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Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:03 PM

Kirstin Gillibrand coming up on 60 Minutes very shortly.

My checkbook is closed for the weekend.

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Reply Kirstin Gillibrand coming up on 60 Minutes very shortly. (Original post)
TheCowsCameHome Feb 2018 OP
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The Velveteen Ocelot Feb 2018 #51
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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:05 PM

1. I will afford her the same hearing she gave Al. TV is off. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:50 PM

33. Part of being a liberal is keeping an open mind

So are you a liberal or not?

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:00 PM

42. It doesn't mean not ever making it up. n/t

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #42)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:46 PM

119. Or listening to both sides

when you have already made up your mind apparently.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #119)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:40 PM

123. I made up my mind I'm not going to

argue with you.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #123)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:54 PM

125. Touche LOL

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #33)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:54 PM

76. that is not fair

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #76)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:47 PM

120. How so? nt

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #120)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:17 AM

146. People don't have to live up to your standard of what a liberal is.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #146)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 10:06 AM

147. No my standard.

liberal noun (1820)
: a person who is liberal: as
a : one who is open-minded or not strict in the observance of orthodox, traditional, or established forms or ways
(C)1997, 1996 Zane Publishing, Inc. All rights reserved

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #147)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 08:56 PM

148. Being open minded does not mean not forming opinions. It means being open to new information.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #148)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:40 AM

150. Everyone is entitiled to their own opinion,

but not entitled to their own facts. To quote the great Daniel Patrick Moynihan.

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Response to rzemanfl (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:57 PM

41. CNBC - Trump complains about lack of due process

Not believing women is bipartisan.

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/02/10/trump-chides-lack-of-due-process-in-sexual-misconduct-cases-as-2-aides-forced-to-resign.html

President Donald Trump on Saturday bemoaned what he perceived as a lack of due process, at a time when two of his aides have been forced to resign for similar reasons.

Over the last few days, two White House staffers have stepped down under a cloud of suspicion involving claims of domestic abuse. After staff secretary Rob Porter was forced out, Trump appeared to defend him by saying Porter had denied the allegations — even as White House chief of staff John Kelly acknowledged they were credible.

On Saturday, Trump doubled down on his defense by tweeting that "lives are being shattered" by allegations that may or may not be true. The president — who has been buffeted by claims of sexual misconduct — asked: "Is there no such thing as due process?"

In Porter's case, both of his ex-wives told a news publication that he had physically and verbally abused them. One of the women said Porter choked and punched her during their five-year marriage, according to a report published Wednesday by the Daily Mail.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:06 PM

2. does she even realize how badly she shot herself in the foot?

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:08 PM

3. No. NT

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:11 PM

5. Considering that nobody but a handful of bloggers appear upset with her?

I’m guessing she’s not worried at all.

She may well not assembling a compelling Presidential campaign message, but the Franken resignation won’t be the driving issue.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:20 PM

7. Good luck with trying to polish that turd

Primary voters are her problem, don't see her getting through New York, CA, Minnesota, so good luck trying to pull a nomination out by losing her home state and the largest state.

SHE FUCKED UP!

Too bad really, she had a decent future until she let the true Kirsten out.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:23 PM

10. Point to any data that the Franken issue will be a driving force in the 2020 Primary.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:20 PM

46. I'll guarantee you the DFLers in Minnesota will not forget. nt

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Response to dflprincess (Reply #46)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:23 PM

48. With all due respect, when has Minnesota been pivotal in a Presidential nomination?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:29 PM

51. Some people didn't think Wisconsin was important last time.

You never know which state will make a difference.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #48)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:31 PM

52. If it's a tight race, every vote will count

Nice to know her supporters (and probably herself) feel they can just right the state off. That should help her a lot.

Any other states you think she can ignore?


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Response to dflprincess (Reply #52)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:43 PM

58. Bernie Sanders won the MN Caucus 61-38...how'd that work out for him?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #58)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:26 PM

67. There will probably be more than 2 candidates in 2020

she'll need every delegate she can get.

BTW Obama won the caucus vote in 2008; maybe he didn't need us to put him over the top, but it didn't hurt.

And, again, what other states do you think she can afford to write off?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #48)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

79. California will be

And I guarantee there are a lot of us out here that won't vote for her in a Primary.

