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WED JUL 25, 2012 AT 12:28 PM PDT
Brits mock the hell out of Mittens over "Anglo-Saxon" remarks. Do shut the hell up like a good chap
by MinistryOfTruth
Want to be more like the Anglo-Saxons?
Its greatest threat these days is probably the former Republican president's "Bushisms".
It was sixth century British monk Gildas who saw the coming of the Anglo-Saxons as God's punishment for the sins of the Britons an apocalyptic view that would be right at home in the delusional wing of the Republican party, and proof that the basic British distrust of foreigners was alive and well long before the barbarians invaded. If the Anglo-Saxons taught us anything, it is surely that we are all foreigners in our own country. Perhaps the Republicans can draw some inspiration from that.
One notes that the same servility to rulers applies to our Anglo-Saxon cousins across the water and that, no matter what their political hue, monarchs are accorded the respect due in the office of president.
In 1066, Britain's mongrel nation status became complete, having been officially invaded by the Romans, the Angles and Saxons, the Jutes from Denmark, the Vikings and finally by the Normans who, critically, stopped Anglo-Saxon culture in its tracks. Twenty years after the invasion, the Anglo-Saxon nobility were in exile, or consigned to the peasantry, with only 8% of England under their control. The myth of Anglo-Saxon roots that Romney wants to perpetrate denies the enormous contribution to British culture by, essentially, the French. Without the Norman invasion of Anglo-Saxon England, our language and culture would obviously be very different Mitt Romney would be wise not to cast us all back into the Dark Ages.
MORE:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jul/25/mitt-romney-anglo-saxon-values
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/07/25/1113573/-Brits-mock-the-hell-out-of-Mittens-over-Anglo-Saxon-remarks-Do-shut-the-hell-up-like-a-good-chap
maddezmom
(135,060 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)gordianot
(15,226 posts)Mitt would have been a good target for wealth distribution.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Good for them!!
posted wrong place.. too much wine I think .. hehe.
ailsagirl
(22,837 posts)So Mittens isn't exactly knocking their socks off??
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)KeepItReal
(7,769 posts)...wait... Wrong continent!
(but Mitt's people wouldn't know that)
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That's "shite".
southernyankeebelle
(11,304 posts)LongTomH
(8,636 posts)Warpy
(110,900 posts)Mittens doesn't give a shit about the UK or any of the longstanding diplomatic ties, diplomacy is for sissies.
Mittens wants everybody to know that the GOP is now the white man's party (like there was ever any doubt) and that they will be dedicated to preserving the heritage of the <s>Master Race</s> Anglo Saxons who, after all, founded the country (if you ignore the German majority and all the native people who got here first).
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)zeemike
(18,998 posts)MissMarple
(9,656 posts)Please.
calimary
(80,693 posts)Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2012, 02:24 AM - Edit history (1)
Many people thought Bush was "the kind of guy you wanted to have a beer with". People are beginning to realize that Romney is "the kind of guy you want to pour a beer on".
That's perfect.
Liberal In Texas
(13,452 posts)LOL
laundry_queen
(8,646 posts)coalition_unwilling
(14,180 posts)Berlum
(7,044 posts)muntrv
(14,505 posts)flamingdem
(39,303 posts)Kaleva
(36,145 posts)flamingdem
(39,303 posts)Methinks he taketh too much! I didn't know what this meant though I've always heard the term. So they've been ripping off Cornwall for a long time. Go rip off Wales! Now I'm curious about the history of all this, time for more googling.
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The Duchy of Cornwall is a private estate which funds the public, charitable and private activities of The Prince of Wales and his family. The Duchy consists of around 53,408 hectares of land in 23 counties, mostly in the South West of England.
The Duchy estate was created in 1337 by Edward III for his son and heir, Prince Edward, and its primary function was to provide him and future Princes of Wales with an income from its assets. A charter ruled that each future Duke of Cornwall would be the eldest surviving son of the Monarch and the heir to the throne.
The current Duke of Cornwall, HRH The Prince of Wales, is actively involved in running the Duchy and his philosophy is to improve the estate and pass it on to future Dukes in a stronger and better condition.
gordianot
(15,226 posts)libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)flamingdem
(39,303 posts)I learned about my ancestors when I saw a Celtic Cross in Cornwall that was slashed with an Anglican Church cross. My family being subversive got me all agitated about how "they" came and repressed us! The original Britons. But of course we came from elsewhere as well and landed all over Europe. Later I discovered the Celts were .. a bit primitive.. sat on the floor to eat and didn't use utensils! So they were a bit less developed than those Anglo Saxons but really they were much more creative and tied to the earth, female diety worshippers and all.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)The celts defeated the etruscans and the romans (once). They believed more in not sacking (especially the farmers)and pillaging; but rather, demanding tribute. One battle I read about against the romans, they put their best warrior against the roman's best warrior; the winner would declare victory. The roman lost; however, the romans weren't very good at keeping their word; they attacked after the match.
