 2018 #62
4139 Feb 2018 #32
tblue37 Feb 2018 #89
Hoyt Feb 2018 #2
Iliyah Feb 2018 #3
NightWatcher Feb 2018 #4
irisblue Feb 2018 #6
NCTraveler Feb 2018 #17
dalton99a Feb 2018 #18
ailsagirl Feb 2018 #24
Wwcd Feb 2018 #27
Sophia4 Feb 2018 #36
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Owl Feb 2018 #67
smirkymonkey Feb 2018 #79
doc03 Feb 2018 #87
Cha Feb 2018 #92
SharonClark Feb 2018 #5
brush Feb 2018 #10
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brush Feb 2018 #44
lancelyons Feb 2018 #49
brush Feb 2018 #50
tenderfoot Feb 2018 #51
hlthe2b Feb 2018 #7
Hortensis Feb 2018 #20
pnwest Feb 2018 #8
BumRushDaShow Feb 2018 #11
mobeau69 Feb 2018 #63
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LAS14 Feb 2018 #9
spooky3 Feb 2018 #12
LisaM Feb 2018 #57
tavernier Feb 2018 #13
lunasun Feb 2018 #28
Skidmore Feb 2018 #14
LAS14 Feb 2018 #45
NCTraveler Feb 2018 #16
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NurseJackie Feb 2018 #21
cilla4progress Feb 2018 #22
Runningdawg Feb 2018 #25
ancianita Feb 2018 #29
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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:00 PM

1. He Looks Like Him

she does not...imho

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:20 PM

15. That was my immediate impression too.

Still, they are both very nice.

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:29 PM

23. But the artist did a good job of capturing her long, bare arms...

remember the howling from repukes about Michelle wearing sleeveless tops?

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:02 PM

26. I Do

and I like the skirt but as said down thread this is supposed to be a portrait and I'm sorry the artist didn't capture Michelle because I think she's beautiful.

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Response to Me. (Reply #26)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:31 PM

37. I agree with "You."

 

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Response to CTyankee (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:26 PM

62. that was my thought as well. you notice that none of them scream about mel's bare arms.

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:18 PM

32. Looks like him in ten years...

To me it seems the artist aged him

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Response to Me. (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:59 PM

89. This. nt

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:01 PM

2. The portraits are different from the usual, but so were the Obamas. I like them.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:01 PM

3. Love the portraits!

BHO in an garden of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:02 PM

4. Eh, I guess I'm unsophisticated. It's not my favs.

But damn, I miss those two.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:05 PM

6. Nice nice photo of them.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:22 PM

17. Great photo of them. nt.

 

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:24 PM

18. +1

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:50 PM

24. Beautiful- perfect!

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:02 PM

27. This one. This is who they are. Grace & kindness..

 

Its in their eyes , their bond & their soul.


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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:31 PM

36. I really, really like this photo.

 

It exudes warmth and caring -- as do the Obamas.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:33 PM

64. +10000000

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:36 PM

67. Beautiful!

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:58 PM

79. That is a great photo of them!

I would do anything to have them back!

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:56 PM

87. Now something like this would be a beautiful portrait. But the official

portrait is awful, what on earth were they thinking. I am sorry but I think that one is beneath the dignity of a president.
I don't think some artistic statement is appropriate as an official presidential portrait.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 07:08 PM

92. They're such cuties.. make

me cry

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:03 PM

5. Bad portrait of Michelle - it doesn't even look like her.

These portraits are for the National Portrait Gallery, not MOMA.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:12 PM

10. It's non-traditional, as were the Obamas. I like it. Art evolves, it doesn't have to stay the same.

Both portraits are in the style of the artists' who painted them and who the Obamas chose to do their portraits.

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Response to brush (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:33 PM

39. Non-traditional?!?!


Let's check it out.

Loving close family living together:
O) Check
T) Loving? Close? Living togther: not much.

Respected government institutions such as FBI, EPA & CIA:
O) Check
T) Non-traditional bashing & destruction of them.