Too cute by half, and she will pay for it.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #79)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 07:56 AM

151. I am from Northern California, and agree

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:49 AM

98. How about the overwhelming number of pro-Franken posters here on DU v the Gillebrand...

Last edited Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:19 PM - Edit history (1)

defenders? You guys are badly outnumber by DUers favoring Franken...and we are from states all over the country.

I'd say that's a pretty good sampling of Dem sentiment against backstabbers.

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Response to brush (Reply #98)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:49 AM

113. DU isnt representative of the Democratic Party as a whole.

You shouldn’t take a sentiment here and extrapolate it to the party as a whole.

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Response to tammywammy (Reply #113)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:06 PM

115. That's one view. Another is that DUers are from every state in the country.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:23 AM

107. I think there are enough Democrats who won't vote for her that she will lose a 2020 primary...should

she win, I would vote for her in a general. She is not my first choice because of the Franken thing, but she is preferable to any Republican. I only hope we keep Minnesota.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #107)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:40 AM

108. "I thinK" is based on what information?

One thing I NEVER do is let me personal feelings get in the way of my view of the real world.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #108)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:49 PM

124. Never?


Oh. Really.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #108)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:54 PM

134. I spend time on social media. It is my opinion based on what I see that she will not

win a 2020 presidential primary...this is an opinion...and there is not reason to get so nasty about this. I think she was longshot even without the Franken issue...I am not one who believes she should be punished or step down or any other of the crazy stuff I have seen here and elsewhere. She is a popular Senator, and she is not my Senator so it is not my concern. But now Sen Brown also called on Franken to resign so how could I condemn her and not him? I like Sen. Brown a great deal. He iis a great Senator.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #134)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:11 PM

138. I have no judgement that she'll win the nomination either...

...but I'm not asserting that it's because of the Franken issue and/or voter turn out in Minnesota.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #138)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:17 PM

139. When I lived in Georgia...they talked about our last Democratic governor...Roy Barnes...they

said he (called him King Roy) kept doing certain thing that caused people to leave the big 'tent' ...and he did lose sadly. I view this as similar...she lost a certain number of voters but then 20 is a ways off too...have to consider that. Even if she doesn't win, we could never know how much if any an affect Franken had...I just looked at some of the pushback online and thought it might have hurt her chances...not saying I have evidence or even a crystal ball!

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:50 PM

17. we get it, you hate Franken

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:54 PM

37. Where did brooklynite say she hates Franken?

Don’t put words in someone else’ mouth.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #37)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:24 PM

49. Feel free to check the FEC listings as to how much I've contributed to Franken...

...and I have no preference as to a likely Presidential candidate. Such adding a touch of political reality to the debate.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #49)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:35 PM

53. LOL, what a shock. You bragging about money again? WHY????? nt

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Response to USALiberal (Reply #53)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:40 PM

57. So, if I don't contribute to Franken, I "hate him"...

...and if I DO contribute to Franken, I'm flaunting my income.

Which do you want?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #57)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:12 PM

64. FWIW...Shake it off...

We might not always agree, even on the Franken issue, but I have never viewed your posts as showing off...I do find it enlightening to know what’s going on within well connected circles. Frankly, I’d be lying if I said I wasn’t jealous to be within the same circles!! And I say that as a Dem that happens to, likewise, be blessed with a generous income. So, keep on posting your insight brooklynite!

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #49)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:48 PM

121. Some don't like to accept political reality.

It gets in the way of being outraged.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:57 PM

20. Actually, it might be...

I could see her presenting her actions regarding Franken as being "brave" enough to follow #MeToo to its proper conclusion, even if it hurt a powerful male Democrat.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:30 PM

117. That seems about right.

You must log off of DU every now and then. lol

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:21 PM

8. Doubt it.

She railroaded a fine senator because she thinks its going to help her WH bid.

She couldn't be more wrong....

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Response to fallout87 (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:25 PM

24. Not with me it won't!

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Response to Skittles (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:08 PM

21. When it comes to President Clinton, she didn't learn from the lesson of Al Gore.

He came to the district to campaign for her when she first ran in 2006. There was a standing room only crowd and they came to see him. She was an unknown.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:09 PM

4. Glad I'm watching the Olympics with women athletes that either are or will be

role models now and into the future. Kirsten who?

