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Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:31 PM

Jim Carrey on Trump/Porter

‘It should no longer be a surprise to people that Caveman Trump would hire a man like Porter, who’s accused of beating his wives. If you want nasty things done, you hire nasty people. That’s how criminal syndicates thrive. #impeachprehistoricpotus

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Reply Jim Carrey on Trump/Porter (Original post)
pbmus Feb 2018 OP
catbyte Feb 2018 #1
olegramps Feb 2018 #32
HipChick Feb 2018 #2
iluvtennis Feb 2018 #3
pbmus Feb 2018 #4
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #5
iluvtennis Feb 2018 #7
keithbvadu2 Feb 2018 #13
Insomniac Ike Feb 2018 #33
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #34
niyad Feb 2018 #35
calimary Feb 2018 #42
iluvtennis Feb 2018 #6
FailureToCommunicate Feb 2018 #8
BigmanPigman Feb 2018 #9
longship Feb 2018 #10
pbmus Feb 2018 #11
longship Feb 2018 #12
pbmus Feb 2018 #14
longship Feb 2018 #17
pbmus Feb 2018 #19
longship Feb 2018 #20
pbmus Feb 2018 #21
longship Feb 2018 #22
pbmus Feb 2018 #23
longship Feb 2018 #24
flyingfysh Feb 2018 #25
pbmus Feb 2018 #26
Stargazer99 Feb 2018 #29
cab67 Feb 2018 #31
longship Feb 2018 #36
flyingfysh Feb 2018 #15
pbmus Feb 2018 #16
longship Feb 2018 #18
hueymahl Feb 2018 #46
pbmus Feb 2018 #47
Backwoodsrider Feb 2018 #27
longship Feb 2018 #28
LanternWaste Feb 2018 #39
longship Feb 2018 #41
LanternWaste Feb 2018 #38
longship Feb 2018 #40
pbmus Feb 2018 #43
longship Feb 2018 #44
oasis Feb 2018 #30
Nitram Feb 2018 #37
Upthevibe Feb 2018 #45
Nitram Feb 2018 #48

Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 06:39 PM

1. #impeachprehistoricpotus

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Response to catbyte (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:50 PM

32. Trump can't condemn Porter without condemning himself for the same behavior.

He will stick to the phony argument that they are unproven charges to exonerate himself from blame. They are just "lying bitches" "women scorned" is their time proven defense against defenseless women they abuse at will. Hopefully women will refuse to take it anymore and castrate these bastards.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:09 PM

2. Caveman Trump...

that's a keeper..

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:21 PM

3. Carrey's picture in the tweet...

...Carrey is an artist, he probably drew this.


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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:22 PM

4. Thanks...

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:23 PM

5. "Caveman Trump" is redundant...

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:27 PM

7. Indeed it is redundant. LOL

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:55 PM

13. Is that Ivanka?

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Response to FailureToCommunicate (Reply #5)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:54 PM

33. And an Insult to Cavemen

 

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Response to Insomniac Ike (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 01:01 PM

34. So very true. Welcome to DU!

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Response to Insomniac Ike (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:37 PM

35. welcome to du

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Response to Insomniac Ike (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:50 PM

42. Welcome to DU, Insomniac Ike!

Every time I refer to him as a weasel, I feel like I need to apologize to the four-legged kind.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:27 PM

6. Caveman Trump...the Janaury 2018 Der Speigel cover

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:35 PM

8. +1

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 07:38 PM

9. Their cover art is fantastic!

Perfect illustration/graphic...simple yet speaks volumes in a single image.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:18 PM

10. Jim Carrey on vaccines...

Do you really need to ask? Better yet ask (former? Hard to keep up) girlfriend Jenny McCarthy.

Just because he's correct about one thing doesn't mean that I respect the blathering idiot any more on anything else. I am certainly not going to suddenly become a fan because he manages to pull something out that I agree with. His anti-vaccine position has a rather severe body count.

Kooks gotta be kooks.

Regardless, my best to you.

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Response to longship (Reply #10)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:35 PM

11. Vaccines and mercury....? Not too long ago mercury was in vaccines....and still is...

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/hcp/patient-ed/conversations/downloads/vacsafe-thimerosal-color-office.pdf

At one time or another, I think we all become blathering idiots.....I just wish my blathering had paid off like his blathering...



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Response to pbmus (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:45 PM

12. Mercury was taken out of vaccines in 1999.

Except in some flu vaccines (only the multi-dose vials).

The anti-vaccine lunatics continue to lie about that fact, however. Just like they lie about everything else concerning vaccines.

I despise Jim Carrey for carrying water for those ignorant lunatics.

As I wrote above, Jim Carrey's vaccine position has a body count. Justifying it by citing his wealth is a non-starter with me.