Respect for women
O) Check
T) Sexual abuser, cheats, disbelieves women

Respect for flag & anthem
O) Check
T) Doesn't know words, sits during

Hard-working, studies hard
O) Check
T) Won't read more than 1 page, lots of rest/TV/golf in schedule

Diplomatic
O) Check
T) Definition of undiplomatic

I could go on.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:43 PM

44. Ahhh...missed the point entirely. Maybe my use of "non-traditional" was too subtle.

Last edited Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:24 PM - Edit history (1)

Try this: Non-traditional in the sense that President Obama and First Lady Michelle Obama broke the tradition of all the presidents and first ladies who came before them.

THEY ARE PEOPLE OF COLOR.

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Response to brush (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:51 PM

49. I agree... Michelles portrait was a let down and really doesnt look like her.

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Response to lancelyons (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:56 PM

50. The image shown here does not reflect the actual work...poor lighting

Here's a link to the ceremony. It's well work watching and may change your mind about the portraits: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210219992

Both of the Obamas speak, as do the artists. It's well worth watching.

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Response to SharonClark (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:57 PM

51. I like it.

eom

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

7. there are a lot of very good portraits (photographic and otherwise) of each...

These will never rank among my favorite.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #7)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:25 PM

20. Maybe not, but wait until you see them in place.

Those very different approaches to each complement each other wonderfully, and they're going to own their room.

May present a bit of a problem for the gallery, with these making other look fuddy and Republican. I've never visited and have no idea where they will be hung there.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

8. Nope. Very much nope on both of those

portraits - ESPECIALLY Michelle’s.

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Response to pnwest (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:13 PM

11. It is her

without all the makeup that we are used to seeing her wear.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:29 PM

63. Agree. She captured Michelle's eyes perfectly. n/t

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Response to pnwest (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:46 PM

47. If you listen to the revealing ceremony and the speeches of the Obamas and the artists...

your mind might be changed. It's well worth watching when you have time.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210219992. It's well worth watching all the way through.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

9. I liked the Michelle portrait better when I saw the other paintings...

...done by that artist. (See Skinner's post about the portraits). You can see that Michelle probably got what she asked for. But I would like to know more.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:14 PM

12. I dont care for either of them. Neither resembles

The subject strongly, and the dress, while an interesting focus, distracts. The focus should be on the person. The leaves in his portrait look like spreading ivy that shortly will grow over him.

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Response to spooky3 (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:22 PM

57. I have very mixed feelings. I like them (especially hers) as works of art.

In fact, in that regard, I like hers much better. Will they fit in with the previous portraits or represent a change in those portraits? To some extent, that's for posterity to decide, not us. It could be like going to Versailles and seeing room after room after room of similar portraits, and then suddenly art changed, and the portraits started brimming with color and expression, and you wondered why all the earlier portraits were so grim.



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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:16 PM

13. So Michelle was busy that day

but who was it that he painted instead? Not the slightest resemblance.

His is ok but he is far better looking in real life, especially with the million dollar smile.

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Response to tavernier (Reply #13)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:02 PM

28. She painted

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:16 PM

14. I think these portraits are perfect complements to each other,

as are the Obamas. The intricacy of the vines behind him create a tender background behind a powerful man who often goes to a well of human empathy that very few men project. The stark background behind Michelle forces a viewer to to face her power as a person sans the traditional trappings gender and power.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #14)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:46 PM

45. Well stated! Listen to what they and their artists said in remarks. nt

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:21 PM

16. Really dislike the portraits.

 

Simply awful, IMO.

The beauty of art. Some will love them. Others, not so much.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:24 PM

19. Nah.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:27 PM

21. Yuk! Not my cup-o-tea AT ALL!

It reminds me of things I saw at a high-school art contest that was on display at the local shopping mall.

Maybe I'm just too old and too traditional to appreciate trendy pop-art.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:28 PM

22. Cmon...

These are the arrists’ Interpretation of their subject.

I’m good with that.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:57 PM

25. Remember that statue

of Lucille Ball that was sooooo awful it was eventually removed? Yeah. They are that bad.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:08 PM

29. I LOVE all their portraits. The paintings are part of African American Art styles, and

the photo gives everyone the realism they might prefer.