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Response to democratisphere (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:46 PM

16. :) . That's all.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:12 PM

6. K&R

Solid voice on our side.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:22 PM

9. You mean the "former" blue dog?

No thanks.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:34 PM

11. I really don't understand her attitude about President Clinton

He helped her get elected, came to the district to campaign for her when she first ran for Congress in 2006.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:36 PM

13. Calculation to distance herself from the name "Clinton"

Maybe I'm wrong. I think it is purely a political calculation.

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Response to JDC (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:41 PM

14. Hillary Clinton was instrumental, too.

She was thinking of running in 2004, but Hillary advised her to wait until 2006 when she'd have a better chance. Both Clintons supported her - and this was well after he left office. And of course I can't see how anyone would benefit without Al Franken in the Senate to speak for us.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:44 PM

15. I think she is trying to distance herself from Hillary

And Bill was a convenient target as part of that motive. I should note: All if her moves I consider to be MIScalculations.

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Response to JDC (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:53 PM

18. I do see your point, but I think she's shooting herself in the foot.

Both Clintons are powerful allies and when he came to the district to campaign for her, it was standing room only. She managed to unseat a long time incumbent and I believe President Clinton's support was instrumental in that. The Clintons helped her get her start. I was at that rally in 2006 here in NY-20. President Clinton absolutely charmed the crowd.

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Response to JDC (Reply #13)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 10:42 AM

153. And as we know, that strategy worked so well for Al Gore in 2000

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:38 PM

26. she is self-serving

 

she makes me sick

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Response to Skittles (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:40 PM

28. She was my congresswoman here in NY-20

It's very disappointing.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #26)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:46 PM

31. All politicians are self-serving

Yet only women are demonized for it.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #31)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:20 PM

47. Yes. No one has yet had the courage

To call out Donald Trump for being self-serving, nor has anyone here criticized, say, Chuck Schumer this week.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #31)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:54 PM

59. Yes

Thank you.

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Response to Trumpocalypse (Reply #31)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:13 AM

83. Nope

I'm not a fan of Bill Clinton either, he is too calculating also.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:36 PM

12. I just saw Mazdzer win USAs first ever mens singles luge medal(silver) on TV


Tv stays on Olympics
more to come
Women's Moguls next

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:53 PM

19. I can't think of anything she might say that I would want to hear.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:09 PM

22. Oooooo, let me DVR it.

Ha! Not really.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:17 PM

23. She did an excellent job.

Explained changes in position and what drove those changes. Admitted that she was wrong on a couple of big issues during the past and that she did not work hard enough to fully educate herself on some issues earlier in her career. Overall, a solid case presented by her.

She clearly is passionate about women's rights and prevention of sexual abuse and assault in all areas of American society.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:27 PM

25. Good to know.

Thanks for posting.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:39 PM

27. helping to railroad a great senator is not PASSION, it is self-serving BULLSHIT

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:45 PM

30. You have your opinion. Other people that saw the same events have their opinion.

That is the way life and politics work. Even the 60 Minutes correspondent, who started out hostile toward Gillibrand seem impressed toward the end of the effort covering and interviewing her for the 60 Minutes piece.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #30)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:36 PM

54. She is damaged goods. And I am glad. nt

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #30)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:31 PM

69. we all know she is good peddling bullshit

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #27)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:55 PM

39. She said Al Franken didn't have to resign

And he can still have his ethics review (paraphrasing).

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #39)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:54 PM

60. Bwahahahahaha!

Did she really say that?
She will not get my vote in the primary.
I will be changing my registration from Independent to Democrat just to vote against her.
And, yes, if she is the democratic candidate in the final, I will vote for her. Not happily.

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #60)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:19 AM

89. "Did she really say that? "

I was paraphrasing(?).

She said he can still get 'due process'.

due process = “fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement”

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #89)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:27 PM

127. he has ALREADY been railroaded out of his job

 

and NONE of it was "FAIR"

I have absolute DISGUST for anyone who participated in that garbage

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #39)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:30 PM

68. that is her backpedding

 

because she now knows a lot of people with critical thinking skills never bought her self-serving bullshit

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:30 AM

94. Or maybe she is good at making people think she is passionate about an issue

When it is politically expedient.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:41 PM

29. Did she talk about her support of Big Tobacco ?

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Response to JI7 (Reply #29)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:52 PM

35. Complete distortion by you.

A junior attorney in a law firm don't chose who they represent unless they resign or are willing to get fired.