Again, my best to you. Thank you for your response.

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Response to longship (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 08:59 PM

14. We all sometimes search for answers to questions that do not have

Plausible endings...sad that we don’t have all the answers.

Despising someone for searching for an answer to his child’s very real life altering experience is ?

And yes, I believe that giving a baby child multiple doses of vaccines in one shot could be harmful, that is why I recommend certain vaccines at certain ages and never given in multiples.

And lastly Your blathering comment and my comment is not justifying anything...

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Response to pbmus (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:08 PM

17. Absolutely no evidence of harm due to child vaccine schedule.

Except in rare cases which are all well documented and of which all doctors giving such injections are aware. Apparently none are long term dangers and are easily treatable.

None of them include autism, the anti-vaccination crowd's bugga-boo.

I apologize for the thread hijack, my friend, but I really hate Jim Carrey for using his fame (and wealth) to promote such pseudoscientific claptrap as anti-vaccination.


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Response to longship (Reply #17)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:24 PM

19. Many of my pediatric friends have adjusted their vaccine schedules

To include no multiple vaccines and have advertised their practices as such....they are timing vaccines to age.

There are no ‘credible’ studies linking vaccines to autism.

However, autism is real and no other link has been found. I am not saying that vaccines have anything to do with autism.

You and I are having a discussion, you did not hijack anything...

Jim happens to have a platform/money and a child of his own born with autism...he and his family have choices...

I agree that anti-vaccine promotion is more than dangerous, it has cost real lives.



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Response to pbmus (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:39 PM

20. The vaccine/autism link has been definitively excluded.

There have been numerous studies concerning that alleged link and the overwhelming concensus is that there is no link.

It does not help that the anti-vaccine crowd cites fraudulent studies, like those of former physician Andrew Wakefield, who lost his physician's license due to fraud in the very autism study which helped start the entire MMR vaccine/autism crapola. Wakefield has a patent on a monovalent measles vaccine. Casting doubt on the trivalent MMR would have given his vaccine a lift. He stood to make millions. That and his defrauding his study subjects, and more, resulted in him being struck off the roles.

The anti-vaccine crowd are, in general as a group, liars to their cores. Or just plain ideological ignorants.

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Response to longship (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:45 PM

21. The liars are in it for the $$$

And the others are still searching for that plausible answer....ignorant some, but not all.

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Response to pbmus (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:53 PM

22. I don't understand why anybody would want to make money that way.

Vaccines are not by themselves a money making proposition for either the drug companies let alone the physicians. Not sure about patent holders, if their patents are still active when a vaccine becomes widely adopted.

Here's a link to a forum of physicians trying to fight the battle against these people, among others. It's a good group. Their posts cite the science.
Science-Based Medicine

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Response to longship (Reply #22)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:55 PM

23. Thank you...and thanks for the discussion

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Response to pbmus (Reply #23)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:59 PM

24. Always!

Time for me to Beam up in time to see the third and fourth acts of Columbo.


Then, good night to you, kind sir.

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Response to pbmus (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 10:50 PM

25. I think the idea of no multiple vaccines in a day is weak

I would prefer to give them on the schedule recommended by doctors. If you spread out the vaccines, you are delaying protection from some serious diseases.

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Response to flyingfysh (Reply #25)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 11:42 PM

26. Pediatric friends are pediatricians...or doctors for children

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Response to longship (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:10 PM

29. Capitalism was what caused mercury to be put in vaccines-it was CHEAPER for the corp

How many people are going to have their health destroyed because of the worship of capitalism. It makes you wonder what else are we exposed to?

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Response to Stargazer99 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:41 PM

31. that's an oversimplification.

The mercury was part of a compound. Saying there was mercury in these vaccines is like saying your peanuts are loaded with deadly chlorine (which they are, though it's in the form of sodium chloride).

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Response to Stargazer99 (Reply #29)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:03 PM

36. The Mercury in vaccines was not hazardous.

It was only due to overcaution that it was removed. The vaccine/autism kooks claimed that its removal would result in plummeting autism rates. Of course, it didn't since vaccines, and mercury in vaccines had absolutely nothing to do with autism. The ethyl mercury in thimerisol isn't even the same kind as that which causes brain issues. That would be methyl mercury, more commonly found in tuna fish.

The vaccine/autism kooks also ignore dose response characteristics in the thimerisol studies, claiming falsely that any mercury, let alone the tiny bit of ethyl mercury in thimerisol is bad.

This has nothing to do with capitalism because neither the drug companies nor physicians make a lot of money from vaccines. That would be yet another anti-vaccine lie. Thimerisol is a preservative used in multidose vials, more convenient for vaccinating many people at once. Without it, there will be only single dose vials. Thus, the capitalism claim just does not pan out.