The world will love them, too.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:14 PM

30. Nope.

Don't like either one. They deserve something more Presidential, not these.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:14 PM

31. I'm afraid I don't care for either painting.

While I would be able to identify President Obama from looking at the painting, I wouldn't guess who Michelle was. Maybe it's just not my genre, but they look amateurish. They deserve much, much better.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:20 PM

33. If the Obamas like them...

Then I like them.

If it eats up the Republicans a bit, too... I like them even better.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:28 PM

34. I'd like to see the portraits with a background of the White House.

 

Michelle Obama exudes warmth and love. The blue background makes her look cold and unfriendly. Elegant, yes. But not warm and embracing which is what she is.

And the green background doesn't work. I understand the thinking of the artist about the flowers representing Obama's life, the places that influenced who he is. But the green color does not work for Obama in my opinion.

And Michelle Obama's face seems too narrow for me. I perceive her face as wider and her smile as this radiant warmth.

Just my opinions. I do not like to discourage artists, but I just think the backgrounds are not what they should be.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:28 PM

35. Michelle is unrecognizable, maybe that's why the artist left her so flat, faded

and washed out. It's like when an artist can't quite draw hands correctly they try to hide them to cover up up their mistake.

I still don't know why the artist made the dress the focal point of the painting. It's the largest thing we see, and it's so stark that it grabs all the viewers attention. This might at well be an ad layout for a fashion designer who's trying to promote his newest collection.

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Response to procon (Reply #35)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:48 PM

48. It's important to see other paintings by the artist. That's what influenced Michelle's decision.

A lot of people say "it doesn't look like her." Two things: The artist worked to get at the real Michelle, and Michelle likes it (look at other paintings by the artist). Maybe the real Michelle is a little more sober than the smiling Michelle we so love. AND the artist said she doesn't paint to represent the individual. She paints archetypes. And Michelle knew that when she picked her.

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Response to LAS14 (Reply #48)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:18 PM

56. The artists had one job.

The portraits are NOT about the artists! Epic Fail. The subjects, lest anyone forget, were the Obamas. Yet, in both portraits the artists were so busy inserting themselves into the painting that the Obamas appear to be an afterthought.

I'm sorry, but if the best you can do is C&P these weak paens to defend the artists, that reflects the whole problem. If the artist must be explained, interpreted and translated, then it's not art, it's a homework assignment.

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Response to procon (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:33 PM

65. You're missing one huge point. The Obamas picked the artists because they liked their styles

And why would the Obamas, who both love the works, want traditional, frumpy, stiff portraits?

Here's a link to the ceremony. It's well work watching and may change your mind about the portraits: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210219992

Both of the Obamas speak, as do the artists. It's well worth watching.

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Response to brush (Reply #65)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:53 PM

68. They were polite. That's not an endorsement.

While they may like the artist's work, neither portrait reflects the strong examples of their other efforts.

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Response to procon (Reply #68)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:00 PM

69. You must not have watched the Obamas' speaches on the works. They were effusive in their praise.

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They are both pleased with the works and that's what's important.

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Response to brush (Reply #69)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:05 PM

71. Would you really expect them to say something mean? nt

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Response to procon (Reply #71)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:09 PM

72. What is it with you? Both praised the works. These are the Obamas, not the lying trumps.

They chose the artists because they like their styles.

They say they like the works, which is what matters and I believe them.

Why would you think they were polite/lied?

The museum heads, extremely knowledgeable about art also praised the work.

I like the works also, and for what it's worth, I'm also an artist.

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Response to brush (Reply #72)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:40 PM

75. Oh noes, really? You're an artist, too? That's amazing... no, honest,

I'm always quite impressed when someone tries to claim a sudden expertise on the topic at hand. The Internet makes people so creative!

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Response to procon (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:54 PM

77. Scoff all you want, change the subject too but that doesn't make your opinions of the works...

any less uninformed.

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Response to brush (Reply #77)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:27 PM

84. Your opinion is on a comparable plane. nt

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Response to procon (Reply #84)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:29 PM

85. I agree. I like the portrait but it doesn't matter. What does is Pres. Obama likes it.

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Response to procon (Reply #75)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 04:52 AM

95. You WILL like the paintings!

Your opinion doesn’t count unless you “get” the paintings!