I worked for one of the biggest defense suppliers as a young engineer out of college. I was somewhat anti defense, I was a big fan of US Senators who shed a light on excessive defense spending. I needed my job, I was not about to quit, I took and completed the assignments that were given to me. But I understand that some people are so pure that they can easily find fault with the decisions that I made, but that is life.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:02 PM

44. "But I understand that some people are so pure"

That was Gillirand in calling for Franken to resign

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:12 PM

45. I was with you until your whiny, passive-aggressive last sentence.

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Response to Demit (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:18 AM

88. you got that right

 

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Response to Demit (Reply #45)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:44 PM

131. Well placed and earned dismissals often

look like whiny, passive agressive (whatever that means, maybe you can explain) statements, but they are what they are, dismissals of foolishness.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #35)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:37 PM

55. Not quite. She was a major player for the firm she worked for.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #32)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:01 PM

43. Bernie Sanders lambasts 'absolute failure' of Democratic party's strategy

Yeah, attacking the Democratic Party was Bernie Sander's calling card.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jun/11/bernie-sanders-lambasts-absolute-failure-of-democratic-partys-strategy

“The current model and the current strategy of the Democratic party is an absolute failure,” Sanders said.

“The Democratic party needs fundamental change. What it needs is to open up its doors to working people, and young people, and older people who are prepared to fight for social and economic justice.

“The Democratic party must understand what side it is on. And that cannot be the side of Wall Street, or the fossil fuel industry, or the drug companies.”

Sanders’s speech was rapturously received at the People’s Summit, a gathering of some of the most influential progressive activists and organizations in the country.

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Response to TomCADem (Reply #43)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:27 PM

50. Calling for change doesn't equate to attack.

 

All Bernie was saying in that speech is that the party should be what it's supposed to be...a party that takes the side of the non-wealthy against the wealthy.

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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #50)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:42 AM

96. Geez Ken. Youre like Batman.

First mention of Bernie and you show up. No other interest in the subject of this thread? Perhaps enlighten us on your opinion when Bernie piled onto Franken?

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #96)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:17 AM

101. I'd have said the same thing about anyone else accused of attacking the party

 

just because they called for change.

And I don't WANT Bernie to run again-I don't think anyone who ran in '16 should run-we need to be totally clear of any of the personal toxicity of that year and the only way to do that is to be free of the personalities of that year.

Instead, I simply want the party, whoever it nominates, to incorporate the economic component of the ideas his campaign championed and to make his supporters welcome rather than treating them like they're the enemy or as though T___p is their fault.

THAT is why I sometimes to post things that sound protective of Bernie-not out of any loyalty to him, but out of the conviction that we can't win if we as a party anathemize every idea and every person remotely connected to his campaign. I'm not campaigning for anybody or against anybody...it's just about ideas and wanting us to be able to get the votes we need to get if we're to beat the Right in '18 and '20.

Can people here please trust me when I say why I do this and stop acting like I have a hidden agenda or that I'm lying when I say I don't support anybody for 2020? What possible point would there be in my being dishonest about my intent?

As to the thread...I was reading it and I haven't quite been able to decide who I would side with between Gillibrand and Franken. I'm now anti-Gillibrand but still have some serious issues with Al's choices. It bothers the hell out of me that Gillibrand said that her insistence on pushing for Al's resignation was justified in the name of defending her "right to speak out". Why would she her "right to speak out" as, seemingly, more important than standing up against sexual harassment as an objective in itself.




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Response to Ken Burch (Reply #101)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:27 AM

102. Youve been here a hell of a lot longer than me

But since I have been here the only time I see you show up are Bernie related threads. I might be missing something, but...

Give that a thought

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #102)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:30 AM

104. I actually haven't been in a lot of those threads recently.

 

Sometimes, I also post less than at other times, and I've been posting less lately in general because some people now automatically give me blowback no matter what I post about.

And this actually ISN'T a "Bernie thread" (you'll note I addressed the OP at the end of the post you responded to.

When I do show up in those, it's simply because I think that the fixation some people have with attacking not only him but his supporters(and really, it's in our interest to find some positive way to connect with them, as opposed to the usual response progressive dissidents get in this party, where the party insiders band together to thwart them and then demand support from them right after said thwarting) is unhealthy and damaging, costing us new supporters from the left without gaining us votes from any other part of the spectrum.