The science is overwhelmingly against the anti-vaccine kooks. They don't listen because their opinions are based on anti-vaccine ideology, not the science.


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Response to pbmus (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:00 PM

15. it isn't obvious that mercury as part of a preservative is a problem

Why do I say that? If it is in a tightly bound chemical form, it would be safe. But that is a question for a expert chemist.
People may want to consider this analogy: did you hear about the case where a chef was caught using an ingredient made from a poisonous gas in the food he was serving? And he was also caught using another ingredient which is found in many drain cleaners.
Amazingly, he wasn't arrested. What he was using was sodium chloride, which is common table salt.
For the mercury question, I am inclined to go with the recommendations of the chemistry experts. And there is the fact that vaccines, no matter how preserved, have a proven track record of saving thousands of lives.

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Response to flyingfysh (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:05 PM

16. I am not arguing for or against vaccines...

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Response to flyingfysh (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 11, 2018, 09:22 PM

18. Again, mercury was removed from all vaccines in 1999!

All except for multi dose flu vials.

But you are correct on the science. Even when it was included, the dose-response was well below anything that could be considered hazardous, even to infants.

The benefit of vaccines is beyond question. We've rid the world of smallpox and we're close to eliminating it of polio, a disease I knew of in grade school.

Polio scared the shit out of everybody until the vaccine became available. Nobody was anti-vaccine back then. Everybody gladly stood in line to get first the shots, then the sugar cubes. Nobody was screeching about too many vaccines, or about toxins.

Now we're getting close on measles, one of the most contagious diseases of them all. Make sure all your kiddies get their MMR jab, DUers.



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Response to pbmus (Reply #11)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:33 PM

46. Kind of a weird ad hominem attack

His stance on vaccines has exactly what relevance to Cadet Bone Spurs' aides beating their wives?

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Response to hueymahl (Reply #46)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:40 PM

47. Emotions can be weird...thats what I tell my wife anyway...

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Response to longship (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 02:35 AM

27. way to dive bomb a decent thread

Longship ye project too much

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Response to Backwoodsrider (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 06:09 AM

28. Noted.

But I really despise Jim Carrey for his anti-vaccination stance. It has a body count. I see no reason to celebrate him simply because he does not like Drumpf.

Or at least not celebrate him unless one is also aware that he does have this particularly bad position on reality.

I project only that which is necessary here.

Thank you for your response.

My best.

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Response to longship (Reply #28)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:26 PM

39. More accurately, "I project only my narrative which is irrelevant the the OP."

"I project only that which is necessary here..."

More accurately, "I project only my narrative, which in course, is completely irrelevant the the OP."

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #39)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:34 PM

41. The relevance is Jim "anti-vaccine idiot" Carrey. nt

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Response to longship (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:24 PM

38. Who is arguing that accuracy in one subject is equivalent to accuracy in all subjects?

Who is arguing that accuracy in one subject is equivalent to accuracy in all subjects?

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #38)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:31 PM

40. I cannot support Carrey, no matter what he thinks about Drumpf.

Science is very important to me and, I believe, also the world's welfare. When somebody takes such an anti-science position as Carrey, that is unforgivable, as far as I'm concerned.

And vaccines!!!! Why vaccines? It takes all sorts of idiocy to oppose vaccines. Plus, the anti-vaccine kooks are very well organized. One must take a stand against them.

That's why I take this position.

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Response to longship (Reply #40)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:55 PM

43. Heh longship....I dug a little deeper in our vaccine conversation and...

Found out that out of 1 trillion in pharmaceutical annual income that vaccines account for 24 billion in income or 2.4 % ....

Due to low profit margins and high demand....there is a vaccine shortage...and the situation is worsening. There are many reasons to overall our falling apart health care system, this reason is only one.

The article is “Inoculate Against a Global Vaccine Crisis” in January FP

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Response to pbmus (Reply #43)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:17 PM

44. So much for the capitalist goals.

Thanks. I've heard about this before, thanks to Steven Novella of Science-Based Medicine Blog and host of The Skeptic's Guide to the Universe podcast.

It is really tough to fight ideologically driven opinions on the INet. Nevertheless, one must persevere. The science will win out, hopefully.

As always, my friend.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 12:21 PM

30. Toxic environment. Hard to get decent, competent folks to sign on.

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Response to pbmus (Original post)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 03:19 PM

37. "If you want nasty things done, you hire nasty people." That's the crux of Trump's personnel issues.

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Response to Nitram (Reply #37)

Mon Feb 12, 2018, 05:39 PM

45. Excellent tweet...

(I'm staying out of the vaccine discussion)...

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Response to Upthevibe (Reply #45)

Tue Feb 13, 2018, 09:30 AM

48. What vaccine discussion?

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