Or something.

But seriously, I’m with you. The Obamas were gracious because that’s just how they handle things. The portraits are not good.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:32 PM

38. one of my deepest hopes

is that Lord Dampnut leaves in such disgrace that no official presidential portrait of him is painted.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:37 PM

40. I do not like the portrait of MO

The salient feature is the dress--it should be her. Her hair, skin, and expression are flat and receding into the background as though not to compete with the dress. Michelle should be luminous and 3-D because she is of a brilliant mind and warm heart. Her clothes should just be complimentary.

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:04 PM

81. I agree, the painting just doesn't do justice to her. She is a larger than life figure and

reduced to a clothing mannequin in this portrait.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:57 PM

91. Well put.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:37 PM

41. Beautiful!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:41 PM

42. They could be better that's for sure BUT

if they are happy with them then i'm happy with them

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:43 PM

43. It's not a great likeness of Barack and I wouldn't even recognize Michelle.

Barack's nose seems too big but that may be because of the extreme lighting and the fact that the artist make his face much bigger in relationship to his head than in life.
Michelle's portrait looks like a generic person, not like her at all. Her head is tiny and her face is totally overshadowed by the body design. Her face is even hard to discern because of the lack of contrast.

It seems to me that portraits should highlight the subject, not the artist.
These are totally all about the artist and not about the subjects at all.

I think they are dreadful as portraits.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:46 PM

46. Reminds of Winston Churchill commenting on his portrait.

“The portrait is a remarkable example of modern art.”

He hated it and his widow later destroyed it. I guess if they’re pleased, okay. Not an art connoisseur but it just doesn’t do anything for me.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:00 PM

52. Look at the size of the hands on that dude!



Seriously, I like the one of Barrack, not so much the one of Michelle. Although, after reading some of the comments here, I can appreciate it a bit more than when I first saw it. It has a kind of an African American folk-art look to it.
Them being happy with it is what is important, I suppose.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:02 PM

53. What "official" portraits?

Where will these hang?
Who authorized them to make them "official"?

Can we get some more info?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #53)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:24 PM

60. These are not the portraits that hang in the WH

They are the portraits for the National Portrait Gallery (that is part of the Smithsonian Institute). The NPG has other Presidential portraits as well. For example, these are Shrub and his wife's portraits -

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:09 PM

54. Beautiful! Nt

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:13 PM

55. His is awesome. Hers doesn't look anything like her nt

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:23 PM

58. I liked Obama but that potrait

is just weird both of them. Sorry

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:24 PM

59. Louvre Pyramid: The Folly that Became a Triumph

"...Then Pei unveiled his design. The international response was swift and it was brutal. Dubbed the “Battle of the Pyramid,” Pei and Mitterrand were roundly chastised, with one 1985 New York Times story rounding up the criticisms: The pyramid was “an architectural joke, an eyesore, an anachronistic intrusion of Egyptian death symbolism in the middle of Paris, and a megalomaniacal folly imposed by Mr. Mitterrand.”

In the early years of the decade-long project, Pei was publicly mocked. “When I first showed the idea to the public, I would say 90 percent were against it,” Pei recounted in a PBS documentary. “The first year and a half was really hell. I couldn’t walk the streets of Paris without people looking at me as if to say: ‘There you go again. What are you doing here? What are you doing to our great Louvre?’ ”

Today, the pyramid at the Louvre rivals the Eiffel Tower (itself a project borne amidst controversy) in defining the Parisian landscape. In honor of the Grand Louvre receiving the Twenty-Five Year Award, we spoke with two of the architects at Pei Cobb Freed who worked on the project: Ian Bader, FAIA, now a partner at the firm who had only just started his career when he began working on the project’s subterranean expansion; and Michael D. Flynn, FAIA, an expert in curtainwall design who had become a partner in 1962 and worked on the pyramid itself.

http://www.architectmagazine.com/awards/aia-honor-awards/louvre-pyramid-the-folly-that-became-a-triumph_o

See also: The Vietnam War Memorial

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:26 PM

61. I have to say I don't like them. If they were an Official Interpretation, fair enough, but they are

Official Portraits, or are supposed to be.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:35 PM

66. ... I'm really impressed by all of the art critics here!