It's not something that started in 2016-it goes back at least to 1968 in this party. And I've been pointing out the problem since at least 1976, the first year where I was actively involved in presidential politics

Instead of the usual "we'll stop them-then DEMAND their votes" thing, why not actually reach out to insurgents and see them as the source of new energy and new ideals they could be? Why not invite insurgents in, acknowledge the validity of what they're fighting for and treat them as people of value? Changing the dynamic in that way could only do us good, and can be done without supporting any candidate.

It's about a mindset, not about a person.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #102)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:50 PM

129. I've been here a long time as well

I have to say that I've seen Ken Burch post on quite a variety of threads. It could just be a coincidence that you've noticed him when something is Bernie related. And sometimes we see what we expect.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #129)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:30 PM

140. Canny dispute that possibility

Perhaps they are the only threads we both frequent

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #140)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 07:41 PM

142. Ah, that is a good point!

I lived on the Gulf Coast many years ago for a few years Gulfport and then Pensacola. Your DU name just jumped out at me.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #142)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 07:54 PM

143. Were you in the service?

I am from S. Louisiana but currently reside in Central Florida about an hour from the gulf. But I will retire on the coast.

Have a nice evening.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #143)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:05 PM

144. No

I was in high school and my father got a job in Mississippi and later Florida. We moved from the Chicago area, so it a very different world. I loved the beaches though.



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Response to TomCADem (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:01 PM

126. It will never end, the wholesale attack of the Democratic Party, because very powerful interests

cant steal our SS and our Medicare as long as the DNC is around.

Black people and gay people and non christian religious people will not be wholesale deported or harmed as long as the DNC is around.

So there is INDEED a desire to destroy democrats.

There simply is no bigger fan or supporter of Al Franken on this site than me, and yet I can see what is going on and just how harmful it is.

I bet Al would advise people to stay united and stop the infighting, because he knows what is at stake.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:51 PM

34. Sounds like her views have changed a lot since first being elected

That might hurt her should she run in 2020.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #34)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:55 PM

38. She gave sound, logical explanations of why some of her view changed.

A lot of people find it refreshing when a politician admits to being wrong and can explain the details of what caused their change in viewpoint.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #38)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:33 PM

72. LOLOLOL

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #72)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:37 AM

95. ...

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:54 PM

36. Im glad she showed her true colors

last year, as there will be many candidates to choose from in future races.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:56 PM

40. That's when we turned off the TV

It is not just the way she went after Franken without whom Sessions would not have recused himself.

It is not that she is resurrecting Bill Clinton, who gave us a period of surplus between three Republican administrations with ballooned deficits.

It is that, when it comes down to it, she is a one dimension politician.

Besides assault on women - what else is on her agenda?

And when talking about assaulting women - is she talking only about wealthy Hollywood celebrities? What about the women working at a minimum wage in the factories, in fast food chains who cannot afford to even complain? The assault on whom is more than just "look at my dick?"



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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:39 PM

56. She's Great

I always liked Kirstin Gillibrand! She would make a good party leader.

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Response to BlueDog22 (Reply #56)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:00 AM

100. Not...bot.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:06 PM

61. Joe Biden 2020 !

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Response to stonecutter357 (Reply #61)

Wed Feb 14, 2018, 08:01 AM

152. I have issues with Joe, but, and would prefer someone else, but if it was between Joe and Gillibrand

Joe would get my vote in the primary in a NY minute

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Response to Post removed (Reply #62)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:15 PM

65. No, it was posted to notify DUers that she was coming up.

I didn't know until the preview at the beginning of the show.

Nice try, but still a "fail".

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Response to Post removed (Reply #62)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:17 PM

66. Hey. You're right.

I have had the flu for a week. Don't get it if you can help it.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:11 PM

63. I will not support her in the 2020 primaries, if it happens.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:31 PM

70. Like always, the woman catches shit

For what 30 odd other Democratic Senators also did.

Including a hero of many here.

But of course they get a pass because, you know, she made them do it.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #70)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:32 PM

71. she led the effort

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #71)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:34 PM

73. Exactly.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #71)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:47 PM

74. And the 30 or SENATORS were then rendered helpless

I am no fan of hers and she would not be my choice in a primary. But to see so many here trying to use her in an effort to excuse their favorite for doing the exact fucking thing she did is so obvious and humorous.

These people are Senators. If they are weak livered enough to allow her to dictate their decision then she is the best among them. At least she acted without feeling the need to go along with the crowd.