Now letters to caesar from a roman senator show that the senator attempted to persuade caesar to make a trade treaty with the celts because of their fine weaving (especially a form of coat) and their excellent metallurgy skills. It doesn't sound like a bunch of barbarians sitting on the floor in their bear rug capes.
The celts also had a thing about cleanliness. A great insult was to tell someone their nails were dirty, and the women wore makeup and took important positions(which the romans were appalled). An ambassador to rome at one time was a woman. history is written by the conquerers; too bad the romans (who were great at using other peoples' ideas) implemented the grappling hook. I read that the use of the grappling hook help bring down the celts at sea.
Also, the celts valued music, art and gave tribute to those who were talented.
the anglo-saxons are from the germanic tribes who burned alive their enemies, as well as, their own people. Even Caesar was appalled by their actions.
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)In that same tract about the Celts I read about the fine clothing, and yes that didn't add up with the rest of what what said. In particular they talked about striped cloth, and also metallurgy and jewelry.
14thColony
(1,515 posts)The Celtics are a basketball team from Boston. Few of them are Celts.
Yes, people who are often described as Celts (although probably erroneously, it turns out) still form the majority or large minorities in Cornwall, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland, and I'm sure Mitt's comment was a resounding success with them, great Anglo-Saxon lovers that they are.
newspeak
(4,847 posts)they were britons, iocene, etc... They didn't call themselves celts.
14thColony
(1,515 posts)The fact that only one small tribe in southern Gaul actually called themselves Celts, plus a mountain of DNA and linguistic evidence, has led to the new view that 'Celt' is more an 18th century invention than a historical people, culture, or even language.
Add to that that there's zero archaeological or genetic evidence that this 'Angle-Saxon Invasion of Britain' ever happened, and it's entirely possible virtually nothing we thought we knew about sub-Roman Britain is actually correct.
But then I'm sliding off topic here...
djean111
(14,255 posts)what was actually meant was "WHITE".
Kolesar
(31,182 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)that Aryans aren't white (although you couldn't tell a neo-nazi that)?
14thColony
(1,515 posts)'Iran' is just a corrupted form of Aryan -- land of the Aryans. Although plenty of Iranians look as European as any French or Germans I've seen, just often with a tan.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)but it does make sense. Funny thing, when I heat "aryan" I immediately picture Ricardo Montelban- he played Khan in the original Star Trek, and in the movie Wrath of Khan.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)I would just love to see the deer in the headlights look on his face when that one pops up.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Shag you Mittens!
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)DCBob
(24,689 posts)that sorry arse Rmoney brought it out of me!
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)evilhime
(326 posts)indeed
kp
flamingdem
(39,303 posts)Note the use of twat
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At a guess, Anglo Saxon isn't racist per se for the average Brit.
But for an American, I suggest it's different.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Anglo-Saxon_Protestant
Although Romney is a mormon, you can see that Romney is making the unsubtle racist bid of saying I'm white, you're white, and I'm therefore sure that our relationship will be better than the one you have with Obama. He's a prize is old Mitt ain't he?
Carpetbagger, millionaire tax-dodging, tax-hiding, scissors-wielding asshole with more sense of self-entitlement than the usual upper-class twat. Remote elitist doesn't even begin to cover it.
Obama grows with stature each time I hear him.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)some bad things about the program, but the English still love it.
liberal N proud
(60,298 posts)gopiscrap
(23,673 posts)nolabear
(41,915 posts)And I think they're onto him being awkward and perhaps not a human being, too.
GOD SAVE THE QUEEN AND ALL WHO SERVE HER!!
libinnyandia
(1,374 posts)naughty forms were Anglo-Saxon.
nxylas
(6,440 posts)It's why, for example, "faeces" is suitable for a medical textbook, while its Anglo-Saxon equivalent, "shit" is considered to be "bad language".