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Response to progressoid (Reply #66)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:03 PM

70. Please stop... if people all had the same likes and dislikes there wouldn't even

be any art. No one is claiming to be an art critic, so why are you just skimming past the discussion and tossing out this inflammatory nonsense? Don't ever think that you're the only person who has an opinion in the face of so many others with opposing views that are no less valid, yeah?

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Response to procon (Reply #70)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:53 PM

76. I didn't skim past anything.

I read the entire thread and THEN I tossed my "inflammatory nonsense" in with the rest of the inflammatory nonsense.

Regarding the validity of "so many others opposing views", I sure they were arrived with a deep understanding of the artists, the subjects' desires, the history of the visual arts, and African American art in particular.

I guess it's OK to criticize the artwork, but not criticize the critics of the artwork.

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Response to progressoid (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:00 PM

80. Why would the opinions of strangers on the internet bother you?

Everyone has likes and dislikes. If your idea of art is poker playing dogs painted on black velvet, I'll defend your right. Thank gawd we all have different opinions or we have to call ourselves Republicans.

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Response to procon (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:12 PM

82. Why does my opinion of the opinion of strangers on the internet bother you?

Why aren't you defending my right to have a different opinion?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:24 PM

83. You do see how this makes you look, yeah? nt

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Response to procon (Reply #83)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:58 PM

88. Sure,

So does that mean you are going to defend my right to express my opinion or not?

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Response to progressoid (Reply #88)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:22 PM

93. Don't place too much importance on the

opinions of people on the internet and maybe you won't need to be so timid that you're pleading with strangers to defend you.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:09 PM

73. If the people depicted in those portraits approve of them,

then I approve of them as well. As I understand it, the artists were the choice of the subjects. I also understand that both Barack and Michelle Obama like their portraits very much.

I cant see how anything else matters, really.

I think they are unique and reflect their subjects and the artists' perception of them well.

Other than that -

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:20 PM

74. President Obama's painting is for the Nat'l Portrait Gallery's Hall of Presidents..

I believe that the 'official' portrait of the Presidents are the ones in the White House.

The ones in the NPG are not necessarily 'formal' looking. For example, JFK's was done by Elaine de Kooning: it's not the portrait best known of him with his arms folded, lost in thought, which is in the White House.



As to these, I like the one of PBO. I don't like the one of Michelle. The ashen/neutral skin color is the artist's signature style though, so she got what she wanted, I guess.

I don't know when any White House portraits will be done/installed. (The GW/Laura Bush ones were unveiled in 2012, in an event hosted by the Obamas.)

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #74)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:18 AM

96. hopefully whenever it happens Trump will be gone

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:56 PM

78. i loved the paintings!

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:58 PM

86. They look like they were painted by George W Bush

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #86)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:03 PM

90. I agree nt

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #86)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:52 PM

99. I wouldn't go THAT far

 

I don't think they're very good though - just LOUD

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:05 AM

94. I don't like them

 

his is hideous, and hers does not look like her

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 05:57 AM

97. can't wait to see the trump portrait

with the orange prison garb to match his face color.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:44 AM

98. I love Obama but I'm not in love with his portrait here.

The background looks like it is about to devour him.

Michelle's portrait, on the other hand, is beautiful to me.

I guess it is true what they say about opinions.

In the end, all that matters is that the Obama's are happy with the finished product.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:09 PM

100. I like these portraits. They are a different style than the usual and that's a good thing.

The mouth breathers apparently believe there is something wrong with Obama's fingers....


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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:13 PM

101. I love both paintings.

I think they are beautiful.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:15 PM

102. I did not...

...like the portraits at the unveiling. The do look a little better above.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:30 PM

103. I would love to see a portrait of Michelle

By the artist who did Barack.

I think that would be beautiful.

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Response to mobeau69 (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 06:37 PM

104. I think they are historical and a reflection

of Jacob Lawrence’s work. He was an amazing painter during and after the Harlem Renaissance.

Congratulations to the Obamas for opening the door to beautiful cultural differences! 🌻🌿🌸

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