I do not like her, but can call our hypocrisy.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #74)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:50 PM

75. I never said I had any respect for them either

 

and she acted WITHOUT THINKING of anyone by HERSELF

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Response to Skittles (Reply #75)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:03 AM

77. Then why pile on the girl?

Why not blame the guy who actually had to resign? Or chose to resign?

Or all the other Senators who did the exact thing she did.?

In my flawed opinion some here are using this to damage a percieved threat to their favorites.

No, let’s blame the girl who might actually be sensitive to these issues.

I use the term girl to make a point. I normally find that term very offensive and will correct anyone in a professional setting who use the term.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #77)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:08 AM

78. People are blaming the person who first threw Al under the bus.

It's not about gender.

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #78)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:16 AM

85. No...

They are attempting to use her to remove blame for others, especially one who many love, of all complicity.

I do not like her at all. But I recognize hypocrisy when I see it.

This is the US Senate. Not the 10th grade where peer pressure rules.

I have no doubt she did it to remove a rival. But so did other Senators. If you hate her with the fire of hell but excuses all other Senators who did the same she as her...think about it.

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Response to IluvPitties (Reply #78)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:26 AM

93. The person who threw Al Franken under the bus was himself

He himself admitted he did things that made women uncomfortable. You don't get to blame the women who came forward, or even the people who called on him to resign. You blame the guy who couldn't keep his hands to himself. If he had done that, then he'd still be in the Senate.

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Response to mythology (Reply #93)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:56 AM

99. Thank you.

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Response to mythology (Reply #93)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:33 AM

110. Some of the allegations at least seem to be

a political hitjob.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #77)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

81. BECAUSE SHE LED THE EFFORT

 

FOR SELF-SERVING REASONS

DONE WITH HER AND I AM *DONE HERE*

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Response to Skittles (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:21 AM

90. Bye then. I have not been rude nor insulting

But obviously I have hit a nerve. Tell me one thing I have said that is factually incorrect and I will apologize.

I really do not like the Senator in question but I try to see things with my eyes wide open.

If you are running this quick, please rethink you position.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #90)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 07:51 AM

106. So simply waiting

Last edited Mon Feb 12, 2018, 08:35 AM - Edit history (2)

For an investigation is wrong ?
By going out and demanding his resignation, she played into the freaking republican game.
And, funny how no more complaints have surfaced since he left.
Quite the coinkydink, no?

Danged fat fingers.

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Response to DiverDave (Reply #106)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 10:23 AM

109. I do not disagree with anything you said

I do not think he should have resigned.

What I am objecting to is blaming one senator for the actions of over 30 of them. Especially those who blame her for trying to take out a perceived presidential rival while they are doing the exact same thing by attacking her.

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Response to GulfCoast66 (Reply #109)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:39 AM

112. She can't hog what she thought would be credit

when it turns to blame without being called on it. She leapt to the front to be the one with the headlines. Senator Hirono was on Rachel the day after talking about how they were going to do a joint release only to get back to her office and find that Kirsten had jumped the gun to get the press. As you have stated, it was a mistake. And now a responsible person would acknowledge fault, ask for forgiveness, and try to do amends. Kirsten isn't and neither are the others who fell for that republican sleaze game.

For me, they can all be senators. Some of them are very good at it. But they displayed a lack of political and ethical judgement that should disqualify them for leadership of the party. Pick any reason for their piling onto the band wagon, and it is hollow and shows poor judgement.

Because they fell for the scam, Franken's picture goes up on the screen every time they mention Weinstein, Lauer, and Moore. Does that sound like a good thing? You know who's picture doesn't go up with those - trump.

The whole group stabbed one of their own in the back. Kirsten is getting the most flak because she maneuvered herself to get all the credit when it first came out. She didn't know that it would go the other way. You can't claim credit for building the bridge then blame everyone else when it collapses.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #81)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:50 PM

122. Self serving reasons???

Do you have proof of that? And I mean real proof with facts that can be linked to.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 AM

80. "Sen. Gillibrand: The political face of the #metoo movement"

CBS News:

Gillibrand was the first senator to publically call for Franken – a friend -- to step down last December after eight women accused him of sexual misconduct, including inappropriate touching. Franken was hoping a Congressional investigation would allow him to keep his seat. He resigned not long after Gillibrand and others demanded he do so.