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)DirkGently
(12,151 posts)BumRushDaShow
(127,259 posts)In 1066, Britain's mongrel nation status became complete, having been officially invaded by the Romans, the Angles and Saxons, the Jutes from Denmark, the Vikings and finally by the Normans who, critically, stopped Anglo-Saxon culture in its tracks. Twenty years after the invasion, the Anglo-Saxon nobility were in exile, or consigned to the peasantry, with only 8% of England under their control. The myth of Anglo-Saxon roots that Romney wants to perpetrate denies the enormous contribution to British culture by, essentially, the French. Without the Norman invasion of Anglo-Saxon England, our language and culture would obviously be very different Mitt Romney would be wise not to cast us all back into the Dark Ages.
Tell it like it is! "Mongrels"!! Just like much of the world thanks to continual human migrations..
sulphurdunn
(6,891 posts)weren't French. They were mongrel Norse, Brits and Frogs.
Response to kpete (Original post)
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pkdu
(3,977 posts)tclambert
(11,080 posts)Indeed? In-deed.
MagickMuffin
(15,886 posts)You gotta know how their code words work.
Less government = less corporate intrusion. We the people not so much, more government intrusion for us.
Contract for America = Contract ON America.
As a Nation 'We the People' lost more of our Bill of Rights under this so called contract. 4th amendment was the first to go back then all those years ago. 1st amendment was next with all those free speech zones, however the religious zealots scream about their religious freedoms being stamped out when nothing from the such is happening.
But DO NOT trample upon the 2nd amendment or they will go ballistic!
Canuckistanian
(42,290 posts)Les Angleterres sont partiallement Français?
Incroyable!
VWolf
(3,944 posts)(Pardon my ... French. It's been a while.)
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Irishonly
(3,344 posts)Brits, you have to love them.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)They said they couldn't go through another Bush type reign.
ailsagirl
(22,837 posts)that they "are not amused"
Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)God, how refreshing that must be.
mwooldri
(10,291 posts)Legally, there is no separation between Church and State. In practice, it is separate. I like to think Britain is mindful of the fact that there are people with different religious beliefs - even within Christianity - and that the lessons over the last few hundred years taught us that tolerance is the only way to go. Some people do forget though.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)My daughter says Mitt Romney is a racist 455h013. Oh where was I. If people were paying attention this would end Mitt's career. Or, perhaps this kind of thing appeals to the crazies.
Generic Other
(28,979 posts)'Romney wants to rebuild the special relationship, building on 'an Anglo-Saxon heritage'. What might that mean, exactly?''
It means he wants to fuck us, steal all our shit and then leave us to rot.
OriginalGeek
(12,132 posts)he just wants to work with white folk.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,119 posts)This could wind up being the inspiration for National Lampoon's European Vacation II.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Cant wait!
NoMittens
(27 posts)he'll be white toast in November (will that be Anglo-Saxon enough for him)?
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Better yet, let's ask the native American peoples, black South Africans, and Hindis. Praising Anglo-Saxon people (and I probably am one) is coming awfully close to saying that blond blue-eyed people are the master race. The truth is that there is no such thing as race. Who can say that 100 generations back, some of your ancestors may have ridden over the alps with Hannibal, or sold as a slave in a Cairo market?
EnviroBat
(5,290 posts)Just like dubya was. These fucking republicans have got to go...
Ebadlun
(336 posts)A government for the rich, slashing public spending and plunging the country back into recession through ideological boneheadedness. We don't need yours as well, thanks.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)DallasNE
(7,392 posts)When I asked if English was a second language for Romney since he didn't speak in the manner of ordinary Americans.
Stop destroying the English Language with Bushisms and Palinspeak
Bushisms like "whatever I said, I stand by it" and Palinspeak like Romney "resigned retroactively".
Loved the Brits bloody putdown of Romney concerning the winter Olympics being held "out in the middle of nowhere". Welcome to the big leagues Mr. Rmoney.
Erose999
(5,624 posts)in France, as an exiled noble escaping a war.
Odin2005
(53,521 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)Is that the English are perhaps the most mixed group in all Europe. England was where a bunch of Celts, Vikings, Romans, Germans, and others found themselves, and were forced to make a language. That language has come into use because it is the one that is roughly half Latin and half German, giving the other nations a halfway point. In short, it is because they are a mix of cultures that they have been successful.
DonCoquixote
(13,615 posts)Not simply that if Romney did well in the UK, the media would say how Romney was "presidential" and ready to rule the free world.
Not simply that Romney can lie about what he said and did not say,
No
The horror is, like the people that vote for him, facts do not matter. Money is used to drown everything, including and especially the facts.
I understand that many on the left are angry with Obama, but I will say this, if Mitt gets the crown, we will see new lows we never before imagined.
Spirochete
(5,264 posts)Now we can never make Amy Winehouse jokes again.