"We just heard allegation after allegation. They were credible allegations. I believed the women," says Gillibrand.

Pressed as to why she didn't wait for all the facts to come out in an investigation, Gillibrand was firm. "Where's my moral compass if I can't speak out just because I like someone? Just because they're my friend? It's okay to be a harasser as long as you're my friend? That is not okay," she tells Alfonsi.

"He's entitled to as much due process as he wants. He doesn't ever have to resign. That's his choice. And my choice is to speak out," says Gillibrand, who has emerged as the political face of the "#metoo" movement.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:12 AM

82. her moral compass includes stabbing friends in the back

 

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Response to Skittles (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:15 AM

84. Exactly.

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Response to Skittles (Reply #82)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:21 AM

91. So , you believe that virtually no Democratic Senator has a moral compass?

Manchin 2020!

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #91)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:22 AM

92. LOLOL

 

not EVEN going to bother; NOT WORTH MY TIME

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #80)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:52 AM

103. ""Where's my moral compass ...

... if I can't speak out just because I like someone? Just because they're my friend?"

Where was her moral compass when she decided to be judge, jury and executioner? Where was her moral compass when she decided that Tweedon, whose story fell apart within 48 hours, was "credible"? Where was her moral compass when the other "credible allegations" turned out to be as ludicrous as Tweedon's: "He touched my waist," "I think he wanted to kiss me, but I turned away", "He touched my ass right in front of my husband and a crowd of people - only not a single person saw it."?

Yeah, it was "her choice to speak out", and now she can live with that choice - which, in case you haven't noticed, isn't exactly going over well with voters.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:16 AM

86. Watched the interview

Did not like her, seems a bit too much posturing going on.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:16 AM

87. Judging by the responses here


She's lost favor with many of us in the party.
Provided everyone here is registered as a Democrat that is.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #116)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:28 PM

128. I thought that was a she

 

but I absolutely agree

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Response to Skittles (Reply #128)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:52 PM

130. Ah you may be right.

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Response to BannonsLiver (Reply #116)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:51 PM

133. Jealous much?

Why attack a person for being wealthy if the person is overall a good person? That is insane.

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Response to SHRED (Reply #87)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:49 PM

132. I like DU, but it does not reflect the very broad Democratic Party.

The Democratic Party as a whole is center-left, DU is noticeably (to me at least) more left and generally better informed about politics and issues.

I think Gillibrand will play well in the eyes of rank and file democrats.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:47 AM

97. I saw the interview - not good

Most of it was her explaining how and why she switched her political positions
to appeal to both liberal down state NY and conservative upstate NY.

I suspect her shifting positions will haunt her should she run for President.

Who was the candidate some years ago who got hammered with the comment:

"I was for it before I was against it" ?

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #97)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:06 PM

114. Yeah, this bothers me waaaay more than anything to do with Al Franken...

...although the Franken incident is yet another example of her taking positions that are self serving, only for as long as they serve her interests.

What people need to be reminded of more than anything is that she was a Blue Dog until it didn't suit her political needs any more. Then she became a Clinton fan.....until that didn't suit her needs any more then it was under the bus they went.. That is what we need to keep harping on more than the Franken thing, although that should be remembered as well.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #97)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 04:54 PM

135. I saw the same 60 Minutes show.

Could not disagree with you more. She came off pretty well in my opinion.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #135)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:00 PM

136. Okie dokie smokie

We agree to disagree.

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #136)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:35 PM

137. Good enough.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:49 AM

105. I'm even more disgusted

after seeing this, she's nothing but an opportunist with no real stands..

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 11:30 AM

111. For some reason, when I think of Gillibrand circa 2017, ...

... I think of Lieberman circa 1998, kinda like I've seen how this movie ends before.

Just sayin'.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:15 PM

118. She said Al Franken is her friend

Said he didn't have to resign,
and he can still get "due process*".

*"fair treatment through the normal judicial system, especially as a citizen's entitlement"

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Response to left-of-center2012 (Reply #118)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:19 PM

149. With friends like these, who needs enemies?

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 07:10 PM

141. Gillibrand? Hell no! Not interested.

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Response to TheCowsCameHome (Original post)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 01:36 AM

145. Kristin Effed Up...Big Time

I was a fan of her, but her recent performance makes me say...WHO the EFF is that?!?!

Thanks, but, no thanks